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Another New Noggin

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by ssetta, Mar 8, 2003.

  1. ssetta

    ssetta Well-Known Member

    I have been watching Noggin today, and during EVERY break, they have this stupid little moose singing a song about ANOTHER new Noggin coming April 7th! Some debuts are: Something called Tweenies, I believe it's supposed to be kids between babies and big kids, and just doing kiddie stuff like Barney. And Oobi is getting his own show. For those of you who don't know who Oobi is, you might have seen him in between shows, those skits with those hands with eyes on them that talk. Also they are getting some more Nickelodeon series. Dora the Explorer is coming, and also Bob the Builder. I think there's someone new named Miffy, but I don't know if she's new. My only concern is: I have noticed that every time they add a new series, or a few of them, they always have 1 less Sesame Street. And if they do, they will probably cancel the one at 3:30, which is from season 25. But that's not the only thing. I don't know if you noticed this, but Allegra's Window is already GONE, and Gullah Gullah Island is now down to ONCE a day. I never really cared for those shows, but those 2 shows, Season 25 Sesame Street, and Blue's Clues, are all the series Noggin had on when they first started. What I get the impression is that everything Noggin had originally is being phased out, if you know what I mean. I mean, I'm very sad, but I KNOW there's nothing we can do to save the old Sesame Street.[:(]
  2. CookieFan

    CookieFan Well-Known Member

    How the heck can they do a WHOLE HALF HOUR on talking hands??? At least something like Tiny Planets would be a cool half hour show, but Oobi????

    I'm afraid to see Noggin's new schedule. Very afraid.
  3. sweet201

    sweet201 Member

    All of this is REALLY crummy, especially since Noggin has been turned on pretty much every day in our house since my son was born. I *hate* Dora the Explorer and will NOT let my son watch it. And I am also not looking forward to half-hour Oobi - I can't stand five minutes of their annoying banter, which goes a little like this:

    "Kikko! Play!"
    "Oobi play!"
    "Oobi, play."
    "Kikko play?"
    "Kikko play."
    "Oobi play."
    "Oobi..... Kikko..... PLAY!!"

    The new "Tweenies" show looks terrible, also. My son ADORES Sesame Street and Play With Me Sesame. Our whole family (my hubby and I are HUGE muppet fans as well) will be sorely disappointed if Noggin does away with its best programming.

    As a side note - as well as trying all these new programs, I think Noggin is also phasing in commercials. If you notice, when they first started the preschool programming from 6 AM to 6 PM, the only thing that could be considered an advertisement on Noggin was the snippet they would show between programs from another Noggin show, and then "You can watch (Maisy, for example) every day, on Noggin." Around Thanksgiving, I noticed that they were showing ads for Nick Jr. and other Nickelodeon programming, and now they also advertise things like the live Blue's Clues show and some contests. I think it will not be much longer until Noggin, like all the other cable stations before it, turns to full-on commercial advertising, at which time I may just turn off my television once and for all. (Until it's time for Jerry Springer. Ha! Ha!) :p Tina
  4. ssetta

    ssetta Well-Known Member

    You know, that is very possible. In case you didn't know, Noggin is not PBS. They are not viewer-support, so they will have commercials. They also have sponsors for some of there shows, like Jillian's. But see, Sesame Street is very different when it's not on PBS. PBS stations won't just do away with their best shows for no reason. They actually listen to their viewers, because we are the ones supporting the station. But I do agree, I don't think it's a very good idea that they're doing this. Because then the channel will be too much like Nickelodeon.
  5. dcfboss

    dcfboss Well-Known Member

    dora the explorer is already on nickelodeon.....don't know why they gotta double it up. i dont have noggin but i watch some old s.s. at my gf's house sometimes.

    i like gullah gullah island and allegra's window.....i grew up on those shows when cable came out and i phased out of sesame street. it's a shame, there's no real channel for the pure classics, and when there is, they infuse a whole bunch of original crap and stupid shows that make no sense.
  6. sweet201

    sweet201 Member

    I just learned something disturbing about Noggin, of which I was not previously aware:

    Last year, Nickelodeon bought out Sesame Workshop's stake in Noggin. (http://asia.news.yahoo.com/030307/3/t7qk.html)

    So I guess this means that Noggin has *no* reason to show Sesame Street or PWMS. This article (http://www.ciconline.com/PressRoom/MemberNewsArchive/Noggin_2_26_03.htm ) also reveals that there will now be a "Nick Jr. Block" from 2-6 PM, which eliminates one episode of each Sesame show. I'm willing to bet that it won't be too long before the channel is renamed "Nick Jr." so that Nickelodeon won't have to be 'burdened' with all of that semi-educational preschool programming anymore.

