Countdown on Dateline

[Lynnette]

Hi ho!

I saw this on the NBC Website tonight at http://www.msnbc.com/news/dateline_front.asp?cp1=1.

This is about an upcoming Dateline show:
SUNDAY, JULY 20
7:00 P.M. ET - Two-hour show
From Miss Piggy to Jim Carrey to Jimmy Hendrix, VH1 is counting down the 200 Greatest Pop Culture Icons of all time and ”Dateline NBC” has the sneak peak at who’s ranked #1. Dawn Fratangelo reports.

Don't know the final results but VH1 has Kermit and Miss Piggy listed together on their Web site.

 

[sarah_yzma]

ooh sounds good! I can't wait!

 

[BoyRaisin2]

WARNING: This is a spoiler. This press release has the complete list if you want to cheat. Close your eyes if you don't.


The 200 Greatest Pop Culture Icons Complete Ranked List



The complete schedule for VH1's "200 Greatest Pop Culture Icons:"

Monday, 7/21 9:00 pm # 200-181

10:00 p.m. # 180-161

Tuesday, 7/22 9:00 p.m. # 160-141

10:00 p.m. # 140-121

Wednesday, 7/23 9:00 p.m. # 120-101

10:00 p.m. # 100-81

Thursday, 7/24 9:00 p.m. # 80-61

10:00 p.m. # 60-41

Friday, 7/25 9:00 p.m. # 40-21

10:00 p.m. # 20-1

Viewers can go online to VH1.com http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/the-greatest/68029/episode.jhtml for more on Pop Icons.

VH1's "200 Greatest Pop Culture Icons" is a production of VH1. Executive Producers, Robert Weiss and Michelle Mahoney.

VH1 produces and programs a wide variety of music-based series, specials, live events and acquisition-based programming that keep viewers in touch with the music they love. VH1 is a registered trademark of MTV Networks, a unit of Viacom Inc. MTV Networks owns and operates the cable television programming services MTV: Music Television, MTV 2: Music Television, Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite, TV Land and VH1 as well as The Suite from MTV Networks, a package of ten digital services, all of which are trademarks of MTV Networks. MTV Networks also has joint ventures, licensing agreements and syndication deals whereby its programming can be seen worldwide.

200 Greatest Pop Culture Icons

Ranked List

1) OPRAH WINFREY

2) SUPERMAN

3) ELVIS PRESLEY

4) LUCILLE BALL

5) TOM CRUISE

6) MARILYN MONROE

7) MADONNA

8) MICHAEL JORDAN

9) PRINCESS DIANA

10) MICHAEL JACKSON

11) FRIENDS CAST

12) THE BEATLES

13) JERRY SEINFELD

14) STEVEN SPIELBERG

15) JENNIFER LOPEZ

16) MUHAMMAD ALI

17) MICKEY MOUSE

18) BILL CLINTON

19) THE BRADY BUNCH

20) BRITNEY SPEARS

21) THE SIMPSONS

22) TOM HANKS

23) JULIA ROBERTS

24) JFK JR.

25) ROLLING STONES

26) JAMES DEAN

27) FRANK SINATRA

28) JOHN TRAVOLTA

29) MARY TYLER MOORE

30) BILL COSBY

31) EMINEM

32) JFK

33) GEORGE CLOONEY

34) AUDREY HEPBURN

35) P. DIDDY

36) JOHNNY CARSON

37) KURT COBAIN

38) BRAD PITT

39) KATIE COURIC

40) THE OSBOURNES

41) CHER

42) FRED FLINTSTONE

43) MARTHA STEWART

44) MICHAEL J. FOX

45) BEE GEES

46) HARRISON FORD

47) JACKIE O.

48) JIM CARREY

49) ELIZABETH TAYLOR

50) JAMES BROWN

51) TIGER WOODS

52) ROBERT DE NIRO

53) JERRY GARCIA

54) JOHN WAYNE

55) ELTON JOHN

56) CARROLL O'CONNOR (AS ARCHIE BUNKER)

57) NICOLE KIDMAN

58) MAGIC JOHNSON

59) LEONARDO DICAPRIO

60) KERMIT & MISS PIGGY

61) MIKE MYERS

62) ANDY WARHOL

63) MEL GIBSON

64) CELINE DION

65) JACKIE ROBINSON

66) BARBRA STREISAND

67) HOWARD STERN

68) BOB DYLAN

69) DENZEL WASHINGTON

70) CAROL BURNETT

71) RUN-D.M.C.

