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Eyebrows that move - any ideas?

Discussion in 'Puppet Building and Performing' started by zoetrope, Apr 13, 2004.

  1. Show and Tell

    Show and Tell Member

    I really hope your wrong. Maybe some of us will rediscover the tricks of the trade and carry this art on. I don't know that it should be common knowledge but IMO real success is having a successor.
  2. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Well-Known Member

    People have lives, they get busy or have other more pressing things than MC. It's just life. I wouldn't speculate too much or assume anything.
  3. ScrapsFlippy

    ScrapsFlippy Member

    Jim Henson Creature Shop.

    And you're absolutely right!

    -- Scraps
  4. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Well-Known Member

    The Creature Shop doesn't build the Bear costumes though right? I thought they had a strict line drawn between them and (whatever is left of) the Muppet workshop.
  5. zoetrope

    zoetrope New Member

    Eyebrow update

    Well, as fate would have it, I was shopping in a thrift store (looking for puppet supplies) and Sesame Street was on one of the crappy TVs they were selling. And there was Bert singing to Ernie (?!?). They had a long closeup of Bert and you could definitely make out the thin thread attached to the middle of his eyebrow. Actually there were two, one going up a little, and one going down a little, so it could be moved either way. I assume that inside the puppet this is a single thread attached to a loop on Oz's finger. Maybe there's some sort of simple pully in there too. Also, at one point the eyebrow was moved and you could see the material near it bunch up just a little, making little wrinkles. :(

    So the moral of the story is, get out to the thrift store more often :p
  6. Show and Tell

    Show and Tell Member

    OoO OoO I just love stories with a moral ending....That was a good one:crazy:
  7. You know you're in bad shape when the thriftstore has a more hi-definition TV than you :( I had never been able to see the fabric wrinkle up! That's awesome, and it would seem to make things a whole lot easier.
  8. zoetrope

    zoetrope New Member

    As far as the wrinkling goes, I should note that this was only noticeable in the extreme close up of Bert. Even in the regular close up it was not noticeable, but in the XCU you could see the slight gathering/wrinkling of the fabric under the lower thread. Come to think of it, I think his eyebrows were going up when I noticed this (it didn't last long) which would mean there's not only some sort of pulley inside the head but a spring or elastic creating tension on the whole loop of thread, or the thread is tight between two pulleys.

    Actually the TV had a pretty bad picture, the contrast was set way too high, but I think this made the wrinkles stand out more than they would have on a decent set.
  9. Show and Tell

    Show and Tell Member

    thats just what happens when you get old.:(
  10. ScrapsFlippy

    ScrapsFlippy Member

    Well, I can't vouch for that. But There are JH Creature Shop labels sewn into our Bears (we have 4 - hope that doesn't "spoil the magic" for any kids out there.)

    --SF
  11. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Well-Known Member

    I know at one point they had a strict line between the Creature Shop and the Muppet Workshop - that started sometime after some of the early Creature Shop series in the UK like Mother Goose Stories. The feeling was that the CS was starting to tread on the Muppet's turf so someone decided that they should stick to creature stuff while the Muppets did the cuter, more "Muppety" puppets.

    But now with the NY workshop supposedly shut down (or not depending on the report) and moved out to LA it would make sense if they've combined the two. I've seen a lot of press in the past year or so that identifies the Muppet Workshop as "Jim Henson's Creature Shop". I assumed it was just the media getting things mixed up, but now I start to wonder.

    Hmm...


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