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Authentic, Fully Licensed, Muppet Replicas Coming!

Discussion in 'Muppet Replicas' started by BigDumbWookiee, Oct 26, 2005.

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  1. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    I argee with everyone here who loves the idea. I've never been to Walt Disney, Smithsonian or the TV muesmue never. If I were to buy this Kermit the Frog replica I wouldn't then say, "I'm not ever going to Disney, Smithsonian or the TV Musemue becasue now I have a Kermit." I would never say that. Even if I had already been to all those places for years I would still go and see it when something new happned no matter what. I know theres ones out there that hate the idea but give it some time.
  2. vaderdentist

    vaderdentist Well-Known Member

    Hi guys........I am a member of the SW Props forum as well........and I gotta tell ya.......I've been a muppet fan even longer than a SW fan!!!

    I'm disappointed that this Kermit might be a statue and not a working puppet, but aside from that.........I love the way that Kermit looks. Sure the flash is probably not the best thing......but overall........no licensed replica has come close to that accuracy. You tell me one product that has the correct Kermit body shape......the correct hands/fingers/feet and overall head shape....even the collar is the right size. I've not seen one close to it!!!

    One of the guys at MR was quoted to have been pushing them for a Pepe down the line......can you imagine if we Pepe fans finally get a Pepe that actually looks like Pepe........or an Animal that looks like Animal and not some weird crayon drawing likeness of Animal????

    I think it's way cool and from what I've already seen at the Fall Toy Fair...........I'm gonna love this Kermit. If you can fully pose him and take pics.....put costumes on him etc etc........ITS A GOOD THING!!!!!

    MR takes alot of flack.......yet not one other Company out there cares as much for the fan base of the licenses as MR. We should embrace this and give them feedback...........they really will listen and actually make changes based on the fans feedback! Ask BigDumbWookie.......he's seen what MR has done with the Star Wars products using the feedback of us Fans! Tell me another company that will even listen.......whether or not they can logistically do what we are asking them to do.

    The way I see it......being a fellow puppet maker, I'm really excited to have the opportunity to compare my own fan made Kermit with that of one that was made using the real Henson patterns and fabrics and stitch orientation. You guys are missing out on a whole different dimension of the value of these replicas. :)

  3. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I'm torn on the issue. Just like I was on the auditions thing--but, then, I heard the voices coming out of that room and they were either spot on or close enough. Everyone I talked to said they went there not just for the job, but to maintain the integrity of the charactes.

    Still if it will uphold the "intergrity of the look and feel" of these MR Muppets then I'm all for it. If it turns out to be a bulb-headed Kermit collectible, I won't be getting it. I have a pretty decent Kermit collection here (odd, huh, since Fozzie's my favorite) and only a few of those items will I brag on really because they really do look like Kermit.

    I'm willing to see what's up, and I am sure that MR will be limiting the production quantity on these. Don't they make these things from the official patterns anyhow?
  4. wes

    wes Well-Known Member

    Ok Let me just add a littile something, this all goes back to Jim Henson, I can not help to think that If Jim Henson Was alive that this Explotation of his charactors would be happening, (thats right I said explotation) the Man (Jim) worked the company up from nothing from his own imagination, creates his own charactor that are apart of him and now they are begin mass produced. Not by the origanal people but from some company lord knows where who Build science fiction replica of the millienum falcon.

    I like to put myself in other peoples shoes, how would they fell about this, how does Jane, Brian, Cheryl, lisa,and John feel about this but most importantly how WOULD Jim feel.

    I told my Wife that when i die that she is to not let anyone voice my characters because it will degrade the quailty of work, that only the original worker can produce.:grouchy: :smirk: :crazy:

    (wes slowly steps off of soapbox shaking slightly)
  5. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    I feel so sorry for you. :sympathy:
  6. wes

    wes Well-Known Member


    I over did it abit didn't I :( :rolleyes:

    My appologies:p
    i hope i didn't offend any one!
  7. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Did you never notice some of the stuff they (JCH) licensed over the years? I mean, there have been some horrible merchandise that looks nothing like the original Muppets. The only reason we recognize the characters for who they are is because we're told, "This is Gonzo, Piggy, and Fozzie." Plus of those 3 have always been hideous. If they REALLY cared about their licensing, those 3 characters' liknesses would have been better on so many levels where the products were concerned. I mean, really, they wouldn't be appearing on candied lollipops and soap--y'know?

    At least this product will be more like the real deal, limited in number as all collectibles are, probably half of us here at MC won't be able to afford it anyhow (not without some sort of credit card, which I don't have) and as far as the integrity of the product, it looks like to me they're using the real pattern from the company.

