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How to Begin with Miss Piggy..?

Discussion in 'Muppet Replicas' started by MuppetsandMe, Jul 12, 2012.

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Is Clay a good option to mold the head of Miss Piggy? (I want her to be a puppet)

  1. Yes

    5 vote(s)
    23.8%
  2. No

    16 vote(s)
    76.2%
Multiple votes are allowed.

  1. MuppetsandMe

    MuppetsandMe New Member

    Hey guys! If you guys havnt read my newbie speech (SO inspirational!) I am planning on starting a Miss Piggy replica. Right now I am stuck. Where I live you can't just get a block of styro foam for some reason. I've tried messing with bits of styro foam I found but as expected it just doesn't work. I want to make the perfect Piggy to sit in my room and show you guys. This is my first muppet I am attempting.. I know she is hard to start with.. I just wanna know what I can use for the skull of Piggy.. That's affordable. I was thinking clay but wouldn't that just harden then crack ? Help guys! Thanks... Much appreciated, I just really want a couple of muppets in my life lol!
    Diego Fiorucci likes this.
  2. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    Good luck with that.She is difficult to make.Her head isnt styro foam.It is a more softer foam like rubber foam, which is why she breaks down fairly quickly.As for clay, are you going to use that to make a sculpt to make a mold from to do a foam pour?That should work.Maybe contact member Keermit here on this forum for advice as he has made a spot on Miss Piggy.
  3. MuppetsandMe

    MuppetsandMe New Member

    Well I want piggy reasonably convincing.. I want her to use her as a puppet.. Clay doesnt help that. I will contact him his work is amazing ! Thanks for the reply.
  4. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    So it sounds to me like you were thinking of using clay as the final product, which obviously wont work due to the weight and solidness.the clay sculpt is only to get a shape and then you would have to cast from it.
  5. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Good luck with however you decide to make her. Like muppetperson said she is a very hard character to make.
  6. pojksd

    pojksd New Member

    I think it is ok to do that
  7. Muppetboy09

    Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    I am with the majority here. Clay is NOT a good option for the head. If you are planning to use her as a puppet, the clay will harden, and you won't be able to move the mouth. And I agree with MP about the weight being a problem too. Good Luck!

    -MB
  8. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member

    :sing:: Just the idea of doing a replica of the pork princess will mean you'll have a weight problem.
    Muppet fan 123 and Muppetboy09 like this.
  9. catherine

    catherine Active Member

    ohh a pork princess, don't let her see that bit on here, she might do that karate chop on you, lol.
  10. RealWonderman

    RealWonderman Member

    Mine (in my avatar pic) was made of foam and then covered in antron fleece. You could also take one of the old FP puppets and cover the face with flocking. It's the perfect mold!
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  11. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    i think you need to do a lot of skechtes first off ethier that or lots of pictures of diffrent angles. now doing a clay scale model would also help, but would take more time. you would also have to be able to make it big enough to fit your hand. Good luck I can't wait to see what your fianl puppet will look like.
  12. Mraven322

    Mraven322 New Member

    Just checking to see how you're coming along with Ms Piggy!
  13. Kermieuk

    Kermieuk Well-Known Member

    Was looking through my old copy of life magazine with piggy president on the cover. There is an amazing picture inside of piggy's 'naked' body being built in the muppet workshop!! Might help some of you puppet builders?
    Chris
  14. Mraven322

    Mraven322 New Member

    sounds interesting!I'd be intersted in seeing it .do you have the issue #no?
  15. fragglerockr

    fragglerockr Member

    I think most people are assuming that the final product will be in clay thus making the puppet very heavy. That's not how this works. As Muppetperson said - The clay is only there to make the positive shape you want to cast (i.e. the sculpture). The final product will made from very lightweight foam latex. You will have to decide which kind you want to use. This will determine whether or not it will have to be baked. Some foams cure on their own and require no baking. These foams are generally harder than the soft foam latex used for Piggy but that is up to your discretion.

    I would make this caveat - if you don't know what your doing you should learn on something small and not so important. This can be a very expensive process and if you screw it up your first time out you will have a mess, will end up frustrated and possibly very angry.

    Most prototypes of props, masks, and prosthetics are made this way. First you sculpt the clay positive. Then you will have to cover the sculpture with plaster bandages making sure to allow both the front and the back half to be cast and able to separate once dry. Once the plaster is dry you pull both halves of the mold apart (this can be very tricky) so you must be careful. If you destroy the mold in the process you lose everything and have to start over. You then scrape out the remaining clay and make sure to clean both halves of the mold very carefully. This will destroy your original clay sculpture. Now you have a negative mold. Then you just follow the instructions for whatever kind of foam you get to make your casting. Once poured, baked (if necessary - be careful the fumes are toxic so have plenty of ventilation), then trimmed, you head will be ready for flocking, painting, eyes, mouth, hair, etc.

    If this seems too much, might I suggest patterning the head out of sheet foam or carving it from a block.
  16. KissesToKermie

    KissesToKermie Well-Known Member

    Yup, this muppet is very complex. But don't give up! Work on her little by little and I cannot wait to see your final product! :excited:


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