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Courage the Cowardly Dog returning?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Schfifty, Jul 23, 2014.

  1. Schfifty

    Schfifty Well-Known Member

    You're sure it's not this purple dinosaur?

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    But yeah, that's kind of surprising, especially since Courage's tone is more darker and edgier than the other by a mile.
     
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    It's amazing how small the world really is when you realize there are these bizarre connections. I'm sure Craig Shemin came to write for Courage because maybe he and Dilly crossed paths when Dilly was doing Noodles and Nedd for SST and Ace and Avery for Big Bad. As for David Steven Cohen writing for Arthur now, heh, like Drtooth said, if we could only get an episode where one of the Elwood kids is taken over by an Al Capone-esque talking foot.
     
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Dilly finally posted a teaser from his upcoming short GOOSE WITH HIGH HEELS:



    While this isn't his first time using Flash, this is his first all-Flash short, and just looking at this brief teaser makes me wonder: if one independent animator, with little experience with Flash, can churn out something this fluid smooth, how is it actual Flash studios with actual budgets that produce animated shows for TV still have cold, stiff, and robot animation? Well, I guess it's like Drtooth has said: it's clear these studios, like 9 Story, rely way too heavy on library models and poses and such, and if you've seen Dilly's WIP videos, you can see he's animating this short as if he was drawing/animating by hand.
     
  4. Moonslayer

    Moonslayer New Member

    Do you have the name/link for the "Heads of Beef" music? I've been looking all over for it.
     
  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    So we finally get to see what the Dirdy Birdy sequel would have been like:



    Dilly's child-like excitement and enthusiam as he tells the story just cracks me up.
     
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  6. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Sometimes I worry about what goes on in John Dilworth's head.

    BTW, this should really get animated. It looks even more hilarious than the first one.
     
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
  8. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Finally got the Season Three DVD, and I'm reminded how lazy Warner Bros. is about DVD releases: once again, they didn't even bother to do any kind of menus, it looks beyond unprofessional - even my commercial DVD recorder can do better-looking menus.

    I expressed my wish for special features for the Season Four set on Stretch Films' Facebook page, and even Dilly seems interested, and suggests writing into Cartoon Network to let them know . . . though, knowing CN, I doubt they'd go for that. After all, the Johnny Bravo set only had special features because of Seth MacFarlane.
     
  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Here's the animatic for a new pilot Dilly recently did for CN:



    Now, here's how much working with networks today sucks: first of all, this wasn't even Dilly's original concept - the network forced him to make a ton of changes (including radically redesigning the title character from being slightly overweight), and after all was said and done, they still decided not to pick up and air the pilot because they said it was "too weird."

    "Too weird"? I'm sorry, have these network people even seen Courage?
     
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    And you hate when things go to Netflix.

    Thing is, it was always like that, but with that new edge of "kids don't watch TV anymore." I don't see why this couldn't be internet content (not so much netflix, but more like CN's Mighty Magiswords), other than budget reasons. CN clearly has no desire to have more than a few shows in production at a time, and something tells me they'll use every excuse in the book to not get another series picked up until several of them end. Given the fact they screwed over Uncle Grandpa so badly, not to mention their Scooby-Doo and Wabbit cartoons they fell over themselves to promote.

    Now CN has had a lot of trouble when it was revealed that they refuse to make cartoons that girls would like because girls don't watch cartoons (no thanks to everyone still thinking it was 2005 Disney Channel...seriously, *&^% those shows), and that's why every DC comics based cartoon besides TTG was dropped like a rock (and the fact the toy lines, if any, Suh-diddley-ucked). I wouldn't be surprised if that was the only reason PPG got the "reboot" (it's a freaking continuation and we all know it). To try and mend fences with girls, but using something recognized and established. Something new would probably scare away viewers (bullcrap, since by all logic every cartoon they greenlit is "too weird," Cow and Chicken especially) and probably not generate a crapload of merchandise they couldn't get a toy company to produce.

    Yet, toyetic shows like Transformers and Sonic Boom are shoved off into death slots. Guess if they don't get a slice of the merchandising pie, they don't give a crap.

    And I reiterate...this is why more cartoons are going to netflix and the like. I don't think any of the small amount of kid's networks (there are more ESPNs...and they're all losing Disney money) would touch any Dreamworks cartoon series, especially Voltron. And given how Nick treated DW's shows (Penguins and Kung Fu Panda yet have episodes to air despite being wrapped for years), I very much doubt they'd want to screw with network interference again.
     