    One more thing - Noggin is *also* getting rid of the little singing head guy. We love the Noggin guy around here - I have a feeling my toddler is going to freak out....
  7. ssetta

    ssetta Well-Known Member

    Okay, I read that article, and it said that Noggin will continue to air educational staples such as Sesame Street, Blue's Clues, and Play With Me Sesame, but it doesn't look like they will be airing them that often. But how do you know that Sesame Street won't be on at 3:30 anymore?
  8. Manda:-D

    Manda:-D Well-Known Member

    :mad: Grrrrrrr.......
    OK, I don't watch Noggin much, b/c it's not on our basic cable package at home. But, I DO watch it when I baby-sit my 2 & 3-year-old cousins. I usually put Noggin on b/c, for one thing, Rachel, 2, LOVES Play With Me Sesame, and she NEVER gets to watch what she wants b/c she doesn't talk much & her big sister Rebecca, 3, is VERY verbal. Besides, I like Sesame Street, too, and it's either Noggin or Beauty and The Beast: Enchanted Christmas OVER and OVER. My point is, Rachel pretty much only likes SS & anything that has SS characters in it, and I'm DEFINITELY not looking forward to watching a whole half hour of OOBIE.
    So, in other words....:mad: Grrrrrrr......
  9. kramerboy

    kramerboy New Member

    I too hope that they don't change around their core shows to the point that my toddler son doesn't freak out. He loves Play with Me Sesame and Sesame 123. I didn't see Maisy on their new schedule either..... :grouchy:
  10. ssetta

    ssetta Well-Known Member

    I'm sure Maisy will still be on. She was on Nick Jr., wasn't she? And also, they have been doing all this stuff with "Maisy Mornings", so she'll stay on. For some reason, I actually like Maisy's music. It's kind of like reggae.

    And you know, from what it looks like, I think either Franklin or Little Bear were actually on CBS, but I don't know. Anyway, it did say in the article that Blue's Clues, Sesame Street, and Play With Me Sesame will be staying. But they will probably be doing away with Sesame Street Unpaved, and probably the 123 Sesame Street shows from Season 25. It's very sad.:cry:
  11. sweet201

    sweet201 Member

    I am very curious how PWMS and 123 will fit into the new schedule. According to the commercials I've seen (as well as the articles I mentioned previously), the half-hour Oobi will be shown at 9 AM, while the new show "Tweenies" is going to be on at noon (ET) - both time slots that are currently held by PWMS, with 123 following. Additionally, the 2-6PM hours will be ALL Nick Jr. shows - Bob the Builder, Dora, etc, which takes away the 3:00 PWMS *and* the 3:30 showing of 123.

    I did read further and noticed that it said SW will regain total rights to all Sesame Street episodes in 2 (or was it 3) years, while Noggin has a 7 year contract for PWMS. So PWM will definitely be around for awhile longer... but I am very worried about the future of Sesame Street on Noggin. My little boy loves ANYTHING muppety, and one of the things that seems to calm and delight him most during our long hours at home (I'm a stay-at-home mom) are those few times a day when mommy says, "Would you like to go in the living room? Sesame is on!" I am always amazed by just how much the sight of Ernie, Elmo, Grover and the others captivates and soothes him. It is so rare to find a children's show that parents can enjoy, too... and the new Noggin schedule doesn't appear to have a whole lot in that vein. I guess we'll just have to wait and see....

    On the up side, the little guy seems to REALLY like the little moose guy they've been showing as the soon-to-be host. Every time he hears Moose A. Moose's voice, Tristan bolts into the living room to check him out. :crazy: Tina
  12. CookieFan

    CookieFan Well-Known Member

    I think I will be doing a lot of taping of 123 Sesame for the rest of the month!
  13. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    New Noggin!!! Please no!!!!

    :o Why in the world would they do this to use real huge muppet fans of Sesame Street. I'm kind of glad that I've been able to record some episodes of sesame street I have the first showing of Sesame street on tape. I didn't have satellite at first so would go to my sisters's boyfriend to record episode of the show. So now that I have it I'm glad. So like Cookiefan said I'm recording as much as I can get of the show. Maybe They'll get another channel and start showing all types of muppets shows and speaicals.
  14. CookieFan

    CookieFan Well-Known Member

    I just don't buy the "there's no market for retro programming" excuse from Noggin. The Cartoon Network's Boomerang network appears to be doing fine showing classic cartoons, and they do things like have Banana Splits marathons.

    But, apparently we're not the market that Noggin is trying to reach (even though many of us are the PARENTS with the WALLETS of the audience they ARE trying to reach!)

    Incidentally, are the TWEENIES a British import?
  15. sweet201

    sweet201 Member

    The Tweenies are indeed a British import, but we'll be seeing a re-dubbed version using American actors. I cannot find the story right now, but I read somewhere that in addition to eliminating the British accents, they are also changing some of the local vernacular - one of the cited examples was the substitution of "jungle gym" for the British "climbing frame".

    When I relayed this information to my friend Darren, who has lived in the UK all his life, he just laughed and told me that when he and his wife were in California, they had happened upon an episode of Thomas the Tank Engine in their hotel room - with SUBTITLES!! English subtitles. On a show where they were speaking English. :confused: Tina
  16. ssetta

    ssetta Well-Known Member

    I looked at that article, and I believe it said Oobi will be on at 8:30 and 11:30. I didn't see anything for the 9:00 timeslot, or the 1:00 timeslot. Maybe it will be on those 2 times. What exactly do they mean by "educational staples" like Sesame Street? I mean, it's too popular for them to take it off!
  17. ssetta

    ssetta Well-Known Member

    Sesame Street has not been on Noggin in about 3 years, and Play With Me Sesame got cancelled from Noggin a year ago. However, both can now be seen on the channel called PBS Kids Sprout. I notice you are new to Muppet Central, and would like to point out how old that post is. This was made way back in 2003, when both were still on. Please don't revive old threads like this if you can help it.
  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Exactly. You scared me that it was off Sprout now.
  19. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    It's alright SS. She didn't mean too. She didn't even know. It's alright jewlquest. We all know that. I wished it still aired on Noggin becasue i don't have DIRECTV. But we all know your sadness Jewl.
  20. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Because Viacom is run by idiots.

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