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Help Save British Fraggle Rock Episodes

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by charlietheowl, Oct 6, 2012.

  1. tedbear

    tedbear New Member

    Ah. One of the DVD episodes then. However, it does show that they are willing to air at least some part of episodes that have been found and are in broadcast quality.
     
  2. SnakeLipsXD

    SnakeLipsXD Active Member

    Oh, no - that's terrible :( Does anyone know how they got wiped?
     
  3. tedbear

    tedbear New Member

    We don't know for sure if they were wiped. TVS, the company that produced the British version has passed through several owners, and somehow, the paperwork for their tapes and archive has gone missing. Right now, the TVS archive is owned by Disney and ABC, but they can't do anything with the tapes they have, because of the paperwork. 12 episodes were been released on DVD in 2004, 17 have been found at the BFI's archive, and 12 were also released on VHS back in the 80's. 42 episodes are off-air recordings from VHS in private hands, but the quality varies from episodes, as most have no opening titles plus credits, and some have a few seconds missing from the start and end. 13 episodes are missing as of now. The old tapes still do exist, we just don't know where they are.
     
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  4. SnakeLipsXD

    SnakeLipsXD Active Member

    Ok, well they should (at least) try to release the lot on dvd when they can - as it would definitely save the footage if this sort of thing happens again. :)
     
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  5. anathema

    anathema Active Member

    And we have another find!

    'Beginnings', 'You Can't Do That Without a Hat', 'The Thirty-Minute Work Week' and 'I Don't Care' have all been found on VHS.

    9 to go...
     
  6. SnakeLipsXD

    SnakeLipsXD Active Member

    Yes!
    Go, Go, Fraggle Go! XD
     
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  7. ST1DS1

    ST1DS1 New Member

    Could you try and post the UK version of Beginnings on YouTube, Dailymotion, or any other video website?
     
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  8. anathema

    anathema Active Member

    It isn't mine to post.
     
  9. ST1DS1

    ST1DS1 New Member

    Could you perhaps pass my request on to someone who does actually have the means to post on Beginnings?
     
  10. Colbynfriends

    Colbynfriends Well-Known Member

    There may be some legal reasons as to why. Copyright, or maybe the copy is private and was meant for just one or a select group of people. It is a shame but sometimes red tape is hard to cut though. If you understand what I mean.
     
  11. tedbear

    tedbear New Member

    There are much less tight copyright rules on Dailymotion. Already there are lots of US Fraggle Rock episodes on there.
     
  12. Colbynfriends

    Colbynfriends Well-Known Member

    But again, it's not theirs to post. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
    I'll say the amount of UK episodes that are accounted for now is astonishing. Only what, 7 episodes missing out of 96? That's awesome.
     
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  13. ST1DS1

    ST1DS1 New Member

    What episode do you think UK Fraggle Rock fans want to see the most?
     
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  14. tedbear

    tedbear New Member

    Probably the later ones, including the final episode. Speaking of which, had actually been uploaded to YouTube at one point, but in less than one week got taken down.
     
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  15. Colbynfriends

    Colbynfriends Well-Known Member

    I"m sure UK Fraggle Fans would love to have a box set of their own series on DVD like the US version has. Which would be pretty awesome.

    Now, something I wonder, could the UK portions be remastered and spliced in with the other footage from the US version to make a hybrid show? For some it wouldn't work but other episodes maybe not so much.
     
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  16. ST1DS1

    ST1DS1 New Member

    The one episode that I feel is mandatory to post on Dailymotion is Beginnings.
     
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  17. Colbynfriends

    Colbynfriends Well-Known Member

    Well its not "mandatory" though would be nice. However that's saying the holder of the episode is able to and or has some copyright claim so it lessens the chance of Henson filing a claim. Even though it's a different platform than YT copyright still counts there on Dailymotion too.

    That being said it would be nice I agree. Just not mandatory for whom ever is the episode holder.
     
  18. ST1DS1

    ST1DS1 New Member

    It just seems necessary in a way to post on Beginnings. Mind you, we've seen a short clip, so why not the full episode?
     
  19. ST1DS1

    ST1DS1 New Member

    Why did Fulton MacKay choose to pull out of Fraggle Rock?
     
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  20. Colbynfriends

    Colbynfriends Well-Known Member

    I don't think it was voluntary, Fulton Mackay passed away during production:
    http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Fulton_MacKay
    "MacKay died between the second and third season and was replaced by John Gordon Sinclair."
    Also where was the clip posted? Could have been directly from the owner or another person's taped off of tv copy. I wish I knew why but I'm not really an expert. Just interested in lost media.
     
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