Respectful Politics Thread (Let's Just See)

dwayne1115

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I've been thinking about it, and the ones who seemed the most oppressed are the LGBT community. I mean they are the ones who are being denied services and just generally mistreated.
 

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I think the most oppressed group isn’t the LGBT people as a whole, it’s specifically the ‘T’s. Trans people are looked upon as scum by many in our society and not treated as decent people so often it’s sickening. Even some LGB people don’t like them. It’s sad.
 

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As I mentioned before, yes, there is too much divisiveness on everything. People can't even agree to disagree.

The one opportunity we can find common ground is to stand for the national anthem to respect those who defended your freedom (even including your freedom not to stand for the anthem).

Do you know what really would've impressed me with Kaepernick? If he came out and said "There's too much injustice in the country today. I can't stand for the anthem. These are my principles, and they're more important than my $40 million contract".

The only celebrity athlete to lay it on the line was Muhammad Ali. In 1967, he protested the Vietnam War and got stripped of his title and spent three years in jail. He sacrificed everything for his principles.

I would love to see ONE celebrity or athlete today make the same kind of sacrifice. But I guess their cushy lifestyle is too much to give up.
 

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Well, to be fair (and actually, I'm not being fair), Alyssa Milano and Rose McGowan are always speaking out against crap Trump does, and both of their careers were so washed up at one point in their lives that they were basically reduced to doing porn.

But you have to remember, Muhammad Ali was from a time where reprecussions for being "anti-American" were much, much more strict, especially during the conservative McCarthy era, where there was actually a Hollywood Blacklist, where show-business people who were suspected to have ties with Communism were forbidden to employed in Hollywood: Mr. Hooper himself was on that list.
 

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But that's a sad choice of a career move "I had to do porn to get by".
Well, after you sell out your values, what do you have left?
 

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Ali went to jail just a little too soon. Six months later, when Walter Cronkite was covering the Tet Offensive, only then did the public opinion turn against Vietnam.
Young people were always against it, since they were the ones being sent to fight.
But after Cronkite concluded "We can't win this war", did the views change in mainstream America.
It still took seven years to pull out of Vietnam, but the seeds were planted. Once public opinion changed, Ali should've been sprung a lot sooner.

But he will always have my respect for the sacrifice he made. And a few years later he became the champ again. Still the greatest ever, in and out of the ring.
 
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