72) JAY LENO

73) BONO

74) SUSAN LUCCI

75) JOHN BELUSHI

76) BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN

77) BUGS BUNNY

78) ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER

79) ROBIN WILLIAMS

80) PAMELA ANDERSON

81) JACK NICHOLSON

82) BILL GATES

83) AEROSMITH

84) KATHARINE HEPBURN

85) EDDIE MURPHY

86) PAUL NEWMAN

87) GRACE KELLY

88) JOHNNY CASH

89) BARBARA WALTERS

90) CLINT EASTWOOD

91) MARVIN GAYE

92) AL PACINO

93) KISS

94) PENNY MARSHALL (AS LAVERNE DEFAZIO)

95) VIVIEN LEIGH & CLARK GABLE (AS SCARLETT O'HARA/RHETT BUTLER)

96) WAYNE GRETZKY

97) STEPHEN KING

98) SHANIA TWAIN

99) HENRY WINKLER (AS THE FONZ)

100) WILL SMITH

101) KEVIN BACON

102) DAVID LETTERMAN

103) ARETHA FRANKLIN

104) CHARLIE BROWN

105) RICHARD PRYOR

106) JOE DIMAGGIO

107) STING

108) ALBERT EINSTEIN

109) JIMI HENDRIX

110) BETTE DAVIS

111) RUDY GIULIANI

112) JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE

113) ALFRED HITCHCOCK

114) CINDY CRAWFORD

115) SYLVESTER STALLONE

116) WHITNEY HOUSTON

117) WILLIAM SHATNER

118) E.T.

119) BEN AFFLECK

120) SARAH JESSICA PARKER

121) BRUCE WILLIS

122) BOB DENVER (AS GILLIGAN)

123) JANE FONDA

124) SIGMUND FREUD

125) STEVIE WONDER

126) CHARLIE CHAPLIN

127) TINA TURNER

128) JUDY GARLAND

129) DOROTHY HAMILL

130) DICK CLARK

131) CALVIN KLEIN

132) LED ZEPPELIN

133) JULIE ANDREWS

134) JANET JACKSON

135) WHOOPI GOLDBERG

136) BABE RUTH

137) PRINCE

138) HUGH HEFNER

139) MOLLY RINGWALD

140) JAMES GANDOLFINI (AS TONY SOPRANO)

141) BRUCE LEE

142) GWEN STEFANI

143) RON HOWARD

144) ELLEN DEGENERES

145) DICK VAN DYKE

146) NEIL ARMSTRONG

147) DAVID BOWIE

148) MISTER ROGERS

149) SALLY FIELD

150) GARTH BROOKS

151) SPIDER-MAN

152) BOB HOPE

153) BON JOVI

154) HARRY POTTER

155) CHRISTIE BRINKLEY

156) VENUS/SERENA WILLIAMS

157) BARBARA EDEN (AS JEANNIE)

158) BATMAN

159) RICKY MARTIN

160) FARRAH FAWCETT

161) MONICA LEWINSKY

162) LEONARD NIMOY (AS SPOCK)

163) LIBERACE

164) BURT REYNOLDS

165) DIANA ROSS

166) BETTY FORD

167) THE THREE STOOGES

168) ABBA

169) WOODY ALLEN

170) JIM MORRISON

171) SCOOBY-DOO

172) GIANNI VERSACE

173) ROSEANNE

174) TUPAC SHAKUR

175) JACKIE GLEASON

176) WONDER WOMAN

177) MARIAH CAREY

178) DREW BARRYMORE

179) CHRIS ROCK

180) LARRY HAGMAN (AS J.R. EWING)

181) REESE WITHERSPOON

182) TELLY SAVALAS (AS KOJAK)

183) WINONA RYDER

184) BOB MARLEY

185) ROSIE O'DONNELL

186) HALLE BERRY

187) ROCK HUDSON

188) JOE NAMATH

189) DOLLY PARTON

190) RUSSELL CROWE

191) REGIS PHILBIN

192) BEAVIS & BUTT-HEAD

193) ARSENIO HALL

194) DR. PHIL

195) MACAULAY CULKIN

196) AXL ROSE

197) JUDGE JUDY

198) CARTMAN

199) QUEEN LATIFAH

200) THE ROCK

SOURCE VH1

CO: VH1

ST: New York

SU:

Web site: http://www.vh1.com

http://www.prnewswire.com

07/21/2003 12:15 EDT

 

[frogboy4]

My post is filled with spoiler information pertaining to the list.

