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Arthur - Where is the Show Going?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by D'Snowth, Oct 15, 2009.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    So, apparently Marc Brown will be making a Creator Cameo for the new season. . . .
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  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member



    So, despite them still using 9 Story's models (though they must have designed Francine, because she somehow looks even more hideously off-model), the animation appears to be a lot smoother and more fluid. I even like how convincing the blushing looks now - that was something they were never good with, even in the days of hand animation.
     
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  3. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member


    Marc:"Two decades is a long time. We must be doing something right."

    I can't for the life of me figure out what that is, Marc.

    Arthur: "Do you think we'll be on the air for another 20 years?"

    I hope not.
     
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    When it comes to Flash animation (or flash-like programs used for animation) what I really can't stand is how head turns are so...rigid if they even bother to use them because they only design head libraries at 1/4th intervals. Where as hand drawn animation allows for more head angles, making the head turns look fluid and realistic. Seems that they're starting to do a better job with head movements with this clip.
     
  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Wow. Scathing, yet hilarious. :laugh:

    Makes me think of how they gave Muffy a new quarter interval look for certain angles:
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    I think they had done the same for Francine, but again, it just made her look even more off-model.
     
  6. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    And Arthur's ears still flop around a bit.
     
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, I've already missed the Season 20 premiere . . . because I'm still not quite used it being on at 3:00 instead of 4:00.
     
  8. Mr Snrub

    Mr Snrub Active Member

    *Did they reanimate the intro? It looks kinda less animated, if that makes sense
    *OH GOD, ARTHUR'S VOICE
    *Love Ducks!
    *Hey, a new backstory that kinda works!
    *They're in 4th grade now. Don't cop out of a copout
    *Yeah. Right. Buster and Arthur never meet, and Arthur ends up a Tough Customer with a Jersey accent. Sure.
    *Jack of Jack's Joke Shop?
    *That comic book guy from that one episode?
    *"Let's go smell some goats!"
    *Honestly? For a kinda cliche plot like that, it was good. Not really much of a resolution, but still good
    *Hey, Arthur still plays the piano!
    *TFW you'll never have a friend like Buster
    *"Making us play against robots is unfair!"
    *I could complain that Arthur's diorama being terrible and Buster's being great goes against past episodes, but honestly, if they go the right way with this plot, it works
    *Uncle Fred!
    *Francine looks off model as heck

    Didn't take as many comments as during the first segment, but other than a few things (Arthur blowing up at Buster after the recital), this was handled quite well, especially for a topic that not many other kids shows handle. (and the ones that do, do it as more of a joke)
     
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I caught the first new episode. The animation is better, but it's all about subtly. The frame rate seems to have been taken down a bit, making it look more like an animated cartoon series's usual frame rates. Little things like head turns and expressions have improved, but again, subtly. I'd say a good frame of reference is Martha Speaks. And there seems to be a lot more movement, making them less stiff. It's slightly better and more in line with other Flash animated shows. There's an awkwardness in the previous seasons that seems to have faded away here. I can't put my finger on it, but things look a lot less...stiff and screwed up. It's still no hand drawn digital, but at least its a little more fluid.

    And I really liked the B episode about Buster trying to avoid conflict with Arthur. That's the kind of story I like to see. Something realistic and actually what kids, heck people in general have to deal with. No Kate and Pal going on adventures with bad Dr. Who parodies, no songs about countries. Actual things that actual humans have to actually deal with. Friends will lie to spare feelings because they know if they were honest, they couldn't win anyway. The best part is when Arthur becomes offended and annoyed by Busters honesty, when he himself was the one who asked for it. Wow. A relatable episode, rather than a kiddy pleasing adventure storyline.
     
  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I was extremely disappointed with "Fern's Flights of Fancy." The descriptions said that Fern was going to give up writing because she couldn't take the criticism she got over her latest story, and that's not what happened at all: Fern ended up giving up writing because . . . she didn't win a content. How is that criticism? Nobody even told her her story was bad, or that they didn't like it, her story just simply didn't win a contest, so she decides to be a sore loser and not write anymore. That made Fern less of a sympathetic figure in the episode. I really think the story would have played out a whole lot better if it was like the descriptions said: if somebody gave Fern negative feedback about her story, it hurting her feelings, and prompting her to give up writing because of it - that would have been a much better scenario, and would probably paint Fern in a more sympathetic light. But nope. So, as I said, really disappointed.

