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Big Bird's Voice?

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by trekkie1701E, May 12, 2003.

  1. trekkie1701E

    trekkie1701E New Member

    Okay ... I am watching the end of SS now, and Big Bird suddenly sounds different!

    Did he finally hit puberty or something? :) His voice is obviously lower. Where is Carroll Spinney?
     
  2. Aaron

    Aaron Active Member

    well he is 69
     
  3. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Active Member

    It could be Matt Vogel . I think he's the one that does Big Bird, but i only thought it was for the J to Erine skits, i don't know much on this subject.


    Zack)Rowlf the, i don't know much on this subject, Dog.:)
     
  4. And, being 69 years old, he still performs Big Bird, except in the Journey to Ernie segments (where Matt Vogel takes the role).
     
  5. trekkie1701E

    trekkie1701E New Member

    Correction: it was during a skit in the middle of SS, not the end. It is very wierd to suddenly hear Big Bird's voice lowered; I wonder if many younger children watching the show notice it much.
     
  6. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    Yep. It's Matt Vogel in JTE. I watched that segment the other day. I think that voice sounds almost exactly like the voice Carroll used to do for Big Bird in the first season. (See what all you learn from listening to Muppet Central Radio. Lol.)
     
  7. trekkie1701E

    trekkie1701E New Member

    Alright, there's my problem; I need to listen to more MC Radio!
     
  8. scarecroe

    scarecroe Active Member

    Matt's been spotted doing some street scenes as well where he sounds even more like Caroll thanks to the material contrast from JTE.
     
  9. ssetta

    ssetta Active Member

    He does a little bit sound like the old Big Bird. But Matt Vogel's voice I can't stand. But I think the reason why Caroll changed his voice in 2 years is because people couldn't stand Big Bird's old voice. To be honest, I thought he kind of sounded like Barney!
     
  10. trekkie1701E

    trekkie1701E New Member

    To be honest, I don't know if I can ever get used to this "new" Big Bird. His voice is just too strange. And if Carroll retires or, God forbid, dies, will Matt take over? I bet there are tons of other voice actors/pupeteers out there who'd be better suited. No offense to Vogel; he just doesn't fit the bill.
     
  11. jeffkjoe

    jeffkjoe New Member

    I have to disagree.

    Outside of cloining Carroll Spinney or making him younger, I think Matt Vogel does a great job in capturing th essence that is Big Bird.

    I'm a fan of the much older Sesame Streets, so it's nice to hear the Big Bird of yesteryear come back.


    Aren't you glad that they have an understudy to carry on the life of Big Bird?

    By the way, if you're gonna be in town this weekend, Carroll is coming to sign his book in San Jose, Saturday, May 18th at some mom/pop bookstore. Check the Children's Museum of San Jose website...I think I found the info there.
     
  12. trekkie1701E

    trekkie1701E New Member

    Really???????????????

    Was this date just added?
     
  13. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    I hear very little difference between the voices. I think Matt does a great Big Bird. When I first saw JTE, I didn't really know it was a different person. And it's much better then letting the character retire if Carroll Spinney does. Now if only Matt can try doing Scooter on the new show. I heard he does a great Scooter.
     
  14. Aaron

    Aaron Active Member

    it's too high it sounds girl'ish
     
  15. scarecroe

    scarecroe Active Member

    Brian does a fantastic Scooter and I hope he continues to do so ;)
     
  16. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    I agree. I just wanna hear what it sounds like. Maybe Matt should take over Janice though. Unless of course Brian can do some more practicing and get that voice down. it would be nice to have Brian do at least those 3 characters on the new show, Sal, Scooter, and Janice. He also does some good background characters.

    Does anyone know if Brian ever tried to do Kermit? He and his father have a similar speaking voice, I think.
     
  17. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Well-Known Member

    To be honest, Matt's voice kinda bugs me too - but overall I think he does a fabulous job as Big Bird. Anyone who takes issue with minor aspects of Matt's performance should check Carrol's early work - remember he's had 30+ years to refine and perfect Big Bird.

    Oh, and Trekkie I actually don't think there are too many people who could actually do Big Bird that well. That is a very hard part to perform just from a technical standpoint - never mind worrying about character and voice.
     
  18. Hays

    Hays New Member

    Funny - this is becoming a thread about recasts.

    Just want to remind everybody that toughpigs has a really good lists for those "that voice sounds funny..." itch. http://www.toughpigs.com/extrarecast.htm

    I have to say I'm not a fan of recasts in general...think of Mr. Rogers and Charles Schultz's take on retirement.

    However, there is this to be said : Kermit Love, who designed most of the classic Sesame Street muppets, died years ago. No designer since has captured his vision. If you don't recast, the look of Sesame Street will slowly change completely - and the original designs are timeless, as they can be re-created over and over.

    I also think they've been doing a pretty good job of recasting - but every puppeteer is going to bring a little of him or herself to every character. It's a little odd to have them right next to each other, like with Matt Vogel and Caroll Spinney (how DO you spell that) because you will see the differences. But I'd hate to think that children in the future will never get to know Big Bird at all.

    After the original puppeteer retires, and the new one has a few years to really create the character, it won't seem so glaring...and the kids will love the new version as much as the old.
     
  19. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    I think it's a good thing to have both the original and the alternate on the show at the same time. It makes the transition easier I think. You get use to both voices, and lets remeber, most children watching this show will not watch it for more then like 5 years at most. So, new viewers probably don't even notice a difference.

    I do agree that this is much better then having Big Bird and Oscar retire into storage. That would just be awful. Big bird IS Sesame Street.
     
  20. trekkie1701E

    trekkie1701E New Member

    Technical stuff ... from this aspect, you are correct. I wasn't thinking about that part, I guess.
     

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