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Are the Muppets as popular as they were 30 to 40 years ago?

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by DMHFan, May 20, 2017.

  1. DMHFan

    DMHFan Well-Known Member

    I don't know if this has been asked, but, are The Muppets (Kermit, Miss Piggy, Fozzie, Gonzo, Scooter, Statler and Waldorf, etc.) popular as they were in the late '70s and the early '80s? (The Muppet Show's run)
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  2. newsmanfan

    newsmanfan Well-Known Member

    I've wondered that myself. The fact that younger folk such as yourself are still enjoying the Muppets (even TMS, and the original films) these many years later suggests that their appeal is timeless. (Granted, I already thought that, so I'm biased!) I have nieces, 10 and 8, who love the original show.

    Are the Muppets AS popular as they were at the height of things in the late 70s/early 80s? I don't know. Disney seems to consider them still a viable commercial property; I still see Muppet toys in some stores. I've no idea how well the dvds sell; would have to look up amazon sales rankings.

    I find it encouraging to see younger folk discovering and enjoying the Muppets as I did as a child (and as I very much still do today). And of course there are still many, many adults who remember and love the characters!
  3. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Maybe not the immediate popularity of the 70s and 80s but they're definitely fondly remembered. As far as younger generations, well from what I've seen they certainly have a strong following on Tumblr. ;)
  4. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Eh, well, everyone knows about Sesame Street. So that's gotta count for something, right?
  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I kind of think Frank Oz has a point though when he said the Muppets (or "Muppets") have become something like "Kleenex" in that whenever you see film/television style puppets on a screen, many people just automatically regard them as Muppets, whether they're actually Muppet characters or not . . . and in a sense, it's true: I've seen videos on YouTube that have puppets included, and people in the comments refer to them as "Muppets," and I think even TV Tropes has sort of genericised the term a bit as well.

    I don't think they're as popular as they were in the 70s or 80s, but then again,t here's other things that have been around for so long, that they kind of fall into that whole "Seinfeld is Unfunny" trope . . . like, look at the Looney Tunes in general.
  6. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    The Muppets are nowhere near as popular as they were in the 70s-80s. I'm sure there was a huge following back then, especially since TMS was a global phenomenon and TMM was a huge box office hit.

    Nowadays, the average person will say they like the muppets but have only seen one or two movies or confuse them with sesame street. At least they're still relevant.
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  7. DMHFan

    DMHFan Well-Known Member

    What I mean by The Muppets are the ones from The Muppet Show/movies/specials (Kermit the Frog, Miss Piggy, Fozzie Bear, Gonzo the Great, Scooter, Rowlf the Dog, Statler and Waldorf, Animal, etc.), not the ones from Sesame Street. Alright?
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  8. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I brought up this same kind of thought on Facebook the other day. I've been thinking and watching a lot of Jim Henson's early Muppet work. You know like Sam and Friends and all of the countless commercials that where so popular.
    I've been thinking that the Muppets need to get back to some of that. Sure the Muppets where in there prime during the Muppet Show days, but they where also very popular before then as well.
    I think they have really not expanded on the internet as well as they could as well. I think for a brief time they where slowly starting to get back to there roots when they where doing all of those wonderful videos for muppets.com. sadly that to is a thing of the past.
  9. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    I agree. Not only muppets.com, but all those great youtube videos. They were making all these viral videos like Bohemian Rhapsody and Beaker's ode to joy back in the late 00's and early 10's. Then they pretty much stopped and now all they do are those "thoughts of the week" that barely register 10k views.
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  10. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    Probably not, but they're so timeless it's impossible to tell.
  11. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    Those videos aren't getting viewed a lot?
  12. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Hardly any views.
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  13. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    I wonder if the recent show's cancellation has to to with the views.
  14. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    I think it varies.

    I feel like the humor has honestly changed over the years, but it's still something any generation can enjoy.
  15. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    I don't mean this in a rude sense, but honestly, asking if the Muppets are still popular is like asking if people still drink Coke.

    Yes the Muppets were probably way more hot in the 70s and early 80s, than maybe they are today in some regards. But characters like the Muppets, and I'll even though in characters like Superman, Batman, Spider-man, Looney Tunes, Mickey Mouse and Peanuts, have become pop culture icons. Even if Muppets Most Wanted didn't exactly wow at the box office and the prime time TV show only lasted one season with diminishing ratings, Kermit, Miss. Piggy and the rest of the gang still hold and will always hold a place in many people's hearts and will continue for many years to come. After all, that's a BIG reason Disney wanted to buy them in the first place.

    One thing that's a pet peeve of mine is when people throw around words, one of this words is the word: "fad." One great example is when people try to say Pokemon was a "fad from the 90s." Totally wrong. Sure maybe Pokemon isn't exactly as huge as it was in the late 90s, where it was insane huge, look like it was going to take over the world and those poor parents at the time couldn't go 20 minutes without seeing or hearing Pikachu. But Pokemon is still very popular and continues to reach out to younger fans that weren't even born during the high of the Pokemon craze. That's NOT a "fad." Fads don't stay consistently popular for 20+ years. Fads last a year, TOPS, like kids wearing all their clothes backwards when the kid group "Kris Kross" made it popular for a short time or something along those lines. Same thing with the Muppets, even though people might not be beating each other up to get the latest Kermit the frog doll, that doesn't mean they're no longer popular.
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  16. DMHFan

    DMHFan Well-Known Member

    So what year did their popularity decline, to be exact?
  17. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    Well Kermit has taken a part in many a meme, and I think people will always like characters like Chef, Beaker, Animal, etc. just because of the novelty of them.

    Well the '70s and the '80s were their peak, and then once Jim died they obviously took a hit in the '90s.
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  18. DMHFan

    DMHFan Well-Known Member

    What do you mean by "take a hit"?
  19. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    Fall back in popularity. They never recovered from that; it would've been impossible to. He was in the process of selling them to Disney when he died; there was going to be a bunch more Muppet stuff at Disney World. I think there was even talks of them having their own park.

    So I think the answer you're looking for is 1990. Jim isn't the be-all, end-all (obviously a lot of people helped make his vision a reality), but he was the Muppets. Notice how Frank Oz has nothing to do with them anymore.
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    In regards to Frank, a lot of his also has to do with his career as a movie director, which began to bud a few years before Jim passed away. Not to mention, as far as SST is concerned, even though for a while he was dedicated one day out of the year to come back, "just for fun," they otherwise can't afford him as a regular or semi-regular performer on the show because he's too expensive.
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