    Whatchoothinkin, eh? :smirk:
  8. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    No. You didn't. I'm just saying about you not wanting someone else taking over. Jim would of wanted that but if thats how it is with you it's fine. Charles Sulze (how ever its spelled) didn't want someone taking over his strip when he passed away. So I can see it. Hope I didn't make you feel bad. We have our own opinion.
  9. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Don't post things like this in the future, please. It could be offensive and start some flaming. There are better, more diplomatic ways to share your opinion without coming off as rude. Your help in the future will be appreciated. PM me if there is a problem. Thanks.
  10. vaderdentist

    vaderdentist Well-Known Member

    How would the Henson family feel......

    I'd be willing to lay odds that Brian and his sister had to agree to allow Disney to produce such replicas when he signed the contract for the Disney-Henson merger. Disney has always been into merchandising and Henson Co. knew it before signing the dotted line.

    My point is that if you are gonna produce a decent likeness of these favorite characters of ours...........MR is the folks to pull it off and ultimately protect the integrity of the original characters. They have done so with the Star Wars and Lord of the Rings licenses............I don't expect any less from them with the Muppets.

    Let's see what they end up with........before we criticize what "might" go wrong.

  11. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I agree. I cheered Muppets Wizard of Oz, but when I saw it on TV it wasn't what I'd wished for, but seeing it on DVD it's exactly what I hoped for. It's very good.

    This can be surprising as well.
  12. wes

    wes Well-Known Member

    Point taken....no offen taken either

    true love to all the puppet people:p

    Let Me calrify I like the Movies, its the puppet replicas that idon't really care for.
    I think that the best post -Jim Henson Movies was treasure Island.
  13. BigDumbWookiee

    BigDumbWookiee Well-Known Member

    I know many of the people behind this project, and I know their love and passion for Muppets (and for Disney, and for Star Wars and all the other licenses they work on). I see this Kermit replica as a loyal tribute to what Mr Henson spent his life creating. Kermit is a living character on his own, and a product of this calibre really captures the essence of Muppetdom.

    I have a mini bronze statue at home of Walt Disney and Mickey Mouse, it's based on the statue in the Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney World. It's Walt standing, holding Mickey's hand, pointing into the horizon. I own it, because it's a tribute to another brilliant man who dedicated his life to creating magic for people of all walks of life. I see the same thing in this Kermit replica. It's a respectful tribute to a character and the man who created him.

    Sure, it's the responsibility of any business to make a profit, but the folks at MR got into this because of their passion and dedication to entertainment, and the tangible pieces that make it so real. MR is dedicated to its fans, and listens very closely, and always does what they can to respect the wishes and vision of the vast majority of their fans.

    I'll bet the shirt on my back that Kermit will be one of the most successful pieces Master Replicas has sold.

    And we're not talking about huge production numbers. This is PURE speculation, but I bet we'll only see about 1500 - 2000 of these. I dont know the price either, but I see them priced at a level where those purchasing it will treat it with dignity and respect, and will cherish it as a keepsake of something that represents a major part of their life.

    Unfortunately, we'll never know how Mr Henson would have felt about this, but I think in this day and age of consumerism, and the impact licensing and products sales has on the life of a property, he would have supported a quality item such as this, that maintains the dignity of the property, and breathes a bit of financial support into it as well.
  14. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    The next trouble for me after funding it is gaining a big glass box to keep him in for display.
  15. BigDumbWookiee

    BigDumbWookiee Well-Known Member

    I'd highly recommend CasesforCollectibles.com. They make a wide range of cases, and will make cases in just about any dimensions you offer. I had (had being a very subjective word in this case) to get a case for my Sauron replica helmet, and they were able to quickly create one for me. The cases is around 3' tall, and about 18" square. If they can make that, they'll definitely be able to make you a case for Kermit. I wont lie and say they're cheap, but for the quality of their cases, the pricing is very respectable.
  16. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Cool deal man.

    I know a lady at a local glass company. Wonder what she can work out for me there? They do windsheilds, specialty glass for homes and such. I bet they could do it.

    But, of course, this is me putting the cart before the horse. The dang thing hasn't even started selling yet!
  17. BigDumbWookiee

    BigDumbWookiee Well-Known Member

    The cases from CFC are acrylic, so you'll definitely save coin over a glass case. Lighter weight too.
  18. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Cool, thanks!!
  19. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    Sorry Kevin. I didn't mean it to be rude. Thanks tho for pointing that out for me. I won't have anymore comments like. Nothing aganist it at all.
  20. Stulz

    Stulz Well-Known Member

    You need to find yourself a Palisades Mini Rainbow Connection Kermit.
    It is perfect.

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