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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Mo Frackle, Nov 20, 2014.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I meant to grab the first issue of that at a certain local comic book store that was offering half off on all DC titles for the next couple months (no doubt because of the DC Rebirth gimmick), and never got around to it. Out of all the other comics, it does sound like the best of the bunch. I was looking forward to Wacky Raceland...until I saw how Dick Dastardly looks like something Johnny Depp should have played. Plus..I dunno...Five bucks an issue? Maybe I'll pick up the first one if it's part of the half off dealie.

    While I don't know if this strongly hints at anything, the Funtastic World of Hanna Barbera ride had this interesting pre-show. Skip to about 2 minutes in when Dastardly appears...

    Now, I am only making a guess here, but that line seems to suggest that if The Jetsons:The Movie didn't fail at the box office, it would have been the start of an HB animated movie series. There's probably a nugget of truth to that, or it may just be a wild coincidence.

    I don't mind an HB movie series, but I really don't think everything needs to be a cinematic universe. They've been trying for a live action Jetsons movie since 1996 at least. The Johnny Quest project sounds like its happening (GOOD! WB's heads shouldn't have forcced the Venture Bros writers to start calling him "Action Johnny" for nothing). But there's surprisingly little in HB that actually shares anything. Yogi Bear and those 60's cartoons share a universe as far as Yogi's Gang and Treasure Hunt is concerned, and that may share a universe with Wacky Races since Dastardly and Muttley are in there. The Flintstones and Jetsons...well... yeah, that telefilm and it's mentioned in the first Flintstones NES game. Yogi does appear in a Flintstones, but I'm calling that a throwaway gag. And I'm guessing the action series share a universe (minus Fantastic Four for the most obvious of reasons).

    Oh... and yeah...there's Laff-a-lympics, but that's something I don't want to wrap my head around. Unless you play the "troupe of actors" route.
  2. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I remember seeing that pre-show bit. Of course, we did eventually get Flintstones and Scooby flicks, but they were the first of many live-action/CG movies to come.

    Fred and Barney also pop up in "Yogi Bear's All Star Comedy Christmas Caper," and the Flintstones and the Rubbles appear briefly in "Top Cat and the Beverly Hills Cats," but I'm thinking those too were throwaways.

    There was an episode in the original "Jetsons" series in which Elroy's classmate mentions that he's watching a rerun of "The Flintstones." Trying to connect all of these universes seems rather silly - I'd accept it either way you slice it.

    Speaking of "The Jetsons," I liked how "Harvey Birdman" treated them - easily one of my favorite HB parodies in that series.
  3. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Long ago, I checked out a fan fiction sitcom by Xerus called HB House. It brings the characters of Hanna-Barbera together quite well, and by golly, it would've been perfect as a half-hour show on Cartoon Network! If there can a House of Mouse featuring many Disney characters, why not make a show that reintroduces HB characters in one place?

    Here's access to the first episode. There are four other ones plus a Christmas episode that I'm sure you'll save for later.
  4. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Another thing about that pre-show, I love the cheesy childish acting Bill and Joe are doing! Intentionally silly stuff, methinks.

    "Nowadys, cartoons are even being made with computers!"

    Here's the full ride. It was later replaced with a very similar Nickelodeon-themed ride, with Jimmy Neutron in place of Yogi.

    At a time when the voice over industry had just lost some of its greats (Daws Butler, Mel Blanc, George O'Hanlon), HB made some wise recasting decisions. Greg Burson especially did a fine Yogi.

    Here's part of that 50th' anniversary special I mentioned earlier.

    Greg Berg (Baby Fozzie and Baby Scooter) voiced Augie Doggie and Baba Looey.

    I realize the quality isn't so hot, so here's a nice cel of the orchestra, and lineup of characters used.


  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm sure that even the Flintstones movie wasn't even a gleam in their eye. Makes me think that they were going to make a series of animated features, but the Jetsons dropped such a huge ball. I watched it back when I got the DVD and I feel that it's still good for the most part, but you can tell where the movie has real issues with script and forcing that Pop star they got into the film.

    Of course, the film's production problems delayed the film, and we got "The Wizard" (the video game movie that was a 90 minute advertisement for Nintendo) as a stop-gap replacement. Sad thing is, The Wizard is well remembered in video gaming circles, and The Jetsons is only known for its voice actors dying during production and Janet Waldo getting screwed out of playing her own character for an at the moment music star.

    That lithograph's pretty awesome. Though it does make me wonder. While I get the connection of the animal characters, Hong Kong Phooey and Scooby-Doo are no doubt completely different shows, arguably The Impossibles, who are also there. Wonder why Space Ghost or Johnny Quest aren't in there if the Impossibles are.
  6. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Here's a nice little tribute put together for Joe Barbera. Kind of bittersweet, since many of the actors (and not to mention Joe himself) either passed on not to long after this was made (Burson and Corden), or left us recently (Kasem and Waldo). Greg Burson really was a wonderful successor to Daws Butler.

    If the H-B shows ever got a proper revival, I'd really want Tom Kenny to voice T.C. again.

