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Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by JimAndFrank, May 12, 2016.
Exactly! If nobody else will keep the Muppets alive, we at least can.
With it being just a couple days before my birthday, I had so hoped this wouldn't happen. No better news just before your birthday than to hear The Muppets will remain on TV for another season IMO...
I'm devastated. I'm heartbroken. Absolutely heartbroken. I've so been loving this show and it was so great to have a new episode of Muppets on TV every week. Yes, the show had some problems but what show doesn't have problems in it's first season?!?!
This show had so many wonderful things - the amazing puppetry and acting by the Muppet Performers, the writing only got stronger as the season progressed IMO and it was also wonderful to see characters like Scooter, Uncle Deadly and Yolanda shine and get so much attention for the first time. So many people put their heart and soul into this show and it clearly showed.
So many things I loved about this show. It gave me so much joy and I loved watching every minute. I'm so sad we won't get another season of this wonderful show! I really am!
Just because a show is done doesn't mean the Muppet's are dead. Far from it. The ones closest to the characters and material, and those of us who watch and read and make art and stories inspired by said characters, the legacy will live on. Just like there will be another sunrise, there will be another Muppet project.
Not to be a wet blanket, but what good will that do, it didn't work with #RenewTheMuppets and social media and sharing videos will not help for any TV show's or franchise's fate. The film and TV industry is a business, that's the bottom line, they will never listen to the fans if it's not making them money.
Oh well. On one hand, I think it was a huge achievement that the show got to air in the first place, coming off the lack of success of Muppets Most Wanted. To see how the news about the show came out of nowhere and then all of a sudden turn into reality was exciting. The show had its faults, and I'm sure they will be rehashed endlessly on here for months to come, but it also had some excellent parts too. In the end, what I think hurt the show was that it tried to do too much at once and didn't have enough time for development. It was entertaining scenes in search of a larger whole.
PS: ABC is canceling everything. Nashville, Agent Carter, Castle, The Catch, and I think The Family.
Rachel Herrick mentioned hearing "a rumor or two" about Netflix picking up the series. I don't really know if that is indeed a "rumor" or the "what if" scenario the fans have been talking about.
Let me rephrase that - the Muppets aren't dead. They never will be. It just doesn't look like we'll be getting anything major from Disney in he near future, considering how the last few projects have gone over.
But as you and I have both said, we the fans can keep the Muppets alive in the meantime.
Canceled: The Muppets, Agent Carter, Galavant, The Family, Nashville, Castle
Renewed: The Real O Neals, American Crime, The Catch
Also Grandfathered got cancelled, which should make DrTooth happy, as well as some other FOX comedies, The Grinder, Cooper Barrett, and Bordertown. Still awaiting a desicion is Dr. Ken and Last Man Standing.
The point is to keep the characters fresh in everyone's minds. If that means we have to play the nostalgia card for the 3 billionth time, then that's just gonna have to happen.
Why hasn't such a beloved and well known franchise gotten the same attention as other cult fanbases like say, several classic animated shows. The Muppets have a lot of history, a lot of Muppet TV shows have been created over the years such as Sesame Street, Bear in the Big Blue House, The Animal Show, Fraggle Rock, The Muppet Show. So why isn't the fanbase much bigger?
Also, Dr. Ken and Last Man Standing had better get the axe. If a good show like The Muppets goes to waste, than awful shows like those should go down with it.
Not happy it got cancelled at all! The show was a lot better than most shows nowadays. Sure it got off to a rocky start, but it soon hit its stride and it became a good show. We'll see if Netflix picks it up or not. ABC is making a huge mistake!
Maybe it has to do with the fact that many of the shows created are products of their time. We love watching them but, to be honest, many of them have a quality to them all their own and we know what decade and time period they come from. Maybe they are too topical for their own good? Granted TMS was not canceled, Jim and co. from what I remember wanted to stop before it got stale. Fraggle Rock tied things up with a pretty bow, and as we all know SST has changed DRASTICALLY.
1970's - TMS, very similar to other variety shows (Saturday Night Live, Carol Burnett, Laugh In). Seems most new Muppet shows end up being compared to this (and rightfully so. it seemed to be when the muppets were truly in their element and in their prime.)
1980's - JHH, didn't really get a chance by NBC (seem familiar)? Seemed to play to the "Wonderful World of Disney", with a more updated "grungy" "techy" update of TMS. This show deserved more episodes.
1990's - MT, again didn't get much of a chance but lasted longer than either JHH or TM'15. Found a home on Disney Channel where it lasted a bit longer. Very dramatic and more, sitcom like than it's predecessors I feel. Spent more time backstage and behind the scenes than onstage during TMS. Funny enough I have no idea what to compare this one too.
2000's - No series but got a few Made for TV movies, which again were sort of specials, sort of Wonderful World of Disney ish? A lot of Made for TV movies seemed to come out of this era so I think it spoke to what networks were looking for at the time.
2010's - TM'2015 - Canceled too soon but had a lot of support from fans and a lot of promotion. and to be fair, from the look of it, ABC seems to be doing a total wipe out of just about EVERYTHING save for the shows mentioned above. Comparisons were made to the Office but many shows now have that handicam / mockumentary look to them.
What i'm trying to say is, we can look back at these years later, and know where they're coming from. We can understand what their referencing. Each time they've managed to take the material around them, and appropriate it. The Muppets are very good at that. However for some reason not since TMM has there been a long running show with these characters. Not saying there will never be again.
I guess Disney will have to sell the Muppets, because Disney and ABC suck at giving them a chance. Screw you, ABC!
I guess, but it just doesn't seem to work, The Muppets played the nostalgia card and got 9 million viewers, only 2 million stayed by the end. I don't think the muppets will ever get a chance at TV sadly, and it sucks because everything was in their cards this time unlike JHH and MT. Maybe we'll see a new muppet show in 20 years or something.
We were excited though. The Muppets and the performers and crew got a chance to collaborate and work together in front of the camera again. They got to make millions of people happy, even if only for a while. Wasn't that Kermit's goal at the end of TMM? I have a feeling this show, or the hype around it, introduced a lot of new people to the Muppets, who, like us, will discover and rediscover the older shows, and rally behind new ones. It was a different show aimed at a different audience for a different era. It was nice while it lasted.
And it's ABC's fault! Now we'll never see the muppets for the next twenty years. I hope ABC gets shut down. That will be their punishment. At least, Mickey Mouse is safer on Disney Channel. I'm sticking to cartoons from now on.
So sad. I was really hoping for a second season, as the last episode ended with such a high note (and a cliff hanger). Oh well, I guess all good things must come to an end. I just wish this lasted a little bit longer.
Such a darn shame.
Every episode of season 1 was amazing. It brought back that wonderful feeling of having a hilarious comedy show to watch during the week that I haven't felt since The Office went off the air :/
Oh well, can't say I'm surprised, to be honest.
So what do you think the chances are we'll get the show on Blu-ray or at least DVD?
I guess Disney will have to sell The Muppets to another company.
Everyone in Muppetdom (fans, puppeteers, producers) should put a funding collection together, buy the franchise then give the characters to either Steve Whitmire, the performers as a collective or back to the Jim Henson Company.
Stupid idea, I know. But they are the people I'd prefer them to be in the hands of.
OR give them to me. With a little financial backing, I could come up with some pretty funky ideas
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