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Any Big Mean Carl fans?

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by beaker, Nov 26, 2009.

  1. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    I have to say one of my absolute favorite Muppets now has to be Big Mean Carl. You saw him in last year's "Muppets Take Over Today Show" in the control room, you saw him as a postal clerk in Letters To Santa, and now he's in Bohemian Rhapsody

    My hope is someday we'll get Big Mean Carl toys, figures and plushes...heck I say he could have his own children's books! Who's with me?

    Some random newer pictures of Carl:

    (Carl grabbing a random fan who snuck onto the Letters set)

    (Carl at the NBC Today Show controls)

    (Big Mean Carl profile)

    I liked him on Muppets Tonight...I liked him in the early 90's Muppet Business Meeting short films. But now...he's really blossomed, and for whatever reason Disney's Muppet Studio heads have decided to have him become one of the main reoccurring secondary characters. Strangely enough while he looks like it, he is a 90's character like Pepe and not from the Muppet Show.

    Of course...I'm a strange one. I love Digit, Zondra, Lindburgh,
    Mo Frackle, Joe The Armadillo, Droop and various random obscure characters:)
  2. ploobis

    ploobis Well-Known Member

    I love Big Mean Carl too!

    He brings back the Classic Muppet tradition of Muppets being eaten by other Muppets!

    I always wonder how much does that puppet weigh and how Bill Barretta preforms him.

    I'm guessing that Bill preforms the head and mouth while another puppeteer preforms his hands.

    It's also great that BMC is back with the Muppet Gang these days! He's a great addition to The Muppets!

    "THANK YOU!"
  3. GonzoLeaper

    GonzoLeaper Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah- I like Big Mean Carl- I think he's a great addition to The Muppets. It's been cool to see him showing up in some recent productions.:) And he was hilarious on Muppets Tonight!
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Any muppet show monster is a GOOD character as far as I'm concerned. Carl is no exception. I'm so glad they brought him back (as well as some of the pirates from MTI)... facinating to look at, and it's almost a wonder he wasn't one of the original Muppet Monsters. He holds that spirit very well.
  5. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    I think he may be performed a bit differently than Bobo, although I'm not sure.

    I just have this really strong feeling BMC could be a cult hit breakaway character like Beaker and Swedish Chef with enough marketing. While I'm happy we got a Doglion figure, I would absolutely love to see a Carl shirt, plush and figure. Something about the character to me just seems larger than life, and there must be a reason Muppet Studios has been using him a lot lately.

    Have you seen him on Muppets take Over Today? Here's an exclusive outtake from that, where he ends up eating a rat
    "Where's Ann Curray with my cupcakes?"

    Yeah, it's funny I truly did think he was from the original Muppet show along with Luncheon Counter and the rest of his contemporaries.
  6. the weirdo

    the weirdo Member

    "Hi, I'm Carl... and now I'll eat these bagpipes."
    I love BMC <3 He's really funny, especially when he's Carl the Big Mean Bunny.
  7. rexcrk

    rexcrk Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately I'm not familiar with him :sympathy: I never saw Muppets Tonight and he wasn't featured heavily in MCC, MTI, MFS, VMMCM, or MWoO.

    Although I did like his cameo in LTS and in the Bohemian Rhapsody vid.
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    MFS would be the earliest movie he could have appeared in (though he wasn't in there). MCC and MTI (while MTI featured the monkey who would become Sal, but performed by someone else) came before that series, so he couldn't very well have been introduced before MT, when he was clearly a character created from a scripted sketch.

    My guess about his new found stardom? They really want to bulk up the Muppet cast without having to spend all that capital creating new characters. We're seeing a lot of old MTI pirates in these new virmups as well. I really like this idea, myself. They have all these perfectly good older characters that they can use instead of just trying to create even more characters in a very very big cast.

    Plus, Carl really does embody the old spirit of the Muppet Monster, as I said earlier. Luncheon Counter, Beautiful Day, Doglion, Big Mama... Tommy... even unnamed ones... even classic 70's and 80's Sesame Street monsters. They really needed more of that in the main TMS character assortment.
  9. rexcrk

    rexcrk Well-Known Member

    Right. I don't know why I listed Christmas Carol and Treasure Island lol.
  10. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member

    Actually the puppet has existed since 1992 so (even though he didn't) he could have been used in MCC or MTI if they decided to use him in either one. Although there were a lot of Muppets built due to accomodate scripts during MT! several new characters came about due to workshops during pre-production where Muppeteers would pick up various puppets and improv possible new characters with the writers observing. This is how Sal went from an anonymous monkey puppet to Johnny Fiama's assistant. The same thing probably occurred with Carl.
  11. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Yep, and didn't Bobo kind of exist as of 1984 as an "anything bear" in TMTM?

    I remember Carl made his debut(I think) in an early 90's business tape sketch of some sort.
  12. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member

    Yep, Bobo started as one of the bears from MTM (which is fun to watch now since you can spot Bobo "in drag" during the wedding finale) and Carl made his debut in one of the Muppet Meeting Films.
  13. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Carl is a cool character, though there are a lot of other monsters I like better. Behemoth, Gorgon Heap, Thog, Doglion, Boppity...
  14. Barry Lee

    Barry Lee Well-Known Member

    I Love Big Mean Carl, and I agree with ya'll he really brings the spirit of the Classic Muppet Monster formula. Nom nom nom, eating muppets :insatiable:
  15. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That's very interesting. I wonder if they just didn't use the character's puppet because they had so many others to choose from. Shame they didn't give him a cameo as a pirate in MTI since that's the case.
  17. beakerboy12

    beakerboy12 Well-Known Member

    I am a giant fan of Big Mean Carl! I adore him in ''Stand by Me'', I hope he gets featured in the new Muppet Movie! Even though, Jason Segel doesn't want many post Henson Muppets.
  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The Muppet Studios people are clearly going to goad them to use a few of the newer characters somewhere, especially ones that are already built or rebuilt... even if only in a crowd scene. It's cost effective.

    Plus, given the fact that Carl REALLY managed to make a come back (he's even in the Snow White comic's finale issue), they're clearly going to get him to be somewhere in the film. I truely think that even Carl has a classic Muppetness about him that none of the other newer characters (not even Pepe) possess. There's no real reason to leave him out in that case. Even if they make him just one-a da monsters.
  19. SeanC

    SeanC Well-Known Member

    I'm a big fan of the Muppet monsters and while Carl is second fiddle to the 'greats' of the Jim Henson era, he's still a lot of fun. I only have vague memories of 'Muppets Tonight' but I absolutely loved him in that 'Stand by Me' short.
  20. beakerfan76

    beakerfan76 Well-Known Member

    He's pretty cool. I loved the Smashing Pumpkins bit he did on MT, as well as the Stand By Me video. He's delightfully destructive, and I love it.

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