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Here We Go AGAIN...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by D'Snowth, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    What they're asking for isn't clear, exactly. Is this yet another misguided anti-piracy piece of crap that does nothing to solve the problem of people who wouldn't buy CD's or see movies anyway while turning a blind eye to physical format bootleggers?
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Alls I know is, I just take this stuff with a grain of salt any more... I mean, how many times has the government threaten to rid of us the internet? Better yet, how many times have has the government threaten to rid of us in the internet THIS YEAR ALONE?
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It's not really the government, it's companies that buy representation and lobbyists that want the government to step in and do stuff for them. Which is such a laugh when you think about it. We have these Grover Norquest jerks come in and tell the government hands off big business when the government wants to raise their taxes so they actually pay taxes and regulate them when they're too busy selling e-coli tainted lead paint, but when they stand to lose any sort of money it's always "AAAHHH! Big government! Come and save us! We can't function without you!"
  5. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    I really dunno what to think of this...in one way, I feel like we should be alarmed, but then again, as Snowth said, this is like deja vu.

    I'm getting so tired of standing up for the internet that pretty soon I'm gonna have to invest my money in a chair here...
    Bliffenstimmers likes this.
  6. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    If anything, more file sharing sites might go down, but I'm not going to get all upset until something actually happens
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I still wonder if that's the case. I just hope it isn't as pointless as SOPA/PIPA was... but then again, I'm pretty sure we're in the closing days of the Wild West part of the Internet. You know, before all the corporations take over an make it suck like everything else.

    Still, per every thousand people that bought a ticket to Avengers, there's probably less than one person that found a crappy video capture and downloaded it. The industry is still making money no matter what. "Stealing" is still "Stealing" but it's not like it's destroyed the film industry singlehandedly. This is the same hysteria that almost lost us the VCR!
  8. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    We've already lost a bit of the Wild West when we ignore all the ways Google manipulates the way we receive information.
  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    That's a point. I mean, look at all that's happened this year alone: the government completely shut down MegaUpload (and it's spinoff sites like MegaVideo), and Google alone cracked down on MediaConverter, Zamzar, clipconverter, among others.
  10. newsmanfan

    newsmanfan Well-Known Member

  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

  12. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Oh, so software is free for the taking? :p

    I wonder if this includes downloading stuff from youtube...I would imagine it might
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Probably.

    So, basically, every single person on the entire planet is pretty much in trouble now...
  14. Teheheman

    Teheheman Well-Known Member

    Ya know, you can shut down just about all the video sites out there BUT there will STILL be people that'll skirt the law. You'll NEVER GET RID OF ALL OF EM! Besides, if you shut down the internet, you'll pretty much shut down society. You realize all the stuff people do on the internet now-in-days?

    Daniel
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I blame jerks that put up full movies that are in theaters at the time. They wind up going after people who download songs that are completely too obscure and out of print and unavailable in their country because they fail to go after jerkwads that put up The Avengers shot from a theater.

    Of course, I'm sure there were a LOT of pirated copies of the Avengers on the internet... didn't exactly stop the film from being the third highest grossing film of all time.
  16. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Yes, leave The Pirate Bay alone, but go after YouTube instead. Makes wonderful sense. :rolleyes:
  17. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    The thing is, this is nothing new. IPs have been cracking down on illegal downloading for a while. I know a few people have been charged with illegal downloading on campus (we get occasional emails about illegal downloading on campus :p).

    The penalty system is new, but if you actually read the article, it still only applies if the company who owns the copyrights chooses to go after you. Its not saying if you download one thing you automatically get a warning.

    It's hard to say if this means they will be harder with the monitoring...honestly, I'm not entirely sure how a major company can track individual downloads of everyone on the internet, but I guess there's a way *shrugs*
  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Actually... it does. It's the same reason why Disney goes after Day Care centers for painting Mickey Mouse, yet completely ignores the lead paint covered bootlegged Incredibles toys, Chicken little "Sea Life" stickers, and Pooh plush made from poo fabric. One's just easier to deal with. Pirate Bay, you attack it, it manages to hide itself or attack back. It's much bigger than you'd think. Not to mention Youtube, unlike PB, is a legitimate company. If copyright is broken through them, they stand to lose money if they're sued. I'm sure Pirates bay would throw a couple sacrificial lambs at the lawyers and just move on to something else.
  19. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Doesn't seem like it could go anywhere. Grover Norquest is, shockingly, against this sort of regulation, and he usually gets what he wants. It's the one decent and human thing about that spoiled rich little snotball.


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