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  2. Sesame Street Season 49
    Sesame Street's 49th season officially began Saturday November 17 on HBO. After you see the new episodes, post here and let us know your thoughts.

Baby Bear

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by BEAR 2, Jan 6, 2018.

  1. BEAR 2

    BEAR 2 Well-Known Member

    Forgive me if this has been discussed already, but can we talk about Baby Bear? Does he still appear pretty regularly on the show? I feel like he doesn’t pop up quite as often anymore. Correct me if I’m wrong. He’s such a great character.
  2. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    It seems as of late Baby Bear is getting less screentime, though they have been focusing more on the Two-Headed Monster.
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Yeah, certain Muppet characters like Baby Bear and Telly to a lesser extent are being seen less and less these days. There was a big shakeup a couple of years ago with Sesame Workshop overhauling its staff - many of their new staff members having come from Viacom - and part of their agenda was to reduce the number of characters appearing on the show to what they called a "Core Six," as most other preschool shows tend to have a small number of main characters of just three or more. Said "Core Six" consists of Big Bird, Oscar, Elmo, Abby, Grover, and Cookie Monster: that doesn't guarantee that all of these characters will be seen on the show in every episode, but that they are the six characters who you are most likely to see in any given episode. Of course, that also doesn't mean that other characters have completely gotten the boot either: matter of fact, Count, Ernie and Bert, and Rosita still appear quite frequently as well, and other characters such as Baby Bear, Telly, Prairie Dawn, and Zoe are still around, they're just being seen less and less.

    The human cast, meanwhile, has officially been pruned down to Alan, Chris, and the newest addition Nina. Sonia Manzano officially retired a few years ago, and all the others are no longer on the series proper, but are still involved with other Sesame projects outside of the show.

    As for Baby Bear, I really like what David Rudman has been doing with the character since Season 30 onward: prior to that, I found Baby Bear to be a rather annoying character: always whining and complaining about Goldilocks, always having tantrums whenever Goldilocks would show up, it was almost like an obsession with him - not to mention, like Kevin Clash's early Elmo, early Baby Bear had that gritty voice that could be quite irritating. But since Season 30, Baby Bear has become quite an interesting and fun character: he and Telly make a good pair, both have their moments of childlike qualities that test their friendship, but Baby Bear usually also tends to be the voice of reason between the two. I also enjoy the occasional little one-liners that Baby Bear will zing, such as the time Telly accidentally hurt him and tries to distance themselves as much as he can to avoid doing it again, to which Baby Bear tells him he would like to go back to playing together in close proximity, "at least within the same zipcode."
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2018
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  4. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it is a shame Baby Bear is such an underrated character. In season 46, I think he only had one cameo and that was it. No one seems to even bring him up. Plus, I don't think i've ever seen him make guest appearances on talk shows like all the others (even newer characters like Murray, Abby, and Rudy) have.

    I always thought it would be interesting if they teamed him up with Prairie Dawn, given their introverted tendencies, the fact that they're both somewhat precocious, their appreciation of art, and the fact that they're often more serious compared to their friends. There's also a lot of family related topics they have yet to explore that I think would be perfect for his family, given that's his whole shtick.
  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I also remember before Lulu became a character, they attempted to break down gender barriers by having him be a cheerleader along with Zoe and Rosita on occasion: complete with a uniform and pompoms and everything.

    I've been thinking though, and I'm curious, but has Curly Bear been seen in recent years? I can't remember the last time I saw her on the show, but being amazed at how fast she was growing by walking and talking (albeit in baby sentences) in such a short amount of time . . . well, short for typical age-defying fictional characters (unlike Natasha).
  6. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    The last time we saw Curly Bear was in season 44, right before Baby Bear was demoted.
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I've seen very little of 39-45, so that explains it, heh.

    What about Papa Bear and Mama Bear? Seems like I recall even before then, he actually made a switch from his favorite derby to a more contemporary fedora.
  8. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Well, in more recent years Papa Bear seemed to appear a lot more than Mama Bear, although I guess it's always been like that to a certain extent. I think the last time I remember seeing her might've been in 2009, but don't take my word on that. Papa Bear, on the other hand usually appeared once or twice per season through season 45.
  9. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    I'll be honest,

    I was never a big fan of Baby Bear.... His voice is really straining for me with that speech impediment of his.
  10. BEAR 2

    BEAR 2 Well-Known Member

    What speech impediment? Isn’t he from Boston?
  11. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
  12. BEAR 2

    BEAR 2 Well-Known Member

    Seriously, though, I see what you’re getting at. It doesn’t bother me because a lot of kids talk that way when they’re young. Not sure where they get it from but 2 of my cousins and now my nephew kinda does that R and W thing. He just sounds like a kid.
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

  14. BEAR 2

    BEAR 2 Well-Known Member

    I love Baby Bear’s little one-liners too. He seems to have quite a vocabulary, which is hilarious. In some ways, he kinda reminds me of Linus—a bit of a know-it-all with a speech impediment. Only B.B. is more comical.
  15. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Snowth, come down to New England so we can make some good ol clam chowdah.
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  16. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    And have some lobstah and beeyah.
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  17. mbmfrog

    mbmfrog Well-Known Member

    In the season following 30, it helped out Baby Bear as a character. When they also paired him up with Telly, it helped out both characters and became better secondary character to the overall Sesame Street family.

    So Yeah, I enjoy episodes when Baby Bear is the focus.
  18. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Baby Bear was pretty much defined at first by his relationship to his fairy tale and Goldilocks bother him. The more they took him out of that context, the better and funnier he became.

    I can get why they demoted him to semi-regular; if the characters they're pushing now are the most marketable, Baby Bear is just a bear, nothing really distinct design-wise about him in order to sell merch.
  19. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    The fairy tale context always made Baby Bear's existence (as well as his family, for that matter) within the Sesame universe a little . . . unconventional for me to believe? I can't really think of any other way to put it, but I mean, all of the other Muppet characters are original to their universe, but Baby Bear is an already-existing character (and I suppose fairy tale characters are public domain).

    Then again, I supposed it's not entirely unbelievable, considering the street has played host to a number of spastic fairy tale characters over the years - but somehow, Baby Bear was the only one who seemed to work as part of the regular Muppet family.
  20. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    How much are y'all honestly willing to bet Baby Bear would have originally been a pumpkin orange AM bear had he debuted much earlier in the show?

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