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Did anyone else wish that Miss. Piggy was cut out of Muppet Movie?

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by Movies205, Jan 2, 2003.

  1. Movies205

    Movies205 New Member

    I got Muppet Movie for christmas and I haven't seen it in a while so I pop it in and it instanly rekindle my love for the muppets but every part with Miss Piggy made me want to jump up and strangle her. Kermit the Frog should have kick her fat-*** out to the curb.
  2. Gonzo

    Gonzo Active Member

    You certainly have violent feelings towards my piece of sweet bacon.

    I thought she was great in The Muppet Movie, but even better (of course) in The Great Muppet Caper, which was very Piggycentric. She had some great lines, and was completely in character in The Muppet Movie. Not to mention her berry nice song "Never Before, Never Again."

    If you don't like here there...do you like her at all? Of course it's fine if you don't, but....she's an awfully big part of the Muppets...

    Quinnnnnnnnnnn
  3. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I love that chubby pig!
  4. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Oh, when I see Miss Piggy in those new Muppetisms, or on the talk shows, Dennys commercials, Weezer, etc...I keep thinking 'man, she looks better than ever!'

    I hate to say, when I look back at early TMS season Piggy, the Frawley Screen test, etc...Piggy looks rather grotesque, like something out of Peter Jackson's Meet the Feebles. I hate saying that...as around TMTM she finally got her more modern look and hasnt looked back since. Go to Palisade's Muppet site, as they have a newer picture of her...she looks great! And is flipping us all off, wheee! hehe

    But to hate the pig? Ack! Yes I think she looked attrocious in the 70's, but thats just because they were experimenting with styles.
  5. Gonzo

    Gonzo Active Member

    I think she looked her best in The Great Muppet Caper, and her worst in The Muppets Take Manhattan. Pigs and Perms should NEVER mix.

    Quinnnnnnnnnn
  6. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member


    Not to sure she looked good juxtaposed against the backdrop of bourgious high society fashion faux paus early 80's London;)
  7. Gonzo

    Gonzo Active Member

    She looked a heckuva lot hotter than any other woman in that flick...except perhaps Diana Rigg, who's always been a hottie. But the three flatchested henchwomen of flowered sock man? Come on, Cory.....

    Quinnnnnnnnnn
  8. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I like Piggy from the Muppet Show (she had so many looks), but Great Muppet Caper Miss Piggy is my favorite look. She really was only grotesque in the first Muppet Show season and hit her prime by the third season.

    I'm so glad someone else hated that Manhattan perm too. You know, I think that knocks half a star of the picture for me. LOL!

    I think Piggy looks best in the new Christmas special (except as the homely cat lady, of course). Just something classic about her look. But was anyone else disturbed by the missing (or tucked?) right ear when she wore the hat in the Moulin Scrooge number? I almost added it for the menu.

    After Manhattan, Piggy started looking rather matronly. Remember the 1993 trading cards? She looked like a 40something friend of Barbara Bush. :eek: (Nothing against the former first lady. She's just not the cutting edge diva that Piggy should be). I don't know why that happened. Her short straight platinum bob doesn't help much. It's a nice look, but she was trapped in it for too long. She broke out of it a little in Muppets Tonight.

    I just most like the pig with long hair with a bit of curl in it. Don't ask me why. :confused: :D
  9. Gonzo

    Gonzo Active Member

    I always thought that when Piggy's ear was missing that it was just tucked under the hat...but there was a Today Show appearance in 2000 where she had no ears whatsoever....that was bizarre!

    Quinnnnnnnnnn
  10. Except, of course, Janice.

    Dude.

    She SUNBATHED.
  11. Yeah, I agree---why say she looked horrid during ALL of TMS? :confused:

    She looked GREAT in the last few seasons, with the long, blonde hair with a little curl/wave in it---my sister also loves that look the most, and SOOO wanted her hair to look like that when she grew up (it doesn't---it's shorter and darker).
  12. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    True. But man I dont wanna say this...but a couple weeks ago I rented Great Muppet Caper(one of only a few Muppet dvds I dont have) and I...wellll...you know that feeling some people have during KSY or most of MFS? Um...yeah....but I did love the Muppets in the double decker at night scene(WOW!!!!! Astonishing to say the least!) and the infamous bike ride scene. But the look of the early 80's high fashion thing in London makes me wanna puke. At least we finally got to see Kermit and fozzie's dad in Very Muppet Xmas(or was that Fozzie Grinch?) My main problem with GMC is that it basically just stars the main 4(Kermit, Gonzo, Fozzie, and Piggy), A LOT of human only scenes, that bumbling Grodin, and nary any real good screentime for the supporting cast. Plus all the 'hey, its only a movie!', 'hey, were in a movie', 'wink wink, nudge nudge, its just a film!' stuff...yikes.

