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ABC Orders Muppet Pilot To Series!

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by charlietheowl, May 7, 2015.

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  1. Reevz1977

    Reevz1977 Well-Known Member

    This show is going to be terrible because Jason Se... Oh

    :)
     
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  2. GuySmileyfan

    GuySmileyfan Active Member

    WHOOPPEE! I can't wait! I hope Rowlf is going to be there. He's one of my favorites. He's so cute and cuddly.
     
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  3. ashkent

    ashkent Active Member

    I'm 33 now. I watched Fraggle Rock when i was a kid. I watched the Muppet Show and Muppets Tonight in the subsequent years. I watched every Muppet film made - even the dubious ones - and now I make puppets for people who want to bring that kind of magic to a new generation. Hearing that The Muppets are coming back to TV was quite strange and here are the reasons why.

    I want the Muppets back on TV. It's been too long without them. I want my daughters to grow up with the same kind of entertainment they gave me for many years. So the initial reaction is like I just found a ticket with the winning lottery numbers on.

    Then I think back to the brilliant bits seen in the trailers for The Muppets that were cut from the final film. And then i start to think back couple of years to the BBC airing That Puppet Game Show and this is where I feel like I have to treat this the same as when Heath Ledger played The Joker in The Dark Knight. I cannot really allow myself to feel that it will either be fantastic or dismal until it finally arrives. The Muppets and Muppets Most Wanted for me were good enough to kickstart their careers again, make people who weren't around the first time that they exist. That Puppet Game Show however, even with the Henson name attached to it, just didn't work at all, and this is speaking as someone who loves - and i mean really loves - everything that Jim Henson created and the team have continued on for over 2 decades. ****, i can even sit down and watch Fraggle Rock now and it is as entertaining as it was when I was three years old. That is an achievement and that is where That Puppet Game Show failed. It wasn't particularly funny, the characters weren't particularly unique or memorable, and the puppet only sections were...i don't know...seemed to be written for five year olds being treat like two year olds - something The Muppet Show and everything Jim had a hand in never did. They never dumbed down, never patronised and never treat children like children.

    For me, if this new version of The Muppet Show is going to work it has to rediscover that same formula that Jim had so finely tuned it was virtually flawless entertainment for both adults and children alike. It has to be all or nothing, it has to be funny and it can't be afraid of anarchy.

    That's my two cents anyway...but i am really hoping that come airing I'm running around the room with my arms in the air shouting "Wheyyyyyyyyyyy"
     
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  4. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    He's kind of faded from public view the past couple of years. How I Met Your Mother went off the air and all I remember him doing since was Sex Tape, which I think bombed. So he's removed enough from the spotlight that no one will be bothered his lack of presence.
     
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  5. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    The people behind the OFFICIAL Disney blog have seen the first episode of "The Muppets" for ABC television. They say how Muppets Oz sucked, that Muppets Tonight missed the mark...and they say the pilot alone is nothing short of amazing. Funny, modern, meta. They even heavily reference the Jim Henson Hour. You guys realize we're looking at the next level of The Muppets right? Where they need to be. Bust out loud funny, soulful, fun, irreverent and right on the mark.

    http://blogs.disney.com/insider/201...ting-muppet-series-since-the-jim-henson-hour/
     
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  6. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    The official Disney blog LITERALLY calls it Waiting for Guffman meets Jim Henson Hour and The Office
     
  7. Iscah

    Iscah Active Member

    So, when will the series be on TV? (I gather that this is a set seasonal announcement of the shows that will be on at a particular time of year.) I have no idea about American TV scheduling.

    Also, the pilot episode just becomes Episode 1, right?
     
  8. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Usually, yes, the pilot is Episode 1 of a series, but not necessarily always the case. Remember that the first episode of The Muppet Show that was taped was the episode guest starring Jim Neighbors, and yet that was Episode 106.
     
