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Discussion in 'Puppet News' started by robinthecrow, Aug 31, 2004.

  1. robinthecrow

    robinthecrow New Member

    I'll look into that Fozzie.

    I have a question (saves making *another* thread for this already busy forum); for adding eyes and features to furred creatures, should I just stick to the fur direct, or cut the fur down to the backing and then stick? Or just cut all the way through the fur and backing and effectively glue the feature to the foam?
  2. This may nt be true for everyone, but through my experiences I've found that sewing on features works best because it can provide the tightest connection. Bolting objects on and using wing-nuts on the other side is another option I like to use. But of everything on the list you suggested, I'd vote for sheering the fur as short as possible to clue the object to the most stable surface area.
  3. ravagefrackle

    ravagefrackle New Member

    well your getting there, might i suggest that when working with short pile fur you sew by hand, it helps avoid that hard seem also it looks like your covering is a little to big, you dont need to make it so much larger than your foam understructure, the skin pattern should only be about an 1/8 of an inch larger around the edge , and maybe a bit larger in the lip area

    neatness counts

    good luck
  4. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Active Member

    Not sure if this helps answer the question or not, but I generally sew rather than glue features on. This has a number of advantages including the fact that it's not permanent and can be adjusted or changed later on.

    Just a quick tip - you should always cut the backing of fur, but not the fur itself. ;)
  5. robinthecrow

    robinthecrow New Member

    October 20th (well it is here)

    Latest *puppet* update; continued to experiment with fun fur and possibly putting together a fan rep of Trekkie Monster (because I just love him!) but something more significant has become of some fur I purchased last week. After around 30 minutes of cutting and hot-glueing(!) I managed to put together the head for a character which I am naming "Jez"

    Check the head as it is right now and the concept drawing here: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/maxwood/puppets/Jez.jpg

    I had given a body a go but I seem to be having trouble with that. I need to sit him on a post and experiment alittle... now where did I put those pins....?
  6. Very Nice! I like the puppet even better than the sketch (which is, of course, what we aim for!)

    10+

    Where'd you get the long red fur?
  7. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    Jez is cool!! I like it! Maybe you can make the mouth interior a different color so it doesn't blend so well? Way nice work!
  8. robinthecrow

    robinthecrow New Member

    Jez was sort of an improvisation on a head I had made. I had the foam head, then added the foam mouth piece with the wondeful strength of cardboard (ha!) and then the idea of Jez came along. So the fur got added to it. So it was a bit late by the time I added the fur to change the colour of the mouth, ah well, nevermind.

    As for sewing on features mentioned in previous posts, the nose is sewed on, as too will the sunglasses when I decide whether I want to use them or not... though looking out the window we aren't going to get any decent weather soon anyway.

    Cheers for the feedback guys! Jez is currently on his way to getting a body. Leather jacket anyone? ;-)
  9. Iokitek

    Iokitek New Member

    Sorry can't help you there :) I love those sunglasses on him though. If you could you should try to leave them on.
  10. Show and Tell

    Show and Tell Member

    Absolutely incredible! Great imagination ya got there. He needs a sax :cool:
  11. robinthecrow

    robinthecrow New Member

    Lol. He does doesn't he.

    Well another update for Jez, he now has a body and arms and some clothes! Not quite sticking to the concept picture (since I haven't quite worked out how I'm going to make a leather jacket) he is now wearing a smaller size top of the uniform I have to wear where I work... don't ask

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/maxwood/puppets/jezfunfactory.jpg

    David.
  12. robinthecrow

    robinthecrow New Member

    Jez has been getting positive responses, especially from friends and my work colleages (yes I brought him into work!)

    "Where did you get him?"

    "I made him"

    [Astonished]"You made him?!"

    David.
  13. Iokitek

    Iokitek New Member

    He looks cool :) the uniform suits him well
  14. robinthecrow

    robinthecrow New Member

    Update: Jez will be getting legs, after a failed attempt to make some long furry red arms for myself, I sewed them too tight, so they will be good and long enough for Jez's legs. Pictures soon.

    On another note, can anyone tell me what Fozzie the Bear is made out of? The fur that is. I can't seem to find any suppliers of that type of fur. The Hoobs are made of the same fur (I think) and I can't find any anywhere!

    Help! :-p
  15. robinthecrow

    robinthecrow New Member

  16. ravagefrackle

    ravagefrackle New Member


    you wont find fozzie bear fur any wear , the stuff the original was made out of , and all the current fozzies as well.was made in the 1970's, they do not make it any more, all though if you had a sample of the fabric you could contact a fabric mill that makes fake fur , and ask them to make some for you , they usually have a minimum order in the area of 15,000 yards , (yes you read that right)its very expensive and can take many weeks to get your order,

    so i think u are better off searching the web for similar styles of fur that you might be able to order.


    oh and the hoobs are not made from the same stuff, it was a long pile fake fur that was white ,that was then dyed the colors that you saw.

    that fur is avalible but it starts off straight and fluffy , it gets that curly texture when it is being dyed,it was just left unrestored
  17. robinthecrow

    robinthecrow New Member

    Update: December 1st 2004

    Right, well, after a long time of buying materials, doing test heads and cutting fur, I have finally finished (well last Tuesday I finished) a "portrait puppet" of my boss, Sean.

    This is my first puppet involving antron fleece, which I am getting quite good at sewing, the very last sew on the head skin just happen to look the most invisible! And this is my first go at a human.

    Unfortunately the dyeing of the fleece didnt happen as planned. I left it with mum to do, since I am awful at using the washing machine, and I wasnt entirely sure if Antron does well in the washing machine... well... for future reference... it doesnt.

    I wanted a more browny skin colour, but instead I got a large bit of pink fleece with brown marks everywhere... luckily I had enough clean pink fleece to use for Sean's skin.

    Keeping in mind it was the Boss's birthday Tuesday and I was doing this as a last minute thing. The fleece got dyed on Sunday night. So I rushed with trying to learn to sew fleece and get the head right.

    I managed to pin the features on and it looked great (there are pics for this I may or may not post) but when it came to sewing the features on... I couldn't get the nose straight!!! So to me it looks awfully wonky... but no one noticed...

    Here are the pictures, in general construction order,

    The naked head with test eyes and eyebrows;
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/maxwood/puppets/sean01.jpg

    The semi finished article, looks like he could live on Avenue Q;
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/maxwood/puppets/sean02.jpg

    And guess which one is the muppet... puppet and puppet maker;
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/maxwood/puppets/SeanDavid.jpg

    Lemme know what you think. I'll try and get a more adequate picture of the Boss and the Puppet together for comparison. I'm told they look alike, but I'm not convinced!

    David.
  18. robinthecrow

    robinthecrow New Member

  19. robinthecrow

    robinthecrow New Member

    Has anyone any idea how to fashion hair styles with fur? ala Rod from Avenue Q or any other muppet/puppet with fashioned hair?

    I've tried use the end of my hot glue gun to heat the hair up to fashion but I end up with hair ends on my gun.

    Any ideas?
  20. robinthecrow

    robinthecrow New Member

    Right after a very long time and many holes in fingers I've finally managed to finish the "Sean" puppet... the rod isn't exactly attached to him properly since I had sew up the antron fleece on his hands before I managed to get something in there to attach a rod too - so its temporary right now.

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/maxwood/puppets/sean001.jpg

    And here it is again but with me behind... its not really that big compared to me... its just closer to frame.

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/maxwood/puppets/sean002.jpg

    What do people think?

    David.


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