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Editing Posts...

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Redsonga, Aug 29, 2008.

  1. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    I am posting this as an honest plea:
    Is there anyway we could have it to where we can edit posts we make without any sort of deadline?
    I know I am a newbie, I know I should just keep my big mouth shut, I know we have three hours to edit posts (sometimes it is as little as an hour to me) but honestly...

    This is the first forum I have ever been on ever with this "rule" and I am nearly beside myself with my dyslexia and spelling troubles that I cannot spot sometimes until just after my 'time' runs out.

    I know mods can fix things, but honestly, I don't want to trouble mobs (who have bigger things to worry about) or pay them etc for honest mistakes that I could, on any other forum, edit myself:o....

    I know this was most likely done for a good reason but to me, the good that one can do with the ability to edit just your own posts far outweighs the bad..And if people do bad with it, that is what mods and banning is for, the bad apples always make themselves known one way or another...

    But these forums don't seem to have as many of those to began with, thanks to the anti-troll screening when they first become newbies :).
  2. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Well... I do know that the Creatus Maximus forum run by former Palisades honcho Ken Lilly (bit of a more adult crowd running there, so if you sign up for membership just beware at your own risk) has both no filter nor post editing deadline. If I made a post a year ago, I can go in and still make any changes to my own post where necessary without troubling the people running the show or silently cursing my own mistakes. Of course, we need the filter here... But since both websites' forums use the VB system, it might be something worth looking into. Though that'd have to be something for Phil the administrator, since that behind-the-scene coding is done at the home base.

    Hope this helps somewhat. *Hugs to Becky/Songa.
  3. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Well, I, for one, side with Redsonga on this. I wouldn't have to rewrite my fics as an entirely new thread if I could have just worked on the existing ones. I also have instances where I don't catch something until later (even previewing it). In fact, sometimes previewing makes it worse, because the littlest thing tends to send in that awful u201D thing that I can't stand.
  4. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Plus, as Becky did point out, it would be easier on moderators so people could fix their own mistakes.
  5. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I agree. I've never really mentioned it, but the time frame has always bugged me.

    And it would prob ably be easier on the moderators. And the mods wont be bugged for every little thing wanting to be edited...
  6. Bill Bubble Guy

    Bill Bubble Guy Active Member

    I think this is a good idea also. It has my vote wholeheartedly.
  7. Aaron

    Aaron Active Member

    I too support this idea.
  8. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Thank you, I am so glad so many people agree with me :). I just think that overall it would help us make our posts the best they could be :).
  9. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I'm afraid I'm gunna have to put forward another side (not that we're taking sides...or are we? *grabs pitchforks* Wait...what was I saying? Oh yes!) The issue is that once someone has posted and everyone's replied to them...If they then go and change the original post, suddenly all the following posts are pointless for someone reading the thread without having realised that there's been edits.

    Someone could say one reactionary, cause a stir, and then change it to something innocent later in the day (or week) and everyone else could end up looking like they are trying to start a fight over nothing. (Not that we EVER start fights...*sharpens said pitch forks* ...ahem...)

    Or, with fanfics, once someone's commented on a certain scene, if later you were to decide to cut the scene or move it, the conected comment would be null and void and confusing.

    Even little things like spelling and grammer (Sure, I'd love to go back and fix up my first few weeks here at MC when I had teRible spiLlgn...), if something is changed at a later date...it could make things very illogical for anyone who maybe replied with, say, the correct spelling of Bovegard...I mean Beauregard...
  10. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    I think I remember a feature on some forum I belonged to once that kept a copy of a post so a mod could override an edit :\ I could be wrong..But if it was the sort of topic that got heated I think mods would take some action before it got made into an editing war (or if it did they could see it had been editing and when...I still say plenty of forums (actually all the others I belong to) have no time limit to editing and they have not all melted into an internet verison of WWIII yet :p

    But really, if it was just used for the fanfic section it really would not be that bad if you put a little note saying you had spell checked it as of so and so and thanked the people for pointing it out to you. I don't know anyone who reads spelling edits as a part of posts anyway, really reads them, besides the author who cares deeply for the writing part of the story, it is much more common for readers to skip over replies to get to the next post of the storyline anyway IMHO :concern:...
    And in the 2nd place putting spelling edits as a part of your replies is not common place here anyway:coy:
  11. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Hehe...Good point.

