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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Mo Frackle, Nov 20, 2014.

  1. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Yup. I'll third that opinion. But the original is still my second favorite. Mystery inc would be in third place. Any spin off with Scrappy and/or without Fred, Velma, and Daphne automatically lose points, especially Be Cool Scooby Doo.
     
  2. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Don't you mean Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue? Because Be Cool had the whole gang in there, and Scrappy hasn't appeared yet, thankfully.
     
  3. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    I've seen bits and pieces of the various Scooby series over the years. Perhaps not enough to form the most solid opinions, but my take -

    Scooby-Doo, Where Are You! - The one that started it all, and set the general tone for the franchise. While pretty flawed - particularly in the not-so-fleshed-out personalities of Fred, Daphne, and Velma - this series was pretty cool. I liked the dark, foreboding feel brought about by the artwork. Nice "monsters," as well.

    The New Scooby-Doo Movies - Already starting to feel a little too whacky. The guest stars don't really add much (although a few of the team-ups - particularly with Batman and Robin - worked). Not to mention the celebrities' presence rarely made any sense. Story lines are needlessly stretched out to 45 minutes.

    The Scooby-Doo Show - Admittedly haven't seen much of this one. Looks like a sillier version of the original series. Known for featuring Scooby-Dum, a hillbilly cousin of Scooby's, and Scooby-Dee, a female cousin whom Scooby is apparently in love with (?)

    Laff-A-Lympics - May not be considered a true Scooby series. A parody of "The Battle of the Network Stars." It's kind of a shame that the idea wasn't fleshed out a bit more. I can see it working as an extreme precursor to CN's "Total Drama" series. Fun to watch at least an episode or two, but the formula gets old rather quickly. Also, huge script flaw - the Really Rottens regularly lose points for cheating in events, but the other two teams get off scot-free. Shouldn't Babu's Magic be called into question by the judges?

    Scooby and Scrappy-Doo (half hour version) - Believe it or not, Scrappy saved Scooby's declining ratings. That being said, I think that the main problem with Scrappy was that he took on the roles already occupied by Fred, Daphne, and Velma, making their inclusion pointless. Otherwise, the idea of an exuberant nephew assuming that his nervous uncle is actually a brave detective is amusing.

    Scooby and Scrappy-Doo (seven minute shorts) - Scooby, Shaggy, and Scrappy run away from real monsters, pirates, and smugglers for seven minutes. Not much else happens. Occasionally joining the trio is Yabba-Doo, a Western sheriff uncle. Scrappy and Yabba appeared in a handful of shorts away from Scooby and Shaggy - the only series not to feature any of the original Scooby gang.

    The New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show/The New Scooby-Doo Mysteries - Daphne's back, and this time has adopted a team mom role. This was likely in response to the lack of stronger female characters in Saturday morning programming. Fred and Velma occasionally appear during the second season, and the mystery element has returned.

    The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo - Interesting idea, but not as well executed as it could have been. On the plus side, the writers (led by future Tiny Toons/Animaniacs writer Tom Ruegger) are given small moments of creative freedom, predating A Pup Named Scooby-Doo. One episode doesn't even focus on the series' story arc, but instead on Scooby quitting the group, and being taken to a world in which he was never born. Vincent Price is a nice addition. But the less said about Flim-Flam and those two comic relief ghosts, the better.

    A Pup Named Scooby-Doo - The first series to take the Scooby concept and poke fun at it. There's a sense fun and creativity that had been missing from Hanna-Barbera for decades. The use of full animation and wild Tex Avery-style takes is also a welcome addition.

    What's New, Scooby-Doo - Haven't seen, but am under the impression that it's Where Are You! for the '00s.

    Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue! - Haven't seen, but have heard people regard it as the worst Scooby series.

    Scooby-Doo - Mystery Incorporated - Have seen a handful of early episodes, and found it to be quite enjoyable. There's a combination of the classic whodunnit elements, character development, clever in-jokes, and a story arc that doesn't feel forced.

    Be Cool, Scooby-Doo! - Have heard mixed opinions on it.

    Many of the direct-to-video movies seem to be pretty enjoyable. Less so the TV movies - namely Scooby Goes Hollywood and the Superstars 10 entries - and the live-action movies.
     
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  4. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    What are your thoughts on the live action movies?
     
  5. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Ah yes, Get a Clue! That's the one. Be Cool seems pretty funny from the few clips i've seen.
     
  6. ErinAardvark

    ErinAardvark Well-Known Member

    Probably the Tex Avery style wild takes. I think that's one reason I liked it better.
     
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  7. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen the second one in some time, but the first was a bit of a misstep. Good actors, bad script.
     
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  8. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    Which do you like better? Scooby Doo or the second one, Monsters Unleashed?
     
  9. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    I myself have never even seen Monsters Unleashed to begin with anyway, but I have seen the poster for it. The first Scooby Doo movie was really great and I didn't think that the script was that bad at all.
     
  10. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    Well, there is one issue I had with the 'villian' in the first live action SD movie, but I want to verify that we all have seen the movie before I post my thoughts on that one. Don't want to give away any spoilers.
     
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  11. Muppy

    Muppy Well-Known Member

    Just use a spoiler tag ...
     
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  12. snichols1973

    snichols1973 Well-Known Member

    I've wondered if there has ever been fan artwork out there depicting the Mystery Inc. gang as the Inside Out characters:

    If so, the Mystery Inc. / Inside Out lineup might look something like this:

    Freddy = Anger
    Velma = Sadness, with a bit of Disgust (?); based on Velma's & Sadness's similar wardrobe styles
    Daphne = a mixture of Disgust & Joy (?); again, based on the costume similarities
    Shaggy & Scooby Doo = Fear
     
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  13. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    The Nostalgia Critic just reviewed the T&J Willy Wonka movie, and he brings up a lot of good points. While I have no desire to watch this myself, I do appreciate the occasional turns from the source to make it at least a little unique, namely actually showing Veruca fall into the furnace. I'm also surprised and a bit appreciative that they kept the line "Are the fires of He|| a-glowing?" during the infamous boat ride sequence (with Oompa Loompa Tuffy in place of Willy). I feel that word shouldn't be considered a curse word if it's used to refer to the fiery place.

    But yeah, I agree that the T&J parts distract from the Wonka parts and vice versa, plus the off-model John K-esque animation style with the deranged expressions mostly doesn't work, except for the aforementioned boat ride where Tuffy utterly loses it.

    https://vid.me/uTTLo
     
  14. ErinAardvark

    ErinAardvark Well-Known Member

    I love "Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory" (probably my second all time favorite movie), and I like Tom and Jerry, but after seeing bits and pieces of the T&J "Wizard of Oz" (it was a review done by Bobsheaux on YouTube), I have no desire to see what they did with WWatCF. Especially now that I know Tuffy's in it. Ugh.
     

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