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Ghostbusters 3 finally on the way? You decide!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by frogboy4, May 20, 2009.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Those three are undoubtedly in. I'm very disappointed Rick doesn't want to work anymore, but that's his choice.

    We're going to have to have a "Pass the torch" movie, though. That's what the original actors want, that's what the writers want, that's what we're going to get. I don't see a movie where the older actors are in the same capacity they were 30 years ago. Indiana Jones tried it and failed on that level, even lampshading the concept of the film series being picked up by his son.

    Passing the torch is hardly even a new concept. Extreme Ghostbusters did it. Even Filmation did it with their Ghost Busters, a decade before EGB. If done right, I can see that working.

    Besides, if anything else, changing it up doesn't put the movie at risk of being a remake of Ghostbusters, or even Ghostbusters 2, which was quite a deal of "getting the gang back together." A GB 3 would be that without a new class.

    What I want to see is a plotline where the Ghostbusters were in business all this time, but are getting increasingly (as Murtaugh of Lethal Weapon said) too old for this [stuff]. The big break up before GB2 worked more or less, but I like how it completely contradicted the cartoon where they were ALWAYS in business. The movies refuse the cartoons ever exist, while the cartoon took everything that happened in the movies into canon. The nerve of GB2, right?
     
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Okay, the rumors have finally turned into preprepreproduction plans.

    Just Don't expect this to be Ghostbusters 3.

    While the idea of an all woman team doesn't bug me, the idea of it being a reboot does. I was kind of hoping for the girl team to either be mentored by the surviving Busters or inspired by them and sharing the continuity of the original films.
     
  3. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    I'm mixed on this. It sucks that it's a reboot instead, but then again, making a Ghostbusters sequel right now with only three of the Busters would be as crazy as making a Blues Brothers sequel with only one-- *does best Mr. Plinkett impression* Oooohhhh. :p

    But I've heard that any of the surviving members might make an appearance if they're willing to dust off the Proton Packs one more time.
     
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  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm willing to accept the fact that no matter what they do, no one's going to be happy with it. But what I'm annoyed by is the fact the fans wanted a GB3 so bad that they continuously egged everybody on, even though they wouldn't have been happy with the result. I'm glad the video game was well done enough to get a good reception and acted as a stand in for the third film. Long held over sequels to films, no matter how much work goes into them, rarely get a good reception. When it happened with Tron, it annoyed the heck out of me, since Tron was mainly famous for not doing well.

    That said, I don't see why they can't have a loose enough connection to the original that it's an intercontinuity semi-sequel. Best case scenario, I liked the idea of a next generation GB with the original Busters as mentors, even though they already did that with Extreme Ghostbusters. Which I honestly don't get the hate for. It was a well done show, kept continuity to the original series, and even toned down Slimer to his season 1 personality. The show was actually better than the second half of the original series! They should have done a punched up, live action version of that.
     
  5. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'd be more pumped about this film if it wasn't for one thing. Not so much it's an all female group. I applaud that. Not because it's a long delayed follow up film, though those usually manage to have massive problems.

    It's that it has to be a reboot. A total continuity reboot when it doesn't have to be. There's talk of even having the surviving actors cameo as other characters.

    Now, if it were my film, first off, I'd replace Kate McKinnon with Aubrey Plaza. Maybe get her to play a less goth version of Kyle Griffin. But what I'd do with the plot is to have the original Ghostbusters long retired, but they licensed their brand out for franchising. I'd see two of the women being struggling science professors who are about to lose their jobs due to cutbacks and for teaching weird paranormal based classes. Taking a chance, they buy their city's franchise rights to the Ghostbusters with the last money they have, purely based on Melissa McCarthy's character's weird premonitions. Ones that Kristen Wiig's character is slightly skeptical about, but plays along because she feels this is the long mental slide of Melissa's character, being under-appreciated in her scientific field. No sooner do they open the struggling business as a gathering storm of a ghostly plague starts to trickle into their city. Overwhelmed, they hire the other two women in the cast, and either a surly or obliviously idiotic young male intern to take the Janine role. One of the new employees being a frustrated inventor/tinkerer who redevelops the original Ghostbusting equipment and acts as a younger version of Egon. Maybe one who was a huge fan and read all of his scientific publications.

