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Dad hears a "racial slur" on Fraggle Rock

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by Oscarfan, Nov 11, 2011.

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  1. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Ugh, not picking on you but I hate that phrase. :p

    And yes, I'm aware I'm the one who sounds politically correct now. ;)
  2. MrBloogarFoobly

    MrBloogarFoobly Well-Known Member

    It was more of a comment on how much of a loser this guy is. Seriously? A news crew comes to your house to interview you about something stupid, and you dress like a fat slob?
    frogboy4 likes this.
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member


    The fact that the Hub is editing it shows the lack of a spine they have. They clearly could have said "That's not what they said at all, and editing it out wouldn't make much sense, and then make us look guilty of something we're not." Instead they handled the whole ordeal as "AAAAHHHH!!! Don't write another letter to us! That would be 2 letters! 2 letters equals 2 trillion letters in the TV complaints world! We'll do it! We'll do it! Please don't hurt us."

    I say we write our OWN complaint letters to the Hub asking them not to edit the show due to the complaints of one lone wacko with a hearing problem.
  4. MrBloogarFoobly

    MrBloogarFoobly Well-Known Member

    JHC is being equally weak willed about it. Since when would Jerry Juhl write a racial slur into a script? When would Jim Henson, who said that the very purpose of Fraggle Rock was to "Bring world peace," and was friends with Harry Belafonte allow a racial slur?! Seriously, this is ree-dawnk-ulous. Don't back the network, JHC. Stand up for your ****** legacy!
    dwmckim, frogboy4 and heralde like this.
  5. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    If there's even a hint that a network could lose money through bad publicity, they get nervous. It's always been that way.
  6. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I think these kinds of complaints, if they happen, often come from a relatively small handful of people. Most people are too busy with their lives to freak out over a TV show. But because the networks freak out so much, the complaints appear bigger than they are.
  7. Gonzo's Hobbit

    Gonzo's Hobbit Well-Known Member

    I thought the article was saying that JHC backs the Hub's interpretation of the script in that it was "Gee Gobo" not that it was backing the editing of it out.
  8. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Fraggle Rock's mission was to destroy the chains of racism, bigotry, divisiveness, and to promote peace and friendship. Understand, and song. Im surprised they didnt complain about the "minstrels".

    Here's the main problem: hardly anyone got to see Fraggle Rock in the 80's. Another reason there will never be a movie: who is the audience going to be? Poor people like me, especially inner city and lower income household kids never got to see the show.
    You had to not just have cable, but HBO on top of that. Had it been on a regular station, infinite more people could have seen it and been touched by it.

    Tho, the reason I kind of like this story is because it cheers me up knowing a new generation of kids are watching...so thanks Hub!
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Yeah. I forgot we're dealing with a kid's show and how anal retentive parental groups can get. No candy commercials, no this, no that. The bad PR from a bunch of overbearing nimrods (with good intentions... but we know what is paved with good intentions) kills everything.

    Still, I find both Hub and JHC weak to go to the defense. Did Sesame Workshop ever recall those Elmo toys that sorta kinda sound like they're saying something? I mean, other than the one that contained lead paint? Though they always weakly apologize for everything... even though in the old days they stood their ground on diversity and the fact the Count is a parody character.

    The fact they corrected this is no better than Disney correcting the knee in The Little Mermaid because someone said it was a..... you know. Half of those are rumors spread by college frat boys.
  10. LamangoNumber2

    LamangoNumber2 Active Member

    In his defense, it was dirty.
  11. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Exaclty. This is the same reason why we hear odd things in songs. Depending on how well or not so well someone enunceates something, we can hear something totally different from what is being said because, as Zeppo said, the mind fills the word in with syllables to make it sound like something.

    Also, if you tell someone that is what is being said, that is what your gonna hear until someone corrects you. My friend thought in one of the last lines of "Your Gonna Go Far Kid" Dexter was saying Lullabies. After I pointed out he was saying Lord of the Flies she heard it correctly and couldnt understand how she got Lullabies out of it.

    I'm surprised no one hs mentioned it yet, but why on earth would they record the show using a video camera? That just guarantees bad sound quality. Why did they not ask Hub for the clip itself to play?
  12. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    You'd think that since it's his daughter's favorite show, he'd know the names of the characters and then assume he said "Gobo."
  13. ZeppoAndFriends

    ZeppoAndFriends Well-Known Member

    Even with the poor sound quality, I can make out the line just fine. I don't get how the guy could possibly be hearing a long 'o'.
  14. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    That makes too much sense for it to have actually happened.
  15. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Me neither, but its still kinda illogical to record the show with a camera.

    But remember, not everyone is familiar with Fraggle Rock. It goes back to what I was saying in my last post where the brain will hear what someone tells it to hear. Clearer audio may make a difference to those not familiar with the show
  16. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    It's interesting how the father said if there's nothing wrong with the clip, why are they editing it? By editing it, they're making themselves look guilty. It's like when people are payed huge sums of money in court cases. It doesn't always mean a crime was actually committed. Sometimes it just means the accused party just doesn't want to deal with a court battle.
  17. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    This would make a hilarious episode for Simpsons or South Park. all the PTA, parents, etc are outraged over a new show that allegedly has a dirty word, all because of someone who hears something wrong and starts up a meme and petition.

    But yeah, this makes me kind of upset...the first time FR gets publicity in the news and its something like this. Why would any kid show made after the 1930's have a racial slur?

    At least with Looney Tunes they didnt try and hide the racism
  18. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Well so far I don't get the impression this became a huge news story. Mainly because Fraggle Rock isn't a popular current show like Teletubbies or Sesame Street (which also got in trouble for alleged bad words).
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It wouldn't even bother me half as much if the PTA really behind it. It was some overly sensitive slob and a religious figure he whined to. I hear a LOT of things in cartoons and TV programs that sound like something else, only to find out that the line was mumbled, delivered poorly, or I'm in a completely different room at the time. I was watching this old Mr. Men cartoon online and the line was "Every morning, Mr. Skinny rushes into the bathroom to weigh himself." "Weigh" sounded like something else I can't mention. Did I throw a fuss and complain to someone about how it's glorifying... well... to kids and telling them to do what they aren't doing? No. I laughed at the silliness of what it sounded like they were saying, then I laughed about how silly I thought it was if it really WAS the line. Then I laughed about being silly myself.

    Taking lines out of context is fine for Youtube Poop... thing was FOUNDED on that ideal, making Robotnik say the name of a certain body part he really didn't say on purpose. But taking lines out of context in a TV show is something people would do for a stretch. Gee Gobo doesn't even sound like that other word I've never heard before in my life. Everytime I hear a new slur, that's all I can think about BECAUSE of how highly inappropriate it is. I'm sure a LOT of people learned a racial slur from that story, and it sure the heck wasn't from Fraggles.
  20. Great Gommzo

    Great Gommzo Member

    The most absurd thing about this story is that Jim Henson created Fraggle Rock because he said he wanted to, in his own words "do a show that brings peace to the world." Fraggle Rock is about different species living together and having to get on with each other. The story is ridiculous.


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