    Now, I hate to say...but nothing beats Modern Piggy.

    http://www.action-performance.com/muppets/images/piggy.jpg

    While Season One Fozzie isnt nearly as shabby as Season One Piggy, he comes in quite close. The thing with me is current, freshness with the Muppets. Like fine wine, they just seem to look better with age. That's why henson, palisades, and other promo related shots mostly tend to use the newest looks.
  13. That's funny, cause Janice has more screen-time and dialogue in this than any other Muppet film...

    And I'm with Quinn---nothin' beats GMC.
  14. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Um...did you miss a memo? They do that in ALL of their films. TMM - the kept speaking to the camera and referring to the screenplay. GMC (you already mentioned). MTM - Kermit gives a nod to the camera before he marries Piggy. MCC - Gonzo and Rizzo refer to the audience and speak directly to them throughout the film. Sam bumbles his line (in an incredibly funny moment) "It's the American way---British way" with an aside to the audience. MTI was filled with anachronisms and other such nods. Can't pinpoint exact scenes in MFS, but it was all about mugging for the camera - especially the opening song. That's all the film really had. Maybe you are seeing edited versions of these films. The Great Muppet Caper made the most use of it, but not really all that much more than the others. When you think about it - entire episodes of the Muppet Show don't make sense because musical numbers will take place partially or entirely off stage and out of view of the audience. The Muppets have always given a nod to the audience. They are all about mugging for the camera and I love it! :)
  15. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    Reply

    Wow. I didn't notice we didn't have an official Piggy thread yet. We had Kermit, Fozzie, Gonzo, Rowlf, etc. Anyway, I can't really comment on the season 1 Piggy because I haven't seen any episodes with her so I don't know how she looked or what Richard's Piggy sounded like or anything like that. But I definately like her the way she is now. Definately the best female Muppet. Frank Oz has done a terrific job with her. I especially like her "Never Before, Never Again" song. I do have to agree with something Frogboy said though. I didn't care for how she looked in TMTM. That curly hair style didn't work for her.
  16. Re: Reply

    Third only to Mokey and Janice.

    :p

    ;)
  17. Movies205

    Movies205 New Member

    I have no problems with her a Look but certain times she just get real annoying like for example the whole kissy thing, I think kermit should of kick her out cuz she left him to do some commericial lol. While I thought she was pretty funny and cool in Muppet Caper(the part where she on a and some parts in Muppet Movie. Sometimes though I think she gets annoying and I think they made her overly annoying in Muppet Movie but that just my opinion.
  18. ryhoyarbie

    ryhoyarbie Active Member

    ya i like piggy but she can get annoying at times. i suppose thats why the rest of the muppets like to make fun of her especially the members of the electric mayhem. she does get old after awhile cause she wants the spot light to much. but thats how her character is. as far as piggys look, i never liked her perm in the 80's either. she kind of looks like sally struthers with that hair style..

    for those of you who don't know who sally struthers is, she played gloria in all of the family, the archie bunker show.....

    ryan
  19. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    There is mugging for the camera, little winks to the audience...then there is just gag me with a rubber chicken.

    Remember Elmo In Grouchland? How they would actually stop the film for Bert and Ernie to tell ther audience it is just a movie? Why must they insult people's intelligence?

    Ive seen TMM and MTM too many times to count, but it doesnt come even close to the aggregiously nods to the audience that GMC does. Plus it is just an ugly film
  20. sarah_yzma

    sarah_yzma Active Member

    yeah a very opinionated thread....i personally liked piggy....just my opinion....man i think i got through this post without cynical remarks, better stop now....

    Sarah


    WHERE WOULD KERMIT BE WITHOUT PIGGY?????


    sorry couldn't resist...sarah


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