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  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That's actually an excellent point right there. However, the difference was that Puppet Game Show was Henson and everything after MWOO was Disney. Now, not saying Disney didn't have missteps, but I think it evens out to around, they're doing a pretty good job with the characters for the most part. Henson... and yes, this is going to be another "Henson can't get it's act together" rant... Henson...well, can't get it's act together, exactly. They're the ones that sold the Muppets to Disney after all. So it seems they had some clarity on the fact they can't get anything done. Henson is grasping at straws, and other than CGI preschool programming, they haven't found that magic new project that will bring them back. And so they reach, but only to adults and preschoolers. No middle family ground. Now, I LOVED Puppet Up, don't get me wrong. I loved that all too short series of videos with the puppet presidential candidate performed by Animaniacs and Freakazoid's own Paul Rugg. And I do think Jim would have done a Muppet/Creature shop syndicated game show at some point (there actually were plans for a kid's game show with aliens)... it's just that they don't have much direction, and I'm sure the concept could have been done far better.

    Point is, Henson has so many projects on the back burner that may never get completed that when they do actually manage to get something out there, it's amazing. It never lasts, and there's always something missing.
     
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  10. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I was talking with someone the other day and they where saying how they thought Henson should have kept the Muppets, or even that Sesame Workshop should have control of them. I brought up the point that sure Disney has mad some mistakes, and some broken promises (The Muppet Show Seasons 4 & 5) but they have done a lot with the Muppets.
    Let's face it, Disney now owns Star Wars, and Marvel. Which are two very big cash cows, and in the long run could bring in a lot more money then the Muppets ever could. With that in mind plus the lack luster ticket sales of Most Wanted, it's a wonder Disney is doing anything with them let alone a TV Show. On the flip side of that it looks like Disney has finally got people in charge of the Muppets who understand who they are, and what makes them great. So I said all that to say that again, it's not perfect but the Muppets are in good and capable hands with Disney.
     
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  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Everyone wants to paint Disney as the only evil entertainment conglomerate ever because of weird urban legends and that they're apparently the only litigious entertainment conglomerate ever. Sony tried to keep redefining the word "piracy" to the point where buying a CD and ripping it to put on a music player was considered stealing. And Viacom's Youtube antics are well known. Not to mention how Warner Bros is insanely self litigious that it can't cross reference itself for some reason (to say the least, "Bat Embargo"). And it's not like these companies are that competent either.

    Look at Sony and Spider-Man. They kept sabotaging their own films so they have to keep rebooting them only to sabotage them again. Spider-Man 3? Amazing Spider-Man 2? They ruined those films themselves, freaked the beak out about the bad reception (even though both films made a crapton of money), yet refuse to let it go because it makes said crapton of money. Seriously. The deal they made with Disney over the character in film form was the only really decent thing they've done. And yes, someone's going to say "well, if they didn't give up the animation rights, Spectacular Spider-Man would still be on the air instead of that other show." which is far from true because Kid's WB screwed the show out of a home, and after the second season, they were telling everyone to clean out their desks. Best case scenario, we would have seen another Spidey cartoon, but based off of the Amazing films. Oh... eh... anyway...

    By comparison, look at the well oiled machine of Disney produced Marvel films. Constantly making money and generally favorable. Fox is doing alright with the X-Men films, I guess, but considering what Fantastic Four is going to be? Shudder... Disney is essentially the only competent media conglomerate out there. Muppets are in decent enough hands.
     
  12. MrBloogarFoobly

    MrBloogarFoobly Well-Known Member

    Count me as a grouch with high hopes! :D
     
  13. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I want to address something that has come to my attention. If people do not think that this kind of style of show will be good for the Muppets, it dose not mean they are any less of a Muppet fan then ones that do.
    This format is new different, and something the Muppets have never done before, so who are we to judge if this is going to be good or not. We have never seen this show, so really we can't say how good it is until the show airs.
    Sadly some fans have become so set in there ways that anyone who may try and rock the boat the a difference of opinion then they are belittled, made fun of and down right bullied. Which is sad because one of the main messages of the Muppets was being able to accept people for who they are.To try to find the good in everyone even the ones we may not like.
    Everyone should feel comfortable to be able to post how they feel about any production past present or future, and not have to worry about being ridiculed, and bullied.
    I know that this is for the most part not the case,but I have seen it pop up from time to time, so it's a good reminder.
     
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  14. LouisTheOtter

    LouisTheOtter Well-Known Member

    About an hour after finding out the news of the series order, I got in my car to drive to my local barber shop, put the MMW soundtrack in the CD player, and sang along to "We're Doing A Sequel," replacing the word "sequel" with "series" and the word "studio" with "network."