Lists like this come around every so often to remind us of just how brain dead television writers can be. Britney Spears beats the Simpsons. I'm not a huge fan of either, but when Britney has been succuessful for well over a decade and still going strong, we'll talk about her edging out the Simpsons. That is utter bull. JFK JR beats out his father on the list? That makes no sense. This is the "trendy list of celebs" not the top pop icons of all time. Jennifer Lopez is a more widely seen and popular figure than Mickey Mouse? Come on. Sure, she should be listed somewhere, but not above the world's most famous cartoon character. I think these lists are just intended to shock.

The biggest surprise is Oprah at number one. Sure, she's a great women's role model, but the other half of the population couldn't care less. She's not number one. Heck, Lady Di, Madonna and Jerry Seinfeld have more pull with pop culture. If this list had come out two years ago, Rosie would have been number one. I just don't get these lists.

Kermit and Piggy at 60 (and no Sesame Street characters mentioned) is the ultimate insult. Big Bird has much more clout than Dr. Phil. If it were three years ago, his space would have been filled by Judge Judy, but where is she now?

 

[sarah_yzma]

I agree...this is more of a who's in right now than who have been a bigger influence....it's a shame that it's that way, too!

 

[BoyRaisin2]

Kermit and Piggy at 60 (and no Sesame Street characters mentioned) is the ultimate insult. Big Bird has much more clout than Dr. Phil. If it were three years ago, his space would have been filled by Judge Judy, but where is she now?

Well, the two top Muppets at #60 as opposed to #160 is pretty good in my opinion, so I think it's fair. As for Dr. Phil, maybe in a few years he'll be an icon, but not yet. Heck, you might as well put Simon Cowell on there. They on the verge, but not quite!

And Oprah at #1. Hmm, I don't think so. She is an admirable success story, but come on. I would have expected Mickey, Elvis, even Michael Jackson or the Beatles, but Oprah? I don't know.

That aside, I still think it's a cool list. And look at it this way: Try to figure out how many of these stars has co-starred, or at best, taken a photo with a Muppet (or a Creature)? C'mon go ahead.

 

[frogboy4]

The title of this listing makes it appear like these are all enduring icons. I don't think Dr Phil (or even Britney Spears) is really an enduring icon. She'll be seen as a Debbie Gibson ten years from now. Superman, the Flintstones, Big Bird, Madonna and the Beatles are all icons that will be with us decades to come. Simon Cowell will be forgotten in a few seasons. With this sort of criteria they should list the entire cast of the Love Boat.

I really am offended that they left out Sesame Characters and Jim Henson. Heck, Walt Disney's not even listed! I suppose Kermit and Piggy represent Henson and all of his creations just as Mickey represents all of Disney, but I still think that's wrong.

 

[BoyRaisin2]

My 700th message:

Well if it's any consellation, I've seen Muppets during the profiles of Dolly Parton, Garth Brooks, Barbara Walters, and even Pamela Anderson! Guess which Muppet was on THAT one.

 

[Sam T Eagle]

you also think they would have mentioned star wars, kenny rogers, & mr.rogers on them

 

[frogboy4]

Mister Rogers is listed at number 148. I'm not so sure about Kenny Rogers (I'd definitely put him in the top 500 list), but Star Wars should have definitely been represented. This list is about icons and not about influencial people or films, but Yoda could easily be the representitive icon for Star Wars. Wayne Gretzky and Judge Judy make the list, but no Yoda? It just doesn't make sense. This particular oversight demonstrates how meaningless these listings really are. It's just meant to sell ad space and magazines. Still, they are fun to read.