    "Cereal," despite it's really simplistic and vague title was . . . interesting, to say the least. Definitely a throw-back to the whole snowball incident with D.W. in the past, only this time involving her accusing Arthur stealing her cereal. Buster building a whole podcast around the incident was interesting, especially as we see even Buster is starting to suspect Arthur being the culprit, since evidence was pointing to him . . . that was a subtle throwback to when he tried to figure out what happened to the quarters Arthur left with Mrs. MacGrady, and even contemplating if Arthur really was responsible. Good episode, but not exactly spectacular.
     
  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    First the former Courage head writer, now former Chipmunk writers (from the 80s, mind you) are writing for Arthur now - they wrote today's episode about Prunella being jealous that her mom is spending so much time with Marina, ugh, I mean, the episode about D.W. being jealous that Thora is babysitting other toddlers in town.

    But that episode about Bud learning to tie his shoes? I mean, really, ARTHUR is suffering the same problem that SST's been suffering: gradually becoming a show for younger and younger kids. Bud learning to tie his shoes felt like something we'd see on Barney, not Arthur.
     
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    To me, it wasn't so much about it being an episode about a kid that doesn't know how to tie their shoes so much as it had to be about Bud. I could easily see a shoe tying episode about D.W. or maybe the Tibbles and it working better and being more entertaining, but with Bud, it was just tedious and boring. I'd say the worst episode of the season so far. Then again, I was in a bad mood when I watched it. The one about D.W. and Thora was alright, if redundant. I mean, they still do show that episode about Prunella from time to time (it isn't season 1 after all). It does exactly the same thing, but at least it was sort of interesting compared to "Bud wants boots, so he has to learn to tie them, then doesn't want them."
     
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    There's two other glaring things I have to nitpick from "Bud's Knotty Problem."

    1. Canadian voice actors faking southern (specifically, Cajun) accents. It's not so much the accent that bothers me, it's that there are certain words and sounds that they still pronounce in a more Canadian matter - Ladonna tells Bud to go "oat-side." Southeners say "owt-side." But, oh well. I still remember that episode of BEWITCHED where Samantha was put under a spell and sent back to 1868 New Orleans as a southern belle: the accent wasn't bad, but she still said certain words with a northern flair, like "raw-ther" instead of "rahh-ther."
    2. The glaring animation error! It's one of those blink-and-you'll-miss it moments, but when Ladonna is hanging upside down from the tree branch, she suddenly shifts make further down the branch at one point.

    But hey, what a world they live in that Silly Puddy can copy full color adverts.
     
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  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Oh, and Bud is four, can't tie his shoes, but can use the word "vexed" in a sentence correctly? Makes me think of the joke Tom Bergeron once made about how kids never sound like kids, but thirtysomething screenwriters with a sense of wit and wordplay.
     
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  15. Mr Snrub

    Mr Snrub Active Member

    Am I the only one who was kind of annoyed with Carl's role in the Bionic Bunny special episode from Wednesday? I feel like, despite being true in some cases, Carl's ability to remember the Bionic Bunny special like that was a bit stereotypical autism, which isn't a bad thing, but it just seems a bit below Arthur standards

    Also, the official PBS site released a game commemorating the 20th anniversary. It's a collection of minigames, and most of them are... pretty lame. Like a low-speed, repetitive WarioWare. On the plus side, the whole game is built around items from classic episodes.

    http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/arthur20/

    Which, I mean, I didn't expect much more from PBS, but I remember when I was a kid, they had some enjoyable games. There was a Minesweeper type thing where you had to navigate DW's room without making noise and waking up Kate. Another one was where you played as George, delivering ice cream to multiple Elwood City citizens, and you had to map out the shortest route. They weren't great, but they were fun.
     
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  16. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    I still remember those games very well.
     
  17. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Holy crap, has ARTHUR finally been canceled or something?! I don't see it on PBS's schedule anywhere!
     
  18. Mr Snrub

    Mr Snrub Active Member

    It's still on regularly on my stations
     
  19. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    It's still on my schedule. And if Cyberchase is still going without any advertisements and airing at six in the morning, than i'm sure Arthur is safe for at least another few years.
     
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  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I would venture to guess it's just my PBS, but my PBS adopted a national schedule several years ago, so I don't know what's going on here.
     

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