    It was wonderfully cathartic. You should all try it. (Even if you don't have to go to the barber shop.) ;)
     
  15. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Lyrics for "We're Doing A Series".

    Sung
    :): We're doing a series, we're back by popular demand.
    So come on everybodyAnd strike up the band.

    :): We're doing a series.
    :o: That's what they do in Hollywood.
    Both: And everybody hopes that this series is really good.

    Kermit and Fozzie: We're doing a series, another TV attraction.
    ;): Places please. Light the lights, roll camera, action!

    All: I thought this was the end.
    But no my friends this is when.
    We get to do it all again.
    :sleep: and :boo: Do it all again?
    All: Until the credits roll.
    We've got another go to show that.
    We can do it all again.
    *:cluck: clucking.

    All: We're doing a series, there's no need to disguise.
    :mad: The network considers us a viable franchise.

    All: We're doing a series, how hard can it be?
    :sympathy: So long as they don't pair us with SHIELD Season 3!

    All: We're doing a series, the network wants more.
    :concern: While they wait for another Housewives spin-off or more.

    All: I thought this was the end.
    But no my friends this is when.
    We get to do it all again.
    EM: Do it all again?
    All: Until the credits roll.
    We've got another go to show that.
    We can do it all again.
    *:zany: squacking.

    All: We're doing a series.
    :cool: Let's give it a go.
    :sing: With Hollywood stars.
    :flirt: As one-note cameos.

    All: We're doing a series.
    :confused: I don't mean to be a teacher.
    But this is the third series after our original TV feature.

    All: We're doing a series, let's give it a shot.
    :): All we need now is a pilot that's hot.

    Spoken.
    :concern: Got it. A love story between a very handsome long-nosed thing and a chicken. Call it Scanfowl.
    :): Does anybody have any other ideas?
    :o: Oh oh, it's about getting back all the Muppets again to put on a show where we put on acts and sing and dance at the old theater!
    :): Fozzie, did you even watch our old show?
    :fishy: How about one of those swimming with the sharks show?
    :): Yeah, I'm not so sure about that one Lew.
    :mad: It's about a frog and a beautiful, perfect pig, and she gets to kick his butt a lot.
    :): Um….
    :hungry: *Insert Mock-Swedish suggestion.*
    :): I don't think America likes dubbed-over shows.
    :sleep: How about a show where you don't make a show.
    :boo: Then everybody gets to turn their TV's off early.
    :): Good grief.
    :sympathy: It's about a dog who one night sees something he should never see, and he has to live with a terrible secret.
    :): That sounds a little dark, Rowlf.
    ;): Kermit, how about a show about our normal lives on and off-camera trying to pitch a pilot for a new show?
    :): That's perfect!

    Sung
    All: I thought this was the end.
    But no my friends this is when.
    We get to do it all again.
    All: Until the credits roll.
    We've got another go to show that.
    We can do it all again.

    All: We're doing a series, it's more of the same.
    :): Let's give it a name.
    :fanatic: How about The Muppets again?

    All: It's the Muppets again with The Muppets again.
    It's The... Muppets... agaaaaaaaaaaain!
     
    Last edited: May 10, 2015
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    We can't do any worse than Whitney.
     
  17. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Take a look at one review for the new pilot.

    "While the muppets themselves are more or less a mediocre source of entertainment, the absense of former muppet film star Jason Segel was the dealbreaker, and lowers their existence to nothing more than socks, and in this era of buzzy high budget entertainment, these insignificant creatures have no place, but in the past, their only source of becoming a pop culture icon again is to get Jason Segel to be a full time player. 2/10" - Jason S.

    That is one review for the show.
     
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  18. LaRanaRene

    LaRanaRene Well-Known Member

    lol sure it is
     
  19. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Wow my only question for the person who wrote that would be. Are you Jason Segel?
     
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  20. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Sorry for double posting here but I really feel this needs to be said. Please don't let this review scare you. this is just one review from someone who may not really understand the Muppets, and what they can do. I honestly think that a review this strongly is a little premature, because the show has not even aired yet. Please folks let's just cross our fingers and give the Muppets a chance.
     
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