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Golden Globes - What's the Point?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by D'Snowth, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. Teheheman

    Teheheman Well-Known Member

    The GRAMMYs are held in February, and I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind the 'Nominations concert' is to drum up interest in the show that had lost its allure in recent years.

  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    "Hollywood Film Awards"? Really? Is that not what the Oscars are?!
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Ugh. Not only was Lindsey Stirling at one of the CMAs this year, for some reason, but she was reduced to playing back-up for somebody else, and didn't even really do anything that she's known for. That's incredibly disappointing.
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  4. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Here are the Oscar nominees for the awards this year:


    I must say, I am liking the variety of animated features they have here: one CGI, two stop-motion, and two 2D. Though I'm shocked that The Peanuts Movie and The Good Dinosaur were snubbed while Shaun the Sheep got nominated instead, though there's nothing that seems undeserving here.

    And even though the action-thrillers Mad Max and Bridge of Spies and sci-fi The Martian are in the Best Picture category, I have a strong feeling they're going to lose to the financial crisis-themed The Big Short or the period piece Brooklyn.
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty pleased with the animation noms. Shaun the Sheep is there because the Academy loves Aardman as much as Pixar as far as nominations go. The fact I haven't heard of one of the animation noms (the French one) is a good sign. Anomalisa I've seen ads for lately. I'm intrigued by it, I really want to know what it's about before I make any non-visual judgement on it. I'm actually mixed on the look. It's very innovative, but a tad Uncanny Valley-ish. All I know for sure they aren't giving it to the Japanese animated film. They rarely do if any. At least these films are artistic in there merits instead of "gaawwww... just pick a bunch of animated films out of lipservice" like the first awards for animated film were. Not going on that rant about Happy Feet getting nominated and winning when Satashi Kon's film was royally snubbed.

    Meanwhile the song nominees once again show they have no taste in music. I honestly can't think of any original song from any movies I've seen this year, and I don't think the Bing Bong song counts (though it certainly became a tear jerking short piece). And what the heck?!?! Fifty Shades of Grey gets a nom for song? Speaking of which...

    On the other side of things, the Razzie Noms were announced a day earlier.

    Now, I got on this on the Chipmunks thread. I don't like where the franchise went after the second film, the movies are for lowest common denominator 3-6 year olds. Do I think it deserves a Razzie? Meh. I really think Jem movie was snubbed royally for "Worst Ripoff or Reboot" or whatever, and it's far more deserving than Chipmunks' "ugh! They made another one! How annoying" nom.

    But It's nice to know while Fifty Sharts of Brown was undeserving nominated for best song, it's getting its fair share of completely deserved Razzie Noms. Pixels too. But if there's one thing I hope sweeps the Awards, it's Fantastic Four. Just for the sheer sake of it not needing to exist. It was made by a film company that wants to hold the less than lucrative rights to a franchise they failed with when the movies were (relatively) good and in spirit of FF's...well, batcrap insanity. And they still want them.
  6. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    What does anyone think of Room (not to be confused with the similarly-named Tommy Wiseau picture), about a woman and her young son released from captivity and experiencing the outside world for the first time? That one also seems slated to win due to its subject matter.
  7. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Agree, what's the point in the Golden Globes? Heck, even it's host said it doesn't matter if we watch the show, he already got paid, so he asks what's the worst the producers can do to him. And I answer from my own home, they could always send you back to Gulag 38B, Dominick Badguy.
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Still think the Oscars deserves its own thread and all, but I feel I need to weigh in on this.

    The whole controversy about there not being any Black actors or writers or directors or anything getting Oscar noms. I mean, how come they're complaining about the Oscar academy being a bunch of old, out of touch white guys giving out popularity points now? I mean, I thought that was essentially the main complaint about the Oscars at the very least the past decade? It's like how when animation fans moan that Brave got the Oscar and I'm always like Happy Feet won it. Where was the outrage there? They always snub the Japanese film because they're old white guys who's only exposure to anime is their grand-kids watching Pokemon. That's like saying every American cartoon is..I dunno... made by Hanna Barbera in the 60's.

    In this case, they snubbed the girl from Precious for a Sandra Bullock film that's unfortunate to say the least. Like I said, they twisted events to make the family look like a bunch of ignorant sides of beef that Mighty Whitey had to come in and save. By all means, a film more deserving of a Razzie than an Oscar. How come that went away with just a "whelp..." and not "you screwed a deserving actress who was in an actual emotional film over a manipulative lie that defamed an athlete and his family in the guise of 'inspirational.'" I believe the Daily Show had the right idea. They'll only nominate black actors or films if they're about slavery or getting revenge on slavery or something. But it's always been like this. Shame that Creed's only nom was Sylvester Stallone.
  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    So I'm assuming they ended the Oscars with "Fight the Power" on purpose since they were "racist" this year?
  10. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Welp, Leo finally did it, he finally won an Oscar!
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    You know what? I'm vary glad that Chris Rock didn't [kitty]foot around the issue. I knew that he'd address this somehow, and I'm glad it wasn't just an aside joke. It certainly kept the awards ceremony from being boring. And at least Chris Rock wasn't awkward and out of his element like Seth MacFarline and Neil Patrick Harris were.

    That said, while they're now considering new rules for consideration (the Oscar So White thing is because the Bakadamey is made up of old white people who only watch movies old white people would like), they simply must do something about the "Best Original Screenplay" rules. There is no way a movie based on real live events should be in the same category as those who have to actually make stuff up. Either they should be in best adapted (as they're adapted from real life events) or have their own category, something along the lines of "Best Screenplay Adapted from Real Events" or something.