    As long as someone were to make a note of the edits they did, yeah, it would make sense.

    I just have that tiny itch of a fear that once we have the power to edit, by Gosh, we'll edit. Hehe!

    Bea:zany:{But did I include this in my original post? Kidding ya ;P}regard
  12. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Well, if no time limit to editing was something they were not use to (even though I don't know of any other forum online that has a time limit) of course someone will try to play with it, but if they are that sort of person they will get bored of just using it for fun very quickly IMHO :excited:
  13. TogetherAgain

    TogetherAgain Well-Known Member

    But why make sense when it's more profitable to make dollars? <Ahem> Sorry. You know I can't resist.

    Yes, you did, because as of yet there is no little italicized note at the bottom of your post saying "Last edited by Beauregard at such-and-such time and date." :halo:

    I can certainly understand both sides of the argument, especially with those frustrating u201D codes that tend to show up... But I personally tend to lean more towards the side of Beau's earlier post. I personally haven't been to too many other forums, so I haven't seen the never-lose-the-editing-option in practice...

    I do think it would be nice to have more editing time, at least in the fanfic section... I can't begin to tell you how many times I've noticed some spelling or punctuation error in a chapter immediately after I've lost the ability to do anything about it, or the day after the post...

    But I would request that a person who starts a thread could have at least an hour to edit the title of the thread! If you make a typo in a thread title and don't catch it until you hit "Submit new thread," well then, too bad. That's why we all spent many, many weeks enjoying "Vic Romano's Weekly Ceative Visuals" before a moderator noticed/had time to add in that missing letter R. :p
  14. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    It works, it works very very well..In fact, I have never as of yet seen it be used for any bad reason :).

    But really, just because more people here are not use to having editing always open does not outweigh all the good it could do IMHO...I see being able to edit my stories as being able to show how much love and care I put into putting my best writers foot forward against my learning disability for all to see :). Wanting that feeling should not mean I have to sell my first born to a mod, who has other things to do, to edit for me :\. (Most of all when their feeling seems to be 'oh we don't/don't like to edit because a few people got mad at us because misspelling was their 'style', freedom of expression, etc"). It sure isn't my 'style' *lol* Unless we are talking about characters speaking...
  15. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Wait a minute, we are selling children on this forum? Good heavens! :attitude:

    Bea:zany:{What's the going rate on a first-born these days? ;)}regard
  16. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    These are the main reasons there is a limit to the edit time. Before we had time limits this was an issue on multiple occasions.
  17. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Well, it seems a bit silly with regards to the fanfic section where I think it could only help ones writing:)
  18. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Well if the editing time was changed, it might be for only a few more hours to avoid the issues discussed above. It’s always a good idea to re-read your posts immediately after they are posted to be sure everything looks and sounds the way you intended.
  19. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    I do, but because of my learning disability I miss things even then until hours and hours later..I really know that I'm not alone in this for what it is worth...
    Anyway, I don't want to start a debate *sigh*:sympathy:. It's obvious that you had a few bad things happen, but I just thought I would chime in and say that most forums do have the ability to always edit, and although there are one or two bad apples it really has not reduced any of them to flaming piles of words, and I have been a member of one for seven years:excited:...
    So I really think it could work if you ever turn it on again:)...
  20. Convincing John

    Convincing John Well-Known Member

    I agree with the "fanfic edit feature" if it could happen. (Jabs thumb back towards my fanfic in another thread).

    Believe me, I read my chapters about 3 times over (in Microsoft Word no less!) before posting and still there's some errors that sneak through.

    Any way we can fix 'em after the time expires?

    Convincing John

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