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A Muppeteer Movie

Discussion in 'Henson People' started by Fraggline, Mar 17, 2012.

  1. Fraggline Active Member

    Bingboingcutie and I have been brainstorming a bit, and we have this idea for a movie that chronicles the careers of the Muppet performers somewhat. It would pass quickly through Jim Henson's start as a puppeteer, and the plot would move through the growth of the performers and how Jim taught them to shine, each in their own way (e.g., when he encouraged Dave Goelz to keep making Gonzo's "no" louder and when he cast Karen Prell as Red instead of Mokey because, as she said it, he could see potential in her). The middle of the movie would be when Jim dies, and now the Muppeteers don't know how to carry on without their leader; such as, for Steve Whitmire, he has to take on the role of Kermit, a character with such a legacy. It would end with them filming The Muppets Celebrate Jim Henson, and they realize that they can use what they've learned about themselves and the Muppets to keep them alive for future generations.

    So what do you guys think? Any title ideas? Could it maybe get off the ground?
  2. Collgoff Well-Known Member

    I think that's a great idea!
    Not only that, how about we put some muppets in it?
    Well I always inmagen a movie of Jim Henson with Actors and actresses playing those people and have some muppets in it.
  3. MrBloogarFoobly Well-Known Member

    "Green Men"
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  4. Collgoff Well-Known Member

    There is already a green man!
    You know the incredable honk!
  5. Fraggline Active Member

    Cool! Yeah, how can we NOT have a Henson movie without Muppets?
    Bingboingcutie had this great idea for a scene right after Jim Henson's death where Frank Oz questions where the team's going to go next, and he absent-mindedly picks up the Fozzie puppet and starts discussing things with him. But we'll still need more Muppets than just that one scene.
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  6. Collgoff Well-Known Member

    That's right if the Muppets are living Beenes in that movie we have to carefule with the things that is real and that is not.

    But Frank Oz stop doing the muppets to go off to direct but he still dose his charaters on Sesame street.
  7. Fraggline Active Member

    Oh, yeah. I hadn't thought of that. It's kind of like in The Muppets--Walter is a Muppet fan, but I bet he doesn't know everything there is to know about the Muppet performers for obvious reasons. ;)
    Hmm...maybe the Muppets wouldn't really be living beings, but Frank Oz (at least in 1990, when he was doing the Muppets) could sort of have a conversation with himself--he could be imagining that Fozzie were really talking to him. But if that scene's too complicated, it might just be best to leave it out.

    ...I'm talking as if I really thought we could make this movie, aren't I?
  8. Collgoff Well-Known Member

    Well that would be hard for that to do it.
    So why the beginging of that would be simller to the first muppet movie's opening?
  9. Fraggline Active Member

    Yeah, maybe it's best just to leave it out. And what do you mean by the Muppet Movie?
  10. Collgoff Well-Known Member

    What is really similar to the opening of the muppet movie is wheare we got a lot of muppets, people, Fraggles, Muppet dogs and the gang from Sesame Street in a big screen room.
    Wheare Kermit introduced everyone too the Jim Henson movie and one the Henson kids tell them what will happen in the movie a little bit and paso about their father Jim Henson.

    Pluse some of them that never met Jim ask some questions about him and Kremit tells them some facts about him.
  11. Fraggline Active Member

    Those are really good ideas! Especially the opening--that would be great if one of the Henson kids could talk about it a bit. It reminds me of a documentary a bit, and having Kermit in a documentary would be perfect.
  12. Collgoff Well-Known Member

    Good I'm glad you like it!
  13. beakerboy12 Well-Known Member

    I like this idea a lot! Though, I don't think this idea is the best for a documentary. I'm thinking more like a biopic where actors play the Muppeteers and the Muppets wouldn't appear as living beings. I love that Frank Oz talking with Fozzie thing. I think it would work better, actually, if he was doing all this worrying as Fozzie and breaking out the puppet and voice to do the signature "Oh my! What are we gonna do?!"-kinda thing. But I do think there could be a scene where we see the Muppeteers going on set and performing a scene like from the Muppet Show. We would see the scene from the camera viewpoint where we wouldn't see the performers and the backstage viewpoint where we would. And Steve and Eric and all the other real-life Muppeteers would provide the characters' voices while the actors portrayed the Muppeteers... uh... is this a little too confusing. I love the ending, it could stop right after Kermit speaks for the first time in The Muppets Celebrate Jim Henson.

    While it should probably heavily focus on Jim and his legacy. It could also feature smaller plots or sub-plots with the other Muppeteers (Frank, Dave, Caroll, Kevin) getting picked and discovered. We could also see a little bit to their backstories too. We already know Kevin's now that Being Elmo is out.

    As for the title, maybe it should be called Behind the Frog or Fleece and Foam. I don't know, this is just my... wow... my really long take on this! Great idea!
  14. Collgoff Well-Known Member

    Well that's nice but that sounds really confusing!
  15. beakerboy12 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, that was just my take on it. The gist of it (I think that's how you spell that) is that actors would play the Muppeteers and Muppets wouldn't be real beings, it would be from a real-life standpoint, I guess.
  16. Collgoff Well-Known Member

    That's all right you don't have to worry about that would be a mixer of that kind of film you had said and a muppet movie.
  17. dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    if your realy serious about that you have to have a solid ideha first off then you would need to make a pitch. You would have to start with the Henson's they would be your key to getting anything like that off and running. I would try contacting the Jim Henson legacy they would be your foot in the door. Secondly you would need to pitch the idea to Disney and that might be a tough sell depending on the direction they are going to take after the new movie. If you get Henson and Disney to follow then I don't think it would take much to get Sesmae involved. The last thing you would need to do is find a good director for the film. (not Frank Oz) someone who is passionit not only about the Muppets but someone who cares about the people prefroming the Muppets as well.
  18. Collgoff Well-Known Member

    What do you mean by that?:excited:
  19. beakerboy12 Well-Known Member

    I think he means you'd need to get everyone's permission for the characters and get a good director who's passionate about Muppets and Jim Henson. I think that'd be the perfect way to begin. For a director, maybe you could go with Kevin Clash, Brian Henson, or one of the writers of the Jim Henson biography books. Someone like that.
  20. Collgoff Well-Known Member

    Well I do give them repect on it; so you're saying that if somebody directes that movie that has be someone who knows Jim Henson and the muppets so well then anyone else that we know.

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