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  7. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Pitch for a primetime H-B sitcom that was never picked up. It definitely looks like a cross between "cute" and "boring." It's clear that some of the elements were incorporated into "The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan." Someone also likely had "The Brady Bunch" on the brain. Featuring the voices of Casey Kasem, John Stephenson, and Janet Waldo.
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  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    You know, I was all ready to say "UGH! That's H-B productions in the 70's for you." But you know what? I respect the effort and concept, especially the live action photograph backgrounds. Seems like they either used the concept for the Addams Family cartoon, or recycled it with a less morbid family. Certainly better than most of their other 1970's efforts. Probably couldn't sell because they weren't a mystery solving rock band.:rolleyes:

    At least we get a similar concept with The Loud House.
  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    My theory is that there were just simply way too many characters to keep track of: not only are there twelve kids, but there's also the parents and the dog, it would be quite difficult writing for all of them per episode (not to mention it would probably send more than a few animators to the psych ward). After all, this was one of the problems M*A*S*H had during its first season: there were almost twice as many recurring, supporting characters as there were main characters, that all but two (Klinger being one of them) were axed the following season.
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    As Mo Frackle pointed out, they'd use the big family concept again with Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan. Although pointing that out does prove the point there were too darn many characters. I...I really hate Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan. I respect the cartoon for initially casting Asians to play Asians (something that wouldn't have happened even the same decade with the racist buck toothed "so solly" caricature still being able to fly), but the show is a hot mess. I hated it as a kid watching reruns and I hate it as an adult now. The older kids are there for the Archies knockoff factor, the younger kids are there to be precocious and obnoxious, and Charlie Chan's just...there.
  11. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Another couple of clips from the 50th Anniversary special. You usually don't see T&J or the Smurfs in these things.

  12. Mr Snrub

    Mr Snrub Well-Known Member

  13. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Well, they've been saying for a while that they were gonna revive several of Hanna-Barbera's franchises, so i'm not too surprised about that. But the thing that does surprise me and disappoints me a little, is the fact that they're doing a WWE movie AGAIN. I mean seriously, first Scooby Doo had two seperate movies about WWE, and then The Flinstones did one, and now the Jetsons. I mean seriously, do something original! Clearly Warner must have some kind of contract with them.
  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    That's exactly what Daffy said at Bugs Bunny's 51 1/2 birthday. "Warner Bros. doesn't have an original bone in its--"
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I agree, but feel more disappointed not so much they're doing something again with the WWE but the fact they have to in order to keep these classic franchises going. As I've said countless times before, The Flintstones for at least a generation will remember them only as cereal and vitamin mascots. The WWE Flintstones movie was the first thing in a decade to feature them not shilling cereal (which they're barely even in the commercials for now anyway). And the Flintstones was a hugely successful cartoon that ran for several seasons. And that's not counting the spinoffs up into the 80's and telefilms of the early 90's. The Jetsons failed its prime time run, but kept alive in reruns until the 80's series, which was a great deal more kiddy. And after that animated movie that could have gone better, they've been striving to make a live action film that kept not happening. Sucks that The Jetsons has to brand itself with WWE to actually get something out of it (not counting the John K shorts and their appearance on Harvey Birdman, both a decade old or so), but it's a shame that there hasn't been a reason to bring them back since Jet Dry commercials. Also 10 years old, actually.

    Think of it this way. There's a Johnny Quest movie that's actually going to happen at some point. They had to introduce the characters by making a movie where they cross over with Tom and Jerry and still don't get top billing. I'm glad that HB can still release toys of (of all things) Hong Kong Phooey and have them be successful to collectors, but all we're seeing is Scooby-Doo and Tom and Jerry DTV's and cartoons that barely air.
  16. Flaky Pudding

    Flaky Pudding Well-Known Member

    When I was little, I remember collecting Hannah Barbara dolls that came in Dairy Queen kids meals. The very nice woman who owned the local Dairy Queen at the time made sure my collection was complete, :).
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  17. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Yeah. At least "Top Cat" has had a nice following in Mexico - even if it only resulted in a couple of so-so feature films. No chance of seeing the likes of Huckleberry Hound or Quick Draw get that treatment - or any kind of treatment, for that matter.

    On a related note - a silly April Fools Day article on a Snagglepuss movie.
  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Yeah. That was an odd one. I had it in my Netflix queue for a bit before it disappeared and never got to watch it. I've heard of the odd other country getting some weird version of an American cartoon before (Japan's 1970's Little Lulu anime and the infamous TMNT OVAs, not to mention that we're getting a lot of French Co-productions lately), but the Top Cat movie totally confused and surprised me. I hear there's a Woody Woodpecker movie coming as well, but even then, Woody Woodpecker is the default Mickey Mouse to Universal. Top Cat did appear in that Fender Bender cartoon from Wake Rattle and Roll, and had that 1980's telefilm, but when was the last time you heard someone talk about Top Cat?

    Still, I can appreciate that Hanna Barbera merchandise still works on nostalgia, even though it's nostalgia for the over 40 set and those who are die hard HB fans. I bring up Hong Kong Phooey because the character hasn't been in much other than his own 1974 cartoon series and the cameos in Laff-A-Lympics, and you see him in merchandise from time to time. Even then, there's a stock roster of HB characters they tend to keep using. Usually Yogi Bear characters and Dastardly and Muttley, who somehow are and aren't Yogi characters at the same time.
  19. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Cartoon Network used him in some of their ads - back when the network was devoted almost entirely to HB cartoons. Usually, Tom Kenny would do his voice for these, but Arnold Stang did at least one early ad. May have been the last time he played T. C. (5:23)

    And of course, there was the Harvey Birdman episode.
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  20. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Rare footage of H-B from their early TV days - my favorite era of the studio's. "Every drawing is inked by a girl..." :smirk: My, but times have changed.

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