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ABC officially cancels "The Muppets"

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by JimAndFrank, May 12, 2016.

  1. scooterfan360

    scooterfan360 Well-Known Member

    wow, abc has really gone down toilet .
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  2. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    You had some points, but not all modern shows are trying to realistic and believable. But, then I don't get your love of Seinfeld. You do not like sexual material on television and you are not a fan of shows being real, that's two major things that Seinfeld had. Anyways, I highly doubt this show does well, because as you said it reaches out to young women demographic, but that's about it, I guarentee it'll be cancelled.
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I never said I dislike when shows are real, I'm just pointing out that's the difference between shows then and now, realism is more a key factor now than it was then.

    As for SEINFELD, at least that show had more going for it beyond the sexual content: the underlying theme of how a comedian gets his material. And, it wasn't always that realistic - in fact, that's been a complaint about the last two seasons (which I don't mind at all), that the show became increasingly absurd and far-fetched. And back then, shows weren't necessarily as "in-your-face" with the sexual content as they are now, and it wasn't something that almost all shows went out of their way to use as the selling point of the show. In the case of SEINFELD, the show was sold on the notion that it was, "a show about nothing," (though, again, the underlying theme was how a comedian gets his material); but then you look at a show like THE BIG BANG THEORY, and the show's tagline was, "Smart is the new sexy."
  4. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Oh, okay, for Seinfeld, season 8 was fine, but season 9 was awful, it just got cartoony and bizarre to a point where I had to question if I was watching Nickelodean or something, I'm glad they ended it when they did. It's not the fact that it wasn't realistic, but more the fact that it betrayed the tone of the series, if it had started cartoony and then gotten more realistic towards the end, I would have not liked the realistic season. Also, I can agree on Big Bang Theory, that show is beyond awful along with most of CBS sitcoms and laugh track comedies these days. I don't really mind the sexual content in shows as long as isn't the main topic a lot.
  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I feel the same way about M*A*S*H. It started out as a sitcom, and it gradually invoked more dramatic undertones - that wasn't so bad, because it was war, and the very early seasons could be a tad too silly, slapstick, and broad at times. It wasn't until Season 8 of that show that it suddenly shifted completely to a drama with (barely) comedic undertones, and became a dark and preachy show; I don't like those last few seasons at all.
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  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Compared to NBC and CBS's sitcoms for the most part (Life in Pieces is actually quite good, and Big Bang's okay if you like Big Bang), ABC's still the cream of the crop.

    Just making a couple obvious programs that aren't that interesting compared to their current line up.

    While I like the idea of a show about a housewife struggling with weight, they kinda did a better job with the obvious one from the 90's with the obvious comedianne, and CBS did a better job with Mike and Molly by having actual heavy people on it. I just don't get it. If the actress was any bigger they'd be all "ooh, that poor disgusting woman" and she'd get a TLC exploitation show. But just normal looking enough and it's "You go, girl."

    And you totally know some thinspirational nutjob's still gonna whine about it.

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    I am thinking Netflix is the way to go!
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  8. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Why bring this up and focus on the negative? The Muppets just scored some major popularity points last Sunday with the band's concert. It may not lead them into a new Tv series, but one thing is definitely for sure: The Electric Mayhem are HOT! Which also means the Muppets themselves are still hot as well.
    Was the cancellation of the show sad? Yes, but they now have a better and more huge surge then when the show was in the planning stages. So lets focus on the positive,beacause the Muppets are not going anywhere!
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  9. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Bumping this up because I watched the finale and kind of want to give my thoughts on its cancellation.

    Honestly, I can see why some people didn't like this show - it pretty much had The Office humor to it but with Muppets.

    I personally found the series funny - I thought it gave a nice new direction for the Muppets while also not feeling forced. I really wish it continued, because I feel like the cancellation was just uncalled for.
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  10. Old Thunder

    Old Thunder Well-Known Member

    It was a pretty great show that got better as it progressed. I wish it didn't end.
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  11. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member


    Couldn't have said it any better!
  12. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Kermit and Piggy's relationship simply did not work for me.
  13. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    I can understand that.

    Honestly, in the Henson days, I saw them as nothing more than tounge and cheek humor. But by the time Disney took over and as the years went on, it's like the actually tried experimenting with them and didn't know how to make them continue.
  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, it's like Frank has said: Disney may really like the Muppets, and may want to do things with them, they just don't know what to do with them, let alone really understand them.
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  15. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Which is highly frustrating for me, because yes I know they are "puppets" but I genuinely care about there relationships.
  16. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    It just shows they're good characters at the end of the day.
  17. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    They are, and what I have found is that Frank's characters are the ones who have suffered the most in the Disny era. Even with Kermit getting a new performer.
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  18. DarthGonzo

    DarthGonzo Well-Known Member

    Almost nothing about this show worked. It was practically DOA. Crazy it’s been three years since it premiered.
  19. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    There were a number of factors that I think made it quasi-doomed from the start.

    The main thing was that it was an entirely rushed affair. The pilot was done extremely quickly, it seems, so they didn't have much of a hold on what they actually wanted to do. And they pitched it for Fall 2016 instead.

    I think it all could've worked more if they didn't commit so fully to the realism aspect of it all and had more fun with stuff.

    But, honestly, it was probably the best full-length thing (web videos excluded) they've done since MCC (the two recent movies are fine, but they're also sloppy messes of plotting and editing).
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    What about MTI?
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