Respectful Politics Thread (Let's Just See)

LittleJerry92

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Sorry...I know NO feminists who do this. I do know a couple with very large chips on their shoulders, but all feminists, myself included, never back down from a fight over sexism. Unless that person was throwing a joke at you about double standards for women, they certainly weren't a diehard feminist.

All the ones I know would utterly kick the *** of anyone attacking them.
No, I know feminism IS intended for equal rights. But I've also seen some who feel the need to abuse it, feeling like just because they're women that automatically gives them a special privilege that you can't hit them back even if they purposely try and attack you.

Yeah, Jerry. For shame!
I'm sorry, did I offer to hear your two cents?

 

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Split your lungs with blood and thunder
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Saw this interesting tweet yesterday and thought it would be of interest here (probably not to those that push forward the narrative that the police have declared open season on unarmed black men).

So far in 2018 there have been 22 "unarmed" people killed by police, many of which had physical altercations with officers. Of the 22, 12 were white, 8 black, 1 hispanic. The data holds for previous years as well, with 2017 having 68 deaths, 30 of which were white, 20 black, 13 hispanic. This isn't data compiled by a pro police group; it's from the Washington Post. While each is undoubtedly a tragedy for their families, they are hardly indicative of an epidemic. But you'd never know it by the disproportionate media coverage some of those deaths receive. Anecdotes aren't facts, but they are magically news when they fit the narrative. Magically not when they don't.
 

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Anecdotes aren't facts, but they are magically news when they fit the narrative. Magically not when they don't.
As I said a few pages back, it works in the opposite direction as well. Statistics show countries with stricter and more thorough gun laws have fewer mass shootings and gun-related deaths; countries with universal healthcare and lower prescription drug costs have healthier people; countries with fewer work hours and better pay have happier people with better work ethic; countries with all of that are generally more thriving and prosperous. These statistics don't fit the narrative of those who don't want to hear it, and always have a legion of but's when presented with them.

But. . . .
- "Gun control infringes on our constitutional right to bear arms!"
- "Universal healthcare would destroy the for-profit healthcare industries, and lower prescription drug costs would destroy the big pharmacutical companies!"
- "We have to keep wages low, otherwise the entire country will run out of money and our economy will collapse!"
- "They're all Socialist ***** countries, and we don't want to be a Socialist ***** country! We're 'Murica!"
 

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Hasn't he claimed to have read the Bible? Which doesn't really mean anything, because there is a verse in the Bible that says the devil also knows the Bible and trimbles.
From my experience, many atheists know the Bible better than most Christians. Also, many atheists (and agnostics, like myself) didn't start out that way. They became disillusioned by many factors. This includes the way that many Bible verses contradict each other. There's also the brutal way that many religious leaders, like the notorious Franklin Graham, treat others - particularly those they perceive to be their enemies. The way he behaves goes directly against the teachings of Jesus Christ, yet he makes millions of dollars in Christ's name. The lack of care that many people of faith treat the poor (many of them are children born into poverty) is absolutely unGodly. It is my belief that one cannot complain about a woman's right to choose while helping to elect people, like Paul Ryan and his brand of Republicans, who are against raising the minimum wage and cut essential social services to the poor that directly makes children starve. I don't believe in the devil, but if he exists at all he's working through people who hide behind the Bible in pursuit of worldly pleasures. It is very harsh for me to say that, but silence from Christians has the identical impact as approval. My entire life, particularly my childhood, I was told to respect these people - and I still do INDIVIDUALLY, but not as a group. A true Christian is one who looks first to their responsibility to God and man and doesn't impose his will on others. I have many people in my life, just like that, of all different faiths. I say all of this because your post is particularly prophetic of what's happening now. The Donald Trump regime is using Jesus' name like branding to achieve whatever they want and I find it distasteful. While I'm not a person of faith, I very much respect the people of faith in my life. I'm not speaking ill of the religion itself - just those who willfully, and with arrogance, let their savior down along with every person of faith who humbly asserts their integrity.
 

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Saw this interesting tweet yesterday and thought it would be of interest here (probably not to those that push forward the narrative that the police have declared open season on unarmed black men).

So far in 2018 there have been 22 "unarmed" people killed by police, many of which had physical altercations with officers. Of the 22, 12 were white, 8 black, 1 hispanic. The data holds for previous years as well, with 2017 having 68 deaths, 30 of which were white, 20 black, 13 hispanic. This isn't data compiled by a pro police group; it's from the Washington Post. While each is undoubtedly a tragedy for their families, they are hardly indicative of an epidemic. But you'd never know it by the disproportionate media coverage some of those deaths receive. Anecdotes aren't facts, but they are magically news when they fit the narrative. Magically not when they don't.
The fact is, considering the percentage of black population in America - they are disproportionately targeted by officers than any other race. Trying to prove otherwise perpetuates the inherent bias that African Americans have faced since their ancestors arrived here in slave ships and were considered 3/5ths of a human. Freedom for them, from equal employment to equal justice under the law, is an ongoing struggle. Another fact that revealed in the last election cycle (something that Trump did not invent, yet continues to harness) is that racism never went away. It just learned to whisper. Racists come in all shapes. One of those is cops and our justice system. Not all cops are bad. Most of them live dangerous, low paid, thankless lives of public service. They also have much control over the lives of others that's been largely unchecked. BLM and other movements are now in the process of exposing that and trying to change it. My feeling is that if you were a person of color, you'd stop tying to prove this point. You'd know the fear of being stopped by a peace officer. And that is what they're supposed to be. Peace officers. That also comes with a heavy price. This VERY MUCH is an epidemic. Not every infraction ends in death either. Many people of color are locked away for the majority of their lives due to systemic racism that weighs harder on them than white people.
 
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