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Ghostbusters 3 finally on the way? You decide!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by frogboy4, May 20, 2009.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm mixed about the humor myself. But then again, trailers. To be perfectly honest, I don't think we really need another Ghostbusters movie of any kind. Maybe a DTV animated one with the original surviving cartoon voice cast (which means we'd get Coulier as he's still around and Music sadly isn't). All and all, I'd agree with the opinion that the film is unnecessary, rather than this being some big controversial thing that fanboys are whining all over. Still, the plot has piqued my interest. If only they had that plotline rather than "creepy painting wants to kidnap a baby." The cartoon would have made it work, the second film seems like a lost opportunity.

    For the record, I do enjoy GB2. More than most, in fact. It's one of the few comedy movie sequels that work, and it's a lot less a waste of concept than MIB2 (something I'd call a spiritual successor to GB, not that Evolution movie or its awful cartoon series). But it really seems like it was made because the cartoon series became popular between movies and they wanted to cash in off it. Same deal with MIB2 and even Secret of the Ooze (Tokka and Rahzar were good, though). The cartoons just managed to make better use of the concept. There's influence in there as well, but not the influence that made them work as kid's shows. But I used to be a little more defensive about GB2, but the years of critique have gotten to me and I agree with some of it. If anything, this new movie at least has a better sounding plot than that one.
     
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    And if you're still unhappy with this film, Two more are still happening, including the animated one.

    I dunno about this being the first directorial job of someone who's behind app based game commercials, but everyone has to start somewhere. I still don't like how whatever reports on the animated movie always linking it to the RGB cartoon. Just in case it isn't, you know we'll never hear the end of it.
     
  3. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    So yesterday the Tribeca Film Festival had a pre screening of a rough cut of the Ghostheads (a new documentary that focuses on the fans). But 2 hours before, turns out there was a free screening of Ghostbusters (1984). Just wanted to share some moments:

    Lots of families with little kids in the audience. The most adorable moment was probably towards the end of the film when the kids starting echoing Venkman's, "Go get her, Ray!" :fanatic:

    This was also the scene where I had a strange kind of epitome. Right around when the Ghostbusters first approach Gozer, and they cut to each guy separately, one at a time. For that brief moment I was in the mindset of someone seeing this movie for the first time, and getting to know these characters, what that excitement and wonder must be like. I was too young to remember the first time I saw Ghostbusters. But I will always remember that feeling now when I watch that scene. Awesome. :cool:

    The version of Ghostheads we saw is still being finished, with no color correction or final score, and several title cards saying, "Add animation here." Plus they said they're still planning to add more fan interviews, as well as interviews with the original cast. But it looks very promising, a lot of the fan stories are very sweet and inspirational. I had no idea there were so many fan chapters across the country, as well as Canada and even Italy. A lot of the members showed up to the screening, in full uniform and amazingly (or disturbingly, hehe) realistic proton packs. The Q&A after the film was very insightful too, they did a good job of explaining the appeal of the films. When people dress up as super heroes like Batman, they're disguised as someone else. But being a Ghosthead means empowering yourself.

    Also pretty cool, the original "King of the Ghostheads," Peter Mosen was in attendance at the screening. He's known for appearing in his own home made costume at a preview screening in 1984. And I thought Trekkies were dedicated!
     
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  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    ..and that's why there's so many ticked off at the new film.

    I really wish these little fan documentaries would get national releases. I'm still waiting for the documentary of the "Superman Lives" making of. That feels like we're going to be given a tour of the trainwreck. Say what you will about the DCU Superman films, but daaaaaanged if that film would've made Batman and Robin look like Gone with The Wind. Also waiting for the Roger Corman Fantastic Four documentary as well. Seems that movie, as dopey as it looks, at least had heart to it. I want to hear their story.
     
  5. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Em, well, actually the families in the audiences enjoyed the trailer for the new film a lot, and not just the kids. And the hard core fans there (the ones in uniform) are hoping for the best. I heard all of two reactions from the audience that sounded like a "Tsk!"

    The film's a glorified home movie but I agree, the behind the scenes story is rather fascinating.
     
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    While the Corman FF movie was never meant to be released and made for the very same cynical reasons the Josh Trank disaster was, it feels like it's the best FF movie ever made. Which is a shame since a low budget placeholder of a film is better written than the larger budget films in the franchise that were never that successful and certainly a lot better than the big budget place holder. The story of why that first one got made seems to be more interesting than any stories the three released ones have.