    Along the way, there would be room for cameos from Ackroyd and Hudson in the form of how too and "welcome to the Ghostbusters LLC family" videos.

    At least, something like that.

    That said, the casting is solid. I'm glad that, while she was considered, Cecily Strong is no where near the cast of this thing. She's painfully unfunny in everything she does (Girlfriends Talk Show especially), so much so that they replaced her with someone from The Daily Show in the Weekend update. And it made all the difference.
     
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Now this is getting complicated...

    Apparently, there's another Ghostbusters project at Sony, one with the traditional male cast members and headed up by Akroyd. Just with younger actors like the one of the original GB3 concepts.

    Now I'm totally confused.
     
  8. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Either way I'm not interested! :p
     
  9. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member


    Welcome to the long and confusing road of production development heck that GB3 has gone through. There's a very excellent article chronicling the entire run at FilmForce, you'd have to search for it though as it's no longer on their front page of current headlines.

    Waiting to hear from Big Kev/Da Foz on what he thinks about these updates.
     
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The funny thing is, both are being considered. It may just be a race to see which one gets to the wire faster, or ... uh... both could very well get made. Everything up to this point was actually less confusing. Which is saying something.

    Still fail to see why they just don't make an animated DTV with the animated series voice actors.
     
  11. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    An animated DTV movie with the original voice cast? That could work... And we could get Bill Murray involved in the franchise again like he originally wanted. And it should be pointed out that not only would Bill Murray took over Lorenzo Music's well-known VA role as Garfield after Music's death, he would be reclaiming the character he originated in the live-action movies that Music took over from him in the animated series.
    Talk about life imitating art imitating life. :concern:
     
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I dunno. Ramis is gone, and he'd need a replacement voice actor. Besides, the video game served that exact purpose. I'd love to see a Real Ghostbuster DTV project somehow. I have to admit, some of the mythos in the cartoon (at least the earlier, more mature seasons) was pretty good, and better than some of what we got in the original sequel.

    Not as much of a disconnect as the Men in Black movies vs the cartoon series which had waaaaaaay better concepts than the entire film franchise. They already did the time travel bit better in the cartoon with the crazy xenophobic human who time jumped to kill all the MIB founding members, all the while MIB got smaller and less advanced. Loved the third film, but seriously... cartoon did it better.
     
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Remember how I was always wondering why they didn't do a DTV Ghosbusters animated movie? Well, surprising news today...

    Sony is working on an animated Ghostbusters film

    Other than that announcement, no details on if it will connect to any GB continuity, let alone being The Real Ghostbusters or not. And if it's in anyway related to plans for the animated Spider-Man movie. It would be great if this was RGB related, though it's vague on how likely it is. It's said to skew younger audiences, but so didn't the original cartoon. And before ABC's NS&P stuck their fingers in it, it was quite dark... sometimes oddly moreso than the movie was. So that could mean anything.
     
  14. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Wow, has anyone ever seen this? Someone put together a recreation of a deleted scene from Ghostbusters II, where Ray is possessed by Vigo in the middle of the film and deliberately tries to crash the Ecto-1 into a tree! You can still read the dialogue in the comic book adaptation. Wow, it's pretty disturbing, I guess they were afraid it would be too scary for kids. But it does help to better explain what happens to Ray at the end of the film.



    Well, you know, I was randomly watching Ghostbusters II the other day, and maybe some of that positively charged slime got on me too, but I just don't feel like getting mad at this new movie anymore, lol. Good or bad, it's just another chapter. And I am genuinely interested in the final results!
     
