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Happytime Murders...

Discussion in 'Henson Alternative' started by Space Muppet, Sep 16, 2018.

  1. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    Yeah, you don't question Old Thunder boi.
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  2. gavry3

    gavry3 Well-Known Member

    Here's a fun dare: Watch the movie!
  3. Old Thunder

    Old Thunder Well-Known Member

    So, I was actually starting to wonder if maybe I had jumped the gun a little too much in my posts. I realize that I often come off as brash, vain, what have you, and usually it's not my intention and merely just how I write. But this time I really started to think that I overdid it. I hadn't had a very good day when I made my initial post, and I was reading a lot of vanity - or so I thought - and in a thread which had no reason for existence. Really should have been in the official one. But then when Floyd started defending him I was really wondering if I had completely misread the entire thing. I was still sticking to my thoughts, mind you, but maybe I had misinterpreted Space Muppet's post. Maybe it was just a declaration of why he didn't want to watch the film. Maybe it wasn't as vain as I was initially reading.

    Well, today he proved that I wasn't very far off in my initial estimations.

    Okay, but you never said anywhere in your original post that you were Chip's puppeteer, all you said was that you were giving Brian a suggestion and he looked at you like you were from out of Mars. So forgive antsamthompson9 for not knowing what you didn't tell anyone right at the beginning.

    You came onto this forum, you opened a pointless thread just to air your thoughts on the movie when you could have easily - EASILY - made the same post in the actual official thread instead. Yet you have the nerve to tell someone on a public forum to "mind their own business". If you didn't want people to discuss this and - horrors! - share their own thoughts on what you've said, then why in god's name did you post it here? You could have easily kept it to yourself or put it up on another webpage or whatever. But no, instead you put it on Muppet Central Forums, where people are free to their own opinion and free to express their own opinion. You expressed yours, great. Now let someone else express their opinion that this thread is pointless and should be deleted or closed. Personally I agree with Blue Frackle that we can just have this thread merged with the other one, but don't you deny that the thread itself has very little life in it because it was started just for you to air your negativity and if you've got nothing more to say and don't want others to discuss it with you then closing this will mean nothing to anybody. It's just a waste of space on an already thread-clustered board.

    I could have easily given you this same exact response, but guess what? I won't. I actually want to express why I think a certain way, even if it gets me ostracized from others, because then at least people can actually understand it. But instead of you defending your stance or explaining it further or what have you, you just gloss over the entire point of my post and then have to audacity to publicly post that you don't give a crap about whatever I've said. I consider that an offense, and I do not take those lightly. Tell me what you don't like about it or me to my face. Don't just give me this "blah, blah, blah" BS.

    Ah, so you admit it then? Guess my post wasn't a waste of words after all.

    Guess what.... you're wrong. ;)

    This, my friend, is called "someone is defending you". Normally people say "thanks" or "yeah, [insert person] is right, I didn't mean whatever [insert person] was thinking I meant". Something to that effect. Instead, you just completely brush over Floyd giving you a good word and then say "huh" to them instead. Clearly then, you have no defenses or anything and my initial thoughts on you were rather accurate. All you're after is giving Brian Henson a bad name and laughing at him as his movie fails. Well bravo, sir, you magnificent genius!

    Am I speaking to Gord Robertson, by the way? The guy who played Chip in Muppets From Space? 'Twas but a cameo, but I suppose it's enough to earn you rights beyond our mortal beliefs.

    If you really think you're better than the rest of us because you worked on a Muppet film, then maybe it's time you rethink your life. Maybe if you like the 'powers' that the title "Muppet Performer" gives you, you'd do well to actually be a role model and not some dude laughing at others who merely have a different opinion than you do. At least we explain ourselves. To you, it's all just "blah, blah, blah".

