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Behold... the New Teen Titans Cartoon...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Drtooth, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    ...Spoiler... it's going to suck. :rolleyes:

    I can take they wanted to make it a comedy show, I can take they're tossing everything away that made the original series special, I can even take the loss of Young Justice and Green Lantern because Frog forbid they have 4 DC shows in production at one time. But really? That animation, if I can even call it that, is the laziest, cheapest, 1998 web cartoonest thing I've ever seen. I've seen some really terrible flash before, but this takes the cake. It's not even Aqua Teen Hunger Force so stiff it's funny stiff. It's cheap and terrible. They could at least have sprung for the usual Korean stuff they used for the DC Nation shorts.
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    They look like chibis.
  3. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I agree, I could totally deal with a comedy show, but I just can't get behind the animation.
  4. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    That was painful...

    Although I do think the original show could get too dark at times. But I think this is overkill with the "comedy."
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I HATE the designs... It's some recursive Westernized Easternized Westernized style. It looks like they want to be a Tatsunoko Show stylized T-shirt design, but they don't grasp the subtlety. But it's all to streamline production with the aforementioned frag-terrible animation. I wouldn't mind if it looked like this:

    Those were the shorts this show was supposedly inspired by. They used the same animation, they threw in some nice little fan bits (one has the Titans captured by Red X, and Beast Boy keeps guessing his identity as Jason Todd). But those shorts weren't meant to do anything but be fun side gags that last a minute. That was balanced out by other shorts, including the much more deserving of a show, Kyle Baker inspired Plastic Man.

    The original show was brilliant for being a mood rollercoaster. It kept switching from dark and light like the show had multiple personality disorder and was bi Polar. That's what made the show great. You tune in one week, and see Robin struggling with Slade, then next time Beast Boy is fighting sentient Tofu... and even the comedy episodes can be dark themselves. This looks like a Mucha Lucha ripoff. I honestly don't think the comedy shorts can translate into 22 minutes or even 11 minute shorts.

    And it could all be forgiving if they at least attempted animation. Young Justice was partially cancelled because they're major freaking cheap skates and full animation costs money. That's painfully obvious with this motion tweened to high heck garbage. I see a lot of Flash cartoons on television, and this is by far the worst I've seen. At least tied with Doodlebops Roadshow for laziness. Then you have Bob's Burgers, Superjail, My Little Pony, Martha Speaks... shows that look as much like a real cartoon as possible. What CN should do is wait a year, go back to Korea and have them reanimate every episode so it doesn't look like a DVD menu.
  6. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    From what I've heard, Bob's Burgers actually switched over to traditional animation starting with season 2.
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It did? Then again, it is possible to traditionally animate with Flash. It does deal with frame rates. Most internet cartoons these days (good ones, anyway) will traditionally animate in flash.

    But there is no excuse for the animation to be this bad. I don't care how on the cheap WB wants to make it.
  8. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

  9. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Is it really that big of a spoiler to say that this series will suck? It'll suck huevos. It'll suck Bigfoots. It'll suck whales. It'll suck Wookiees.
    And that means the other series, Beware of the Batman will probably suck as well if made by the same company, which considering CN's cheapskatery wouldn't be out of the question.
    Add to that the hype they're putting into a "NEW!" season of Johnny Test (epic fail!) they want to push down our throats.

    Those DC shorts don't do much for me... Storywise they're stupid, except for the unfinished Adventures of the Atom which was good.
    At least CN still has "good" shows like Adventure Time and Regular Show with the occasional movie thrown in. :sigh: Animation just idn't what it used to be.
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Beware the Batman will be animated in a similar fashion to Green Lantern. CGI, which is actually quite impressive looking and probably one of the most fluid looking series out there. All indications are this is going to be a good Batman series. They're delving deep into the mythology of the character and not stooping to using the famous characters. I'm actually quite excited for it, even though they're going to have to use 1980's style cartoon guns to be overly sensitive to something that happened almost a year ago.

    Teen Titans, however... I really did like the DC animated shorts. They managed to be funny and canony and they kept the original, wonderful FLCL style animation. I don't mind a humor based series, but one that's been overly redesigned to look like some recursive Western version of an Eastern version of Western style. Like someone's trying to ape Panty Stocking style and failing. The new preview animation is less choppy, but I think we at least deserve the same quality of animation as the DC shorts.