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  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Both network and Netflix have their share of cons, and in Netflix's case, as I say, not everybody has the service because not everybody has home internet, so even if Netflix is willing to offer producers more creative control than networks are willing to offer, the major con is that only a fraction of the public masses is going to see it. Even now, a lot of people out there still don't have cable, let alone HBO, hence the nontroversy over SST's move to HBO when it was always meant to be easily accessible for kids of all walks of life can view (even though some people don't seem to understand PBS will still get the new episodes - totally for free - on a 9-month delay).
     
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That's the sad Catch 22. And often times it's a matter of having anyone see it at all over not being able to sell to a network. Sure, some of Netflix's animated kid's programming is just reruns or international programs that air on regular television in their home countries (Inspector Gadget and Danger Mouse for example). Then again, you could also make the inaccessibility case for cable, but a good deal of those shows do get released on DVD as well. And I'd say, while not everyone has the internet and not everyone who does have the high speed packages, more people have internet than not, and more people have internet than cable. Though a good deal of that is families realizing it's too darn expensive to have both when they don't really watch TV as much.

    Still, the state of cartoons on television is always one step forward and two steps back. Blah blah blah M.C. Scat Cat joke. They certainly are making more cartoons now than 10 years ago, but depending on the network you get a block of selected shows (CN), shows that they seem to sabotage so they don't have to compete with live action programming or popular cartoons (Nick), or bury them on a sister network that's only available in the second, pricier price point cable package and then wonder why the ratings are so low (Disney). And to be fair, yes these networks all offer their shows online, but only unlockable if you subscribe to the cable packages that have them. I can see why the Yokai Watch company went to Netflix as a secondary source of exposing the show, considering that XD is such a hard channel to actually get. And that obscurity hurt our only chance to bring Doraemon (who in Asian and Latin countries is ubiquitous, China and its native Japan especially) over here, not to mention keeping the Pac-Man and Xiaolin Showdown revivals from being popular (both are on netflix now, actually). And really... Yokai Watch was the thing that was supposed to overtake Pokemon. It's the first time since that where we got a kid's anime toy commercial that was actually successful in Japan.
     
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Here's the animatic for Dilly's other Prudence pilot, and this one is apparently more along the lines of his original vision for the series, as well as Prudence's character design (though he still wanted her to be chubbier).



    Both are interesting, but I think the other Prudence pilot did a better job at illustrating that these monsters we're seeing are really Prudence's deep insecurities and her battles with them; this one isn't too clear on that, which makes it more confusing. The content, on the other hand, is more akin to Courage.
     
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Seems they just stopped airing several Courage episodes a day on Boomerang, but on the bright side, it's replaced by late night reruns of Dexter's Lab.
     
  15. Schfifty

    Schfifty Well-Known Member

    I kind of wonder if Courage will ever make a miraculous return on its home channel again like it did last August, but I bet it most likely won't happen. Good to hear Dexter's Laboratory is back on Boomerang again after being buried for so long...I thought its days on television were nearly over.

    And I also echo what PL says about the Dirdy Birdy animatic. That should so be a finished cartoon.
     
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Dilly really can't seem to catch a break right now. Both PRUDENCE AND THE IMPS pilots never made it beyond animatic because they were "too weird"; he's got another animatic pilot on YT called CHUNKS & CHOOGLE (a.k.a. DUMB MONKEY ISLAND) that he worked on for five years, but never happened due to personality and management conflicts; then of course, there's THE DIRDY BIRDY sequel that will never get made because his Kickstarter campaigned fell far below the goal. Here's at least hoping his GOOSE IN HIGH HEELS short will go better, since he's got at least three different fully-animated previews on YT right now.
     
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    And after Dexter's late night block on weekends, Billy and Mandy apparently. I really hope this means Boomerang is at least considering a rival to Teen Nick's "The Splat" with older CN shows. They also used to have Chowder, but that disappeared off of weekends months ago.
     
  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Dilly's been posting more WIP videos of GOOSE WITH HIGH HEELS, but here's another sample he posted today that, once again, brings to mind this point I made months ago about how it's a shame that TV standard Flash animation can't look as good as this:
     
  19. Luke kun

    Luke kun Well-Known Member

    barney vs dino now
     
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  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Saw a new Courage shirt at JC Penny. Didn't get it though, since they weren't on sale. It's strange that CN/WB is marketing the character like that. Not unwelcome, but strange.
     


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