    Anyway, the real reason to be excited for Ghostbuster '16. The rumors are true. Ecto Cooler is making a comeback. Unfortunately, it's a limited time offer, and Slimer isn't on any of the packaging (though a "Ghostbusters: Only in theaters" tagline is). But I'm very excited that this and supposedly Crystal Pepsi are making huge summer comebacks. Ecto-Cooler by any name is one of the best things from Hi-C, giving it a tangy, pronounced flavor better than it's watery, mild flavored "Orange Outburst" counterpart. Glad to see it in both Juice box and can form, but I'd kinda wish they also planned 2Ltr soda bottle sized releases.

    I always found it funny that Ghostbusters, while not completely devoid of merchandising when it came out, didn't start their wave of marketability until the cartoon series hit. Also funny that most GB merchandise we get now is directly for fans of the film with the cartoon only getting nods here and there.
     
  7. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Well they didn't know it was going to appeal to kids as much as it did.
     
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Obviously. Considering how Gozer was summoned and all. That's not to say there was nothing. I remember there was at least the breakfast cereal coming out before the cartoon. Plus, that never stopped them from making kid's toys of Rambo. Not even the cartoon, just straight up toys from an R rated violent franchise. Not to mention how much kids loved Jason and Freddy when those were still fresh.

    Not to say that the movie itself wasn't toyetic, but it really seems that's the case. Columbia and the toy companies not realizing kids would have loved this thing. And the strange thing is, that's always the opposite case. I've never seen MIB the series merchandise outside of a BK Kid's meal and a lousy video game. Beetlejuice somehow had more merchandise as a movie than a kid's show, and that's a shame since you'd think they had something considering how popular it was. Same deal as MIB, but only a trading card series added to the fast food promotion and terrible licensed game. They supposedly had a couple action figures added to the movie line but that was it. Unless you count stuff they formerly had at Universal studios.
     
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    UGH. Just UGH!

    Okay, apparently when the internet got it's boxers in a bunch that this was going to feature women, and when he was being bombarded by death threats the first time, Paul Feig said that geek culture is full of buttholes. And now, said internet buttholes who acted like buttholes are whining about how they're being called out on their buttholeness.

    Uhhhhhhh....

    Listen. There's legitimate complaints about the movie, and I get that. It's different in humor, it doesn't look as deep as the original film was (though the trailer for that one wasn't as deep either because it's a trailer), there's really no need to make this movie, I get that sort of thing. There's a polite conversation of "I don't think this is something I'd see" in there somewhere that can be seen as reasonable. But frankly, when you whine like a child and send death freaking threats, uh... well, Paul is in the right here to say that those who act terrible are indeed terrible people. And terrible people make the most noise, read 2 words into a response and act even more terrible.

    So in short if you act terrible, someone calls you out on being terrible, you look even worse when you act even more terrible as a result.
     
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  10. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I think it's time we faced it: The Internet is pure, concentrated evil. ;)
     
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Or babies.

    I still can't get over the Powerpuff Girls remake being nitpicked to death as if season 6 didn't already ruin the franchise. Meanwhile I stewed over that excuse for a movie with a title called Underdog for branding reasons and using up a license that Disney should never have bought in the first place and everyone looked at me like I was the guy in his underwear on the street saying the world was ending. I mean, I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thought so, since the internet's favorite cartoon writer (only when he's working on DC based cartoons, though) Paul Dini gave a thoughtful, insightful, but none the less annoyed and ticked off summation of that movie.

    But here's the thing. He never once sent death threats or made it about his own personal agenda. He gave the movie the thrashing it deserved without resorting to nastiness or pretending to be the victim of an imaginary conspiracy theory. As for me, I made a small fuss and didn't see it. In the end, all I can say about the movie is a "don't like? Don't watch. Enjoy some Ecto-Cooler." In the end, it's a different continuity anyway, so it doesn't matter. Only reason this one was rushed to the finish line is because of the development purgatory the third GB movie was going through. Bill Murray was being obstinate about it, but...it's so hard to be mad at Bill Murray. You can say "you did both Garfield movies and you found an idiotic excuse for it" all you want, it's still Bill Murray. Then when things looked like they were getting traction, Ramis died. And frankly, I don't think the fans would have liked that movie anyway. It's not Mad Max Fury Road here where the film got great reception decades after the last one. I'd say it's more like Tron Legacy or Crystal Skull. It would thematically be the same movie but they'd have some odd problem with it. Like half the Jurassic Park fanbase that hates the (actually good) World movie but pretends the second and third films weren't crap.
     
  12. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Well, I for one don't believe babies are born good, lol. They're born wanting what they want when they want it. It's survival and it makes sense when you're helpless. But some babies never do grow out of it. And the only place they're tolerated is the Internet.
    Indeed. They say, "A sequel would have been better," but we all know they'd never really be satisfied unless the original movie was literally just repackaged with a new title (Hi, Force Awakens, hehe).
     
