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Can we do something about posting for posts sake?

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Drtooth, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I really don't mean to be rude or call out another member, but...

    http://www.muppetcentral.com/forum/threads/follow-that-bird-behind-the-scenes.51855/#post-902648

    This member has a history of bumping old threads and replying with "I agree" with NO conversation added. Just 2 word non-objective posts for the sake of posts.

    Now, this member replied in the aforementioned thread with an "I don't" to answer someone's question. Not an "I wish I could help you, but I can't. I'd love to see that too." Just an "I don't" that serves nothing to the conversation, and probably annoying the person who asked in the first place.

    Can we have a rule that at the very least encourages people to give reasons why they agree or can't help?
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  2. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    He's getting better, though. it was a new thread this time. :rolleyes:

    Now before this turns into a "Let so and so pollute the board with ok's and yeahs. Not letting him do so is bullying" argument, a conversation, even a muffined one, involves CONVERSATION. That's when you have one person say something and the other person either agrees and gives a reason or disagrees and gives a reason. "Ok" and "I don't" are head nods.

    Plus, it's VERY rude to answer an internet board question with an "I can't help you" anyway, and it's just more polite to let the questions go unanswered. But just an "I don't"... any other board would pile on the member and call him out for such shenanigans. And in very hurtful language too. Thankfully we don't stoop to that here... but thread bumping and head nods are a nuisance, and the member clearly has no reason to be here. His stuff is spam level.
  4. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I honestly do not think this member gets it. A few of us, myself included, have already told him to not post simple "I agree" "I do" "I dont." and whatnot unless he has something valid to contribute :/
  5. Vincent Liu

    Vincent Liu Well-Known Member

    I agree.



    Seriously now, why can't the members understand what we're talking about and stop posting pointless stuff?
  6. catherine

    catherine Active Member

    I would post a reply if the conversation was interesting but I wouldn't do something like that as I have been on lots of forums, myself, where people do that.
  7. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Yeah (I'm kidding)

    But in all seriousness though the person who made that post is gonna get excited thinking someone has what she's looking for and she's gonna see "I don't."
  8. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    Excactly, when I get the alert that someone replied, I get very excited and rush over to that thread, only to find "I don't".
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  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That's what's rude about it. It offers no help at all and DOESN'T need to be posted.

    it's not even a "I don't, but I wish I did." or "I don't, but I know someone who could" or even a polite let down as in "unfortunately, I can't find anything."

    Just an I don't...
  10. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    That's why if I can't help someone on what their looking for I just don't say anything because it's already happened to me. Not on this forum but on other forums I'll go and ask if someone has any information that I'm looking for and I'd get all excited thinking they had it and it usually was just "I'm sorry" or "Nope." So yeah that is annoying.

    By the way I don't even know if the person is a "she" or "he." So excuse my last post if your not a "she." Lol.
  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I ate onions for breakfast.
  12. Vincent Liu

    Vincent Liu Well-Known Member

    Healthy diet.
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  13. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I think some of these 'simplistic' posts typically result from those who aren't totally familiar with the way discussion forums work. It seems to me that certain posters think of Muppet Central as a Facebook chatroom.

    I've actually been wanting to bring this topic up myself, as it has become rather annoying. I haven't seen 'simplistic posts' on Muppet Central, or any discussion forum for that matter, until very recently. Back in my day...er I mean when I started to join discussion forums, we didn't have texting or Facebook. Now that we do have these advances (really not the term I want to use here, but hopefully you get my point), simplistic replies have become much more easier, and therefore much more common.

    Maybe we should remind people the difference between "discuss" and "chat". I really don't mean to be rude to anybody who has a habit of "posting for posts sake". For all I know, maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree.
  14. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I think the main issue that needs to be addressed is where it is appropriate to post "chat" and where it is not. Obviously there is no real discussion going on in that Crazy thread, just stupid chatting with short posts. There is a place and time for short, posts, and there is a place and time for discussion. I don't think we need any kind of arbitrary rule where you must post X words or it is considered spam. It just really needs to be addressed when and how it is appropriate to bring up old thread, and when and when it is appropriate to post short, stupid things.
  15. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Sorry guys I understand what you're saying but I stand where I was before on this. It's nearly impossible to legislate the "proper" way to post and I don't like singling people out on an open forum. I know no one is trying to hurt anyone's feelings but this kind of thing just ends up building up more and more. It reminds me of when I was in middle school and a teacher decided to have a "trial" where the kids were encouraged to discuss which kids annoyed them the most. It wasn't productive and ended up with a lot of hurt feelings. If we have a problem with members that's supposed to be what the report button is for. Or we just don't have to read posts we don't like.
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  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The problem is, said member didn't do it once or twice. Said member has a history of the same behavior or drudging up old posts and posting head nods with nothing to add to the discussion.

    But to reply to someone's question with an "I don't" isn't just unhelpful, it gets the original thread poster a false sense of hope when there's a new reply.

    So there are 2 problems here.

    1) the original problem. Bumping threads as old as 5, even 10 years old without any news or conversation. It's annoying with some threads, but it's down right frustrating when it's a thread about an old, abandoned project.

    2) Answering questions no one asked him specifically just for the sake of posting.

    Now, problem one can be solved easily by deleting threads with no activity for 5 years (though that's bound to be a huge headache to the mods). But the other problem is hard to deal with. I'd say the only way to deal with repetitive impolite internet behavior like that is for a mod to directly address the problem to the member, and if it persists, they get either a stern warning or an all out ban.
  17. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Erm... We don't need to go as far as deleting old threads when locking them closed will suffice just as well, but since what you're proposing is a time-lock for when a thread has gone without an additional reply for five years after the last post made, that would have to be something taken up with Phillip as he's the one who tinkers with the forum's computer coding. The only threads I would say should be exempt from such a time-lock are fanfics in order to allow authors to come back and complete unfinished works.

    As far as the member in question... We have already cited them for this behavior in the past, and if it happens again, they will be duely notified and dealt with accordingly.
    Thank you all for your concerns as it helps us moderate more effectively.
  18. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I don't think old threads should be deleted.
    But what should happen is, if a member bumps up and old thread with nothing productive to say, then that member's post should be deleted, which should take the thread off the What's New page.
    Locking a thread becuase it's old is no good help. What if I have something that I want to add to it? If a thread is to be locked becuase it's old, you might as well just delete it.
  19. CaseytheMuppet

    CaseytheMuppet Well-Known Member

    I agree.



    Haha. JK. That is always annoying. When I see a thread like that, I expect something grand, and then, its like, why did I just waste 30 seconds on this. :grr:
    Muppet fan 123 likes this.
  20. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I dont see whats wrong with a sticky explaining forum etiquette. Many forums have rules about when and where you can post certain things. Its not like we would be any different.


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