    Plus... and I'll say this the million billionth time. If they wanted humor so bad... uh, maybe Plastic Man? Dude got screwed out of a cartoon series in 03, hasn't had one since the 1979 series.

    I'm just more annoyed about Young Justice and Green Lantern getting canceled because they didn't sell toys. Mattel did their usual wonderful high price low quality over packaged figure job with YJ. But then again, the show was doomed from the beginning due to Greg Weissman being the Charlie Brown of animation and none of his shows lasting (Gargoyles and Spectacular Spider-Man, which they fired once the second season finished production, so it couldn't have been saved by Disney). But Green Lantern is worse. It undid all the damage the movie left, and it didn't even get a toy line because Wal*Mart over orders movie merchandise, and acts like a chicken with its head cut off when movie merchandise doesn't sell. So it never got a cartoon line up.

    Johnny Test is made on the cheap and gets a LOT of Canadian Tax credits. Therefore, I'm not surprised that CN can get it so cheap. They're going to run the heck out of it because the price is so low. It's like how Reality TV works. It only really had one good season back when WB was behind it and Scott Fellows wrote for it. How it was able to be rescued by Crappy Jar, I don't know.

    Still, I do like Dukey. And Mr. Teacherman. Just let the thing die.
  11. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Agreed, they need to let JT die. And while we're at it, someone line up the guilliotine to fall on IC. Or as I call it, the Unwatchable Incrappable Poo. (*Bonus points if you recognize the jingle sung there).

    Gargoyles at least got a third season, even if they want to call it "non-cannon".

    Because it's Batman, I'll watch the premiere, especially if I've got nothing else going up against it.
    YJ should have lasted longer though it feels like some half-conclusion with the team being part of JL now. And I have to give them points for the first appearance made by Static since the JLU two-part episode that leaves Bats and Jon Stewart going to the dawn of time.

    The only thing I'm at least somewhat anticipating on CN is Total Drama 5 or All-Stars, or the second half with another batch of new characters.
  12. tutter_fan

    tutter_fan Well-Known Member

    Wish they'd bring back some of the older cartoons like Johnny Bravo, The Powerpuff Girls, and Dexter's Lab. Those were hilarious!
  13. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    They have, it's called Cartoon Planet and airs exclusively on Fridays at 8 PM EST.
  14. snichols1973

    snichols1973 Well-Known Member

    I actually like how Green Lantern: TAS takes place in the deep frontiers of outer space where they explore new worlds and civilizations (a la Star Trek's "five-year mission"), and make it into something new, as contrasted to the olden days when the traditional battles would be the GL Corps vs. the Sinestro Corps. Instead, they make better use of the power rings' color spectrum: Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and sapphire, representing the respective emotions of rage, avarice, fear, willpower, hope, and love, although we'll just have to wait and see if Indigo/Compassion makes its debut next season....

    The Teen Titans: Go series sort of reminds me of the time CN produced the Transformers: Animated version of the franchise, since TFA was like a younger, spoofier version of the original series that gave the characters more dimension with their refitted personalities, and Ratchet's character was like a grumpier Autobot version of Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy from the original Star Trek....
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    JT goes all the way back to Kid's WB. The only show they saved on that network was that one. And it was on at least 2 or 3 seasons before they sold the line up to 4Kids. Meanwhile, Spectacular Spider-Man was homeless in this country for an entire year and got canceled in the second season. At least it wasn't Loonatics that got a new life on CN. I'll take Johnny Meh over that travesty any day.

    There has never been a bad Batman cartoon. Not in my opinion at least. Even the 1970's Filmation one with Batmite being Proto Orko. Bats is the biggest money maker in the DC universe, and he's had more success with cartoons than any Justice Leager... even Superman (who's always a one or two season wonder, except for live action TV where he excells). Half the complaints I heard are that they're giving Batman another show instead of another DC character who, let's face it, wouldn't even get a full season. A Flash cartoon would be great, but I don't see it catching on.