    Have a nice day.
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2018
  4. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member



  5. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    He's not Gord Robertson; Gord did Chip as an actual character on the Jim Henson Hour. Chip just had a silent appearance in MFS.
  6. Old Thunder

    Old Thunder Well-Known Member

    The wiki gives him a Muppets From Space credit, but I can't find him in the MFS credits themselves, so I just assumed he was the guy behind Chip's cameo and it just wasn't large enough for an out-and-out credit.
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  7. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    Yup; the more and more I research, I can't verify what I said at all.
  8. Old Thunder

    Old Thunder Well-Known Member

    Lol! At the same time, though, I checked IMDb for a more complete cast list and I can't find him in it, and upon checking Gord's own page, I couldn't find a credit for MFS. Guess we'll just have to wait and see if Space Muppet is kind enough to divulge this info.
  9. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    I did some sleuthing:

    I don't want to be creepy, but I also found his name; he's not Gord.
  10. Old Thunder

    Old Thunder Well-Known Member

    Aha. In that case I was definitely off in my post. What did Gord do in MFS, then?
  11. MrBloogarFoobly

    MrBloogarFoobly Well-Known Member

    As with anything anybody says on the internet, feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but a few friends of mine work for Sesame Street, and, on occasion, for the Muppets. From what they've told me, Brian Henson is a little bit of a tyrant who blacklists puppeteers if they cross him the wrong way.

    I've met Brian Henson a few times, and he always struck me as nice, but people who've actually worked with him have different stories. I suppose people are complicated, and there are different sides to everybody.

    As for the movie, it looks dumb. I don't have a specific opinion on it, as I've not seen it, but I have other things I'd rather use my time doing than watching a movie where puppets cum silly string on walls.
  12. Old Thunder

    Old Thunder Well-Known Member

    There’s a legitimate post I’ve got no issues with. Nicely done!
  13. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    @MrBloogarFoobly it's true! Business world is alot different from how you act casually when you're out on your own doing whatever.

    That supposedly could have been an issue why Steve was let go last year since some puppeteers say he was tough to work with (usually as Kermit, far as I've heard). But his real life, normal self, after having got to meet him, is very outgoing and talkative with his fans.

    So I guess that could just be an issue with Brian; sometimes he just doesn't have the best views with business life that it shows a different side to him and rubs people off the wrong way.

    When the saying goes "never meet your heroes", I think the best way to say it is don't meet them when they're busy doing something. If you see them at like an airport or whatever, you could risk going up to them and ask an "Excuse me?" So as not to disrupt them rudely and just act casual and if they don't want to be bothered, leave them alone. You can always get the chance to meet them at cons where they're committed to go unless something happens otherwise. You're still at risk of possibly seeing a nasty side either way, but the point is, try and meet them somewhere where you know you'll likely feel comfortable.... And it helps to do some research, too.
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2018
  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Yeah. Some of the cast of GOOD TIMES were at the same Fanboy Expo I went to to see the SS cast. I didn't see them, but I've read from others in attendance that Jimmie "J.J." Walker was really rude to people, and ignored a lot of them when approaching their table.
  15. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    I think it also depends on the "hero"; some people I can just tell if it's suitable to meet them or not.
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  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    It can go both ways too. I remember years back, when Billy the Exterminator was at the height of his popularity, people were hounding him with requests, saying their kids were big fans of his and wanting to meet him, so they needed him to fly them in, put them up in hotel accommodations, and stop swearing, and what have you, for them - and Billy would explain to them that he couldn't be expected to meet all of these requirements, even for kid fans of his, when he's busy with his show and his business. Then those same people would turn around and claim that Billy is a rude and arrogant ******* who destroyed their kids dreams, and that he should be ashamed of himself for it.
  17. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    From my experience, voice actors are the ones who usually are the nicest.
  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, I mean, it's not like they're recognized and mobbed by fans like big A-list celebrities are - and most of them hold a special place in many people's childhoods, so I'm sure there's more of a genuine appreciation there.

    Bill Farmer and Charles Martinet were at the Fanboy Expo this year - I didn't meet either of them (I was mainly there just for Steve), but Charles particularly had a looong line at his table, and just at a glance, he seemed like a really nice, easy-going guy who appreciated his fans.

    And again, I can't say enough how warm, friendly, and neighborly the SS castmembers were in person as they are on TV; Bob in particular.
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  19. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    At least I got to meet one of them from your photo. :p

    I'm hoping more come to Granite con in NH next year - that place really seems to love muppets.
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I'm keeping an eye on the schedules and guest lists for Fanboy from now on. They usually have one in summer and one in October, but they're doing the October one this year, instead, having a huge weekend combining both next summer, and already they're lining up guests. If other Muppet Performers are going to start showing up at these things, then I'll be on board for attending. They just get so danged pricey . . . $200 to meet the SS cast, and that didn't include the price for buying one of Bob's CDs, and a DVD copy of I AM BIG BIRD.

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