    Other than that, this awards show was certainly better than some of the last ones. They brought back the holograms of cartoon characters to award best Animated short and feature categories. So much better than Mathew McConaguhey and that old actress being high through their whole presentation. Minions and Buzz and Woody. That's great. Loved seeing Ali G present an award as well. Not to mention R2, Threepio, and BB8 on stage. Most of the presenters were a little blah, though. Did like seeing the youngest actors present as well. Especially since one of them said exactly what I would about Chris Rock. "I loved you in Madagascar." But I really loved Louie C.K.'s backhanded and subversive speech about the short documentaries. You tell 'em Louie.

    As for the awards themselves, I'm very happy Mad Max won virtually all the effects and design awards. Those usually go to period pieces, and that's unfair since they have something to go on and copy from. Kinda disappointed Star Wars didn't win anything there, though, but at least it wasn't any of the period piece films. Making an old person mask on a young actor shouldn't win every time and thankfully it didn't.

    I kinda wish Richard Williams won for best animated short. Inside Out getting the award was inevitable. I don't think I'd enjoy Anomalisa outside of the visuals. They never give it to Ghibli or the other foreign film anyway. And I liked Inside Out too much to complain.

    I'm also glad that the substandard R&B song from the undeserved nomination for Fifty Sharts of Grey didn't win. And also, I have to say while it may be a good movie and all, I'm glad that The Big Short didn't win anything. I'm mixed about Spotlight. Mainly because I hate how Hollywood waits a good decade after the fact to make these prestige films about terrible things happening so we'll never forget that it happened rather than more currently and shining a light on recent events. Though, to be fair it does take that long to get all the facts straight, but Big Short's subject matter was pretty much the subversive plot of "The Good Guys." And that came out a year or two after the bank failings.
  12. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    I thought Chris Rock was a great host, and brought some much-needed humor throughout the show. He delivered some very strong messages regarding the "controversy" of the Oscars being "so white", too, like how African-American actors shouldn't get too worked up over something like this and keep working hard doing what they do best.

    I loved seeing Mad Max win all those awards. Nice way to stick it to all those period dramas.

    Poor, poor Richard Williams. The butchering of his intended magnum opus into a Disney wannabe probably still stings to him, but it is nice that he's still working on new stuff. And seeing that Chilean short win for best animated short over Sanjay's Super Team was surprising.

    I also wanted Stallone to win for best supporting actor for Creed, since he got snubbed for best actor in Rocky all those years back. Would have liked to see Bryan Cranston win for best lead actor in Trumbo, too.
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    While I'm not really a big fan, I'm at least glad Leo wasn't Susan Luccied out of another award. But I kinda wanted Brian to win if only for the reason of his bizarre pre-fame career. Saban voice actor. No kidding. He was a voice actor for Eagle Riders, an obscure Gatchaman dub, as well as several monsters on Power Rangers.

    Though, I have to admit, while I'm glad Stallone was nominated for playing Rocky, the Oscar So White thing makes a lot of sense that Apollo Creed's son wasn't for the same movie.

    But let's look at the other awards this past weekend....

    Fantastic Four swept the Razzies and tied "Worst Pitcure" with Fifty Sharts of Grey. While the same guy who was snubbed for his role in Creed was nominated for "Worst Actor," thankfully it went to the Grey cast members.

    Though I still can't really agree with Road Chip getting a nomination and Jem being snubbed. Maybe it was so forgettable, they just forgot it.
  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Didn't we just have the Grammy's? What's the deal with this "I Love Radio Awards," and why do we need it? It looks like it's literally the exact same thing.
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  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Ugh. There's a freaking award for movie trailers. And apparently this has been around 17 years. How do I know?

    Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice is nominated (but also Deadpool, so yaaaaaaay). Considering the reception that film got and I'd say deserves some of it, it's probably the only award it'll win. Unless the Razzies get all snarky. Don't think it's that deserving of it, unless they give Jessie Eissenberg a "worst actor" nom.

    But seriously... TRAILER AWARDS!!!

  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well . . . Kevin Nealon used to host those best commercials of the year specials for the longest time. Same difference?
  17. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    No. But advertising does have its own awards, and I have to admit, I think that they do deserve it. They're just nothing that would be broadcast. But those "Best Commercials" type shows are what they had for the longest time because the internet didn't exist and that was the only way to see older commercials or ones taken out of rotation. These are actual awards for trailers. Something I'm surprised that even deserves them since most trailers suuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Though all the awards should go to Pixar for Teasers. They're usually good with those. Though I miss when the teasers could be cartoon shorts themselves. I'll never forget that wonderful Incredibles teaser where Bob was trying to get his old outfit to fit. Sure, it's one of my top favorite Pixar films, but I could have accepted it if that was the only thing.

    Hey. At least it didn't spoil how much Jessie Eisneberg's Lex Creeper sucked. Think it should have at least warned us about that.
  19. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Wait just a minute . . . there's actually awards for webseries now? What kind of credentials do you have to have to get nominated for something like that? None of the work I've ever produced ever got nominated for anything. Or is this for internet-exclusive budgeted shows like shows on Netflix and the new subscription version of Hulu and such?
  20. Colbynfriends

    Colbynfriends Well-Known Member

    Where did you see that at? Could be for web original series for Netflix like you said. Do you have a source for that. I'd love to see the website and winners for that.

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