    I'm much more annoyed about GL than Young Justice. YJ at least was 6 episodes away from a production cap anyway. There's some grand refusal to let cartoons go over 52 episodes unless they're really really popular and lucky. Why they begrudged them 6 more episodes (they so could have tied everything up in 6 episodes), is byond me. But GL... Grrrrrr.... They just lifted the Bat-Embargo on Sinestro, considering they were withholding him because of a movie they were never going to produce. It really deserved a second season and a full 52 episode series. Wal*Warts didn't want them to make a toy line, they're the same reason why Transformers Animated was cancelled (they were pushing the over order of crappy Michael Bay movie merchandise and didn't want a single TFA figure on the4 shelves). People have very political reasons for hating Wal*Mart, but they're worse than that. Their crappy little cubby hole of a toy section kills TV shows. :grr:
    There's no comparison. TFA was allowed to go into dark places, they had a big and semiconsistant continuity, and generally, the show worked on that level. Mainly because it was a welcome antidote from the live action movie series. Not to mention Weird Al as an Autobot. It wasn't trying to imitate any other TF series, while making a lot of callbacks at the same time. Even redesigned Sentinel Prime to look like The Tick when they found out Townsend Coleman was to do the voice. It was a fan friendly show, but the G1 heads refused to accept it, even though it was a pretty good series. I don't see the TT show being the same. It is trying to be the 2003 series, but removing everything special about it except for the VA's. There IS a lot of comedy in DC comics, why they had to turn TT into wacky kiddy time is beyond me. What I want to see is an Aquaman series based on the Batman Brave and the Bold interpretation of the character. THAT would be a better show.
  16. Lola p

    Lola p Well-Known Member

    I kind of want to see a series based on the Super Best Friends shorts Lauren Faust did. It was fun and well animated... It almost reminded me of PPG.

    And onto Teen Titans Go: I honestly screamed a huge NO when I saw it... It's basically a mockery to the original Teen Titans Series....If you want to make a comedy based on the titans, fine. Just don't do it in the same continuity of the original show! If you want anything like the original show, BRING THE ORIGINAL SHOW BACK. We still needed a good arc on Starfire, because if memory serves, we got one on everyone else but her.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    This thing's going to be on tonight, so I guess I'll find it somewhere tomorrow morning.

    I agree. At least with Beware the Batman, the show's intentionally different. I can't state enough that I'm on pins an needles for a series where Batman doesn't face Joker, Penguin, or anyone famous (they had enough screentime... the Joker was a center point of merchandise in the last series, despite being in a handful of episodes... he didn't even show up till the end of the first season). But Teen Titans Go is intentionally wants to be the original series with some squished down stylized humor replacing virtually everything that made it great. It's basically a gag OVA made into a TV series... and somehow, I just think in the back of my mind... someone wanted to do a Tiny Titans show and got shot down.

    Basically, the fans of Young Justice and Green Lantern are ticked that those shows were dropped, and this is the series we're getting, even though it's not technically a replacement, and Teen Titans fans are ticked because they deserve a true series comeback. There certainly were a LOT of DC nation shorts that would have been better as a full TV series than this. And the producers and voice cast swear we're going to like it.

    At best, I want to be proven wrong and find some small level of enjoyment in here. But Teen Titans the original series (well, the 2003 series... the actual original series was from Filmation all the way back) seems to have been much better and funnier than this kiidy adventures stuff.

    Now, if you want a show like the real Teen Titans cartoon, I suggest the Nickelodeon TMNT. Why, Mikey is voiced by the same VA as Beast Boy.
  18. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    If they were going to do this why didn't they just make it in the Tiny Titans style.... O would have loved to see them in Art Baltazar's style at sidekick elementary school with Principal Slade and Darseid the Lunch Lady...and Lobo as the gym teacher....
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I don't see why they didn't go for that, since it's their clear intent. Though, I must say I've never been a fan of that comic. Still, it would be a forseeably better cartoon than this.

    I still hope to find some enjoyment in it though. Still wish they at least kept the original anime/FLCL style animation.
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I just watched it... how do I explain it? Since it's a Muppet site, I'll use Muppets.

    This is me watching a regular comedy cartoon series, say Fairly Oddparents...

    This is me watching the new Teen Titans cartoon...


    And to hammer the point home...

    FraggleFrick and Bliffenstimmers like this.

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