  13. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    One thing that I've noticed about the new ghostbusters movie is that people seem to be picking on the graphics quality. While I'll agree (and i think i said this before I don't remember) that some of the style choices do look a little too clean (more...futuristic and less home built I guess?), I don't get peoples complaints that the CGI looks bad. I mean...the original movies had some pretty cheesy and terrible CGI effects. The CGI itself looks fine to me in comparison :confused:
     
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  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I think at this point they're just trying to pick apart anything they can to find ways to hate on it. Though I'd at least I'd count that as a valid enough complaint compared to some of the "WAAAAHHH! It hurtz my chyldhud!" crap.

    I think picking on CGI is something to expect yet something that's disappointing. Practical effects are usually more interesting, but those can be absolutely crappy and cheap looking too. I'd say the original films had more interesting effects, but if they had the technology back then, they'd be mostly CGI anyway. Though I really miss Slimer being a puppet, considering what site this is.

    I'm disappointed with certain internet critics doing the pledge to not see or review the movie. While I could respect that, I think they're being belligerent about it. That said, Brad Jones gave a hilarious comeback that I can't post here because I still have trouble posting links instead of direct video and it's very NSFW for language. You can find it on his channel under "Brad Refuses to review an Upcoming Remake."

    The movie in question is a remake of Dog[Screwer]. He vows he'd rather spend his time seeing the new Ghostbusters movie
     
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  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    So apparently Ray Stanz himself approves. Then of course this is the judgement of someone that did "Legends of Oz" and "Christmas with the Kranks." :p

    NAAAH. He's one of the guys who basically created the concept and wrote the original movie and its original treatments back when John Belushi was involved. I hope his approval means the movie is good, after all, it was his original movie.

    Of course, this Ghostbusters movie is a first! It's the first Ghostbusters movie to have a toyline co-current to the film sold in mainstream stores. Now, not all of it is kid friendly. They have action figures the same style and pricepoint as the Matty Collectors line, but there's also some more kid friendly blind bagged minifigures and plush toys.
     
  16. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Yeah I saw that, lol. Definitely NSFW, but undeniably hilarious.

    I don't know if you heard, Aykroyd's has some health trouble this weekend. Hope everything's OK.
     
  17. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    The cast of the original Ghostbusters and the new one will be on Jimmy Kimmel on June 8th.

    http://bgr.com/2016/06/05/ghostbusters-original-cast-kimmel/

    I'm a little disappointed that Rick Moranis won't be there. I know he's mostly retired from show biz and all but it still would've been cool to see him with the rest of the cast just this once.
     
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  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    And he got crap for it because he was doing a tongue in cheek parody of James Rowlfe's video. Even said he got a comment saying that it's somehow as tasteless as making a 9/11 joke the day after. Which is pretty indicative of the absolute obnoxiousness of the film's detractors. Then again, one of the responses to the response videos (that is "bully victims") is a photo of a morbidly obese woman with pink hair flipping off. As in "all feminists are ugly fatsos that I don't wanna bang."

    It's a friggin movie, people. I didn't feel in the same universe as this betrayed when they ruined Underdog. And by all means that totally destroyed the point of the character to make a throwaway, watered down kiddy flick.

    That said...uh...anyone actually see the Ecto-Cooler in stores? I really hope this isn't one of those "only available in huge orders online" cases like Surge or Crystal Pepsi.
     
  19. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Also, Judd Apatow claims the haters of the new movie are all Trump supporters.

    Dan Akroyd is getting bullied by the internet for giving the new movie a good review.
     
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  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Don't ya just love when the guy who created the franchise gets crap from fans of the original movie he created for giving the new version of the thing he created a stamp of approval?

    I'm completely over these butthurt little fanboys whining that their precious childhood is being destroyed by a movie they can completely avoid, ignore, and won't have any baring on the original if they don't let it. Did they really think they'd like the Ghostbusters 3 movie that never happened instead? Of course not. Difference is, Girlstbusters is non-canon. A third movie, if it sucked, would have baring on the original movies. That's why the Star Wars prequels get so much hate. Not that they aren't lousy in their own rights (though I do like the second and third one), but the fact that things got explanations that didn't need them did kinda wreck the framing of the originals.

    To me, Girlstbusters is just as alternate universe as the comics, the cartoon, and whatever else there is out there.

    Still...where the heck is that Ecto-Cooler? I'd forgive an Adam Sandler, Kevin James, Rob Schnieder, David Spade Ghostbusters team for that stuff. If only I can find it in stores.

    And yes. We should all be thankful we didn't get Adam Sandler farting his way through a truly juvenile GB remake. Sony's the film's owners, that could CLEARLY be a possibility.
     
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