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That makes you one of the sane ones. Some GB fans are just hammering everyone involved with death threats. That's taking things way too far. There's a difference between not liking the idea of making a new film based on something close to you, and being in such a fandom comfort zone that any change or resurrection is so sacrilegious that violence has to be threatened to stop it from getting made.

    I'm going to keep an open mind about this one, and little of it really bugs me. I don't like how it's an alternative universe reboot. It doesn't have to be, nor does it need to be. I'm disappointed that the potential for the original Ghostbusters licensing themselves out for franchising, or at least making a nice stab at the other Ghost Busters referencing the old "Famous Original Ray's Pizza" gag never materialized. Also, it would have been great if they got Aubrey Plaza instead of Kate McKinnon, and had her play some sort of version of Kylie from Extreme Ghostbusters (she was retconned into the comic books). But that's what I would have done anyway. The accepted fan sequel is the big video game from several years back where they had the budget to get all the original actors to do their voices, anyway.

    Of course, I'm much more excited to see if that Animated movie happens, regardless of it being associated with the cartoon series or not. And the animated Spider-Man movie that I hope still happens.
     
  16. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Maybe part of what's changed my mind somewhat is all these blockbuster franchises lately and fans being so shocked when not every single movie is amazing. That's actually pretty normal, guys, lol. And, more to the point, not the end of the world.

    To be fair, I think some fans just don't want to see the original talent behind Ghostbusters getting screwed over. I can understand that.

    Btw, that deleted scene I mentioned earlier, do you think it should have been kept in the film? I wonder if it indicates Ghostbusters II was originally a bit less family friendly than the final results.
     
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  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I personally gave up giving a crap what fans of film franchises think when they actually defended Superman III to attack Man of Steel. Superman III is a terrible, indefensible movie who's plot makes a sub-standard Superfriends episode look like the best of the Batman the Animated series episodes. When you have a nostalgia based hatebone for something, at least attack it by putting it up against something good.

    Seriously. I really hate Superman III. I mean, really hate it. It's one of the worst movies I've seen, and I've seen some awful stuff on syndicated weekend line ups.

    Then there's the whole annoying bit about Tron vs. Tron Legacy, and it's like... you know the original film was famous for being a flop, right? The most popular thing to come out of that (other than references in cartoons 2000 and beyond) was Corey Burton basing Shockwave's voice on David Warner in that film. Same can't be said about the well received and screwed by the network Tron cartoon series. The cartoon series, once again, becomes the better sequel to the film than another film. Just like Ghostbusters and Men in Black.

    Then again, Jurassic World seems to have been received better than the other Jurassic Park sequels, mainly because it managed to keep itself tongue in cheek and have a likable lead. And Mad Max Fury Road was met with thunderous applause.

    Still, you wonder... Ghostbusters fans barely liked the second film. I like it myself, but feel the cartoon (until ABC had its way with it) better handled the characters and themes than the second one did. I liked the idea of them constantly being in business rather than falling on hard times after they defeated Gozer. And the more said about the Men in Black animated series, the better. They did time travel better than the (admittedly good) third movie, and the Agent Alpha plot from the cartoon really should have been a thing instead of what the second film was about.
     
  18. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    That is so strange to me; I guess some of it is generational? I did see Ghostbusters II in the theater when I was 6 years old; I personally was entranced from the very first shot of the crack on the street with the slime coming out, lol. Yes, it's nowhere near as edgy as the first one, but bottom line for me, the characters' personalities are still in tact and that's so not typical for a sequel.
     
  19. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    According to Cracked, Mad Max may not be getting a sequel because it wasn't released in China and didn't incessantly pander to its government in order to make the real money.

    I doubt GB3 will get released there, either, as anything involving the supernatural is taboo now. :rolleyes:
     
  20. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Well they're not too far off, you know Dan Ackroyd is a true believer. ;)

    Yeah it's pretty disturbing how these studios placate to a government like China's.
     

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