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I Think my Head's Been in the Clouds too Long...

Discussion in 'Friends and Family' started by D'Snowth, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. Bill Bubble Guy

    Bill Bubble Guy Well-Known Member

    I'm very sorry things are getting you down Snowth. :(

    Michelle and I plan to become more active here in the future and check out things on Youtube and other places. At the moment I'm hardly doing much online because the summer heat knocks me around. We definitely want to look at your Youtube channel together when I go back to America in October for three months. She has air-conditioning 24/7.

    I might even look at your videos myself when it finally cools off in Australia. I haven't got regular air-con access. One day I will be in regular contact with MC again I promise.

    And please don't let life get you down my friend. :)
  2. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Oh I see...I didn't realize that you had a following and it has since declined. I can certainly understand how that is discouraging. Didn't you say you do something on a PBS station out of where you live or am I mistaken?
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    No, you're right, I did, that's actually where I got my start back in 2004, originally just as a substitute puppeteer for their summer pledge drive because their regular puppeteer was unable to make it that week, so I offered my services, and Steve was born. He became a bit of a success, so I they let me perform again for the March 2005 and August 2005 pledge drives as well, but we haven't had any anymore since then because our intake kept dwindling far below their financial goals (mainly because of fanatical right-wing groups spreading propaganda telling people not support shows like SST and Arthur and Clifford for teaching tolerance and acceptance towards homosexuals), so they haven't really used me since then.
  4. TheWoodringman

    TheWoodringman Well-Known Member

    Boy, life has slapped me in the face a few times.
    Like for one, I thought I would've had a model train series online in 2008, but look, it's 2012 and it's never been put, up.
    Another thing, I've been wanting to do a remake of a movie for awhile, but I've been clueless on how to do it.
    But now, I'm trying to get into the hobby of RC tank combat, I seem to like the idea so I'm going to try.
    But for now, I'm just trying not to give up.
  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    The idea for my first puppet sitcom came to me in late 2007, and I was wanting to have it on the air by 2009, but if that didn't work, no later than 2012... well, 2012 is halfway over, and that still never came into fruition.

    I've got more ideas, more shows, more characters, etc in mind that I'm afraid I'll never get to do anything with.

    I've noticed lately, my parents seem to keep hinting that I need to get a REAL job (as in a thankless 9 to 5 job)... if that ever happens, then I'm just going to have to retire from puppetry, because there is no way I'm going to lower myself to the level some people did ("Oh, I was a waiter before I became an actor", "Oh, I worked at McDonald's before I had my first contract", etc). Jim Henson didn't get into it that way. Sid & Marty Krofft didn't get into that way. I don't want to be in it that way.
  6. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    But you're not going to let it happen, right? You can't just give up on puppeteering like that. :)
  7. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Every actor says they won't do that...until the heating bill arrives. ;)
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  8. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    Or they just try to survive without heat.
  9. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Some do, yes. But if they have a family that becomes more difficult. I really see no shame in an artist having to earn a living. You're not helping your craft much if you're not taking care of yourself.
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  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    With this brutal TN climate, I can live very much without heat.
  11. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Don't you get snow there too?
  12. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Snow? Pfft.

    This past winter was the first winter, that I can remember, where we practically got no snow... maybe a couple of flurries at best. The last two or three winters before that, we did actually have unusual amounts of accumulation (the winter of 2010-2011 we actually had a LOT of ice too) which has been great, but an winter for us will have one overnight snow (which can get up to three inches) that promptly melts the next morning when the sun rises.
  13. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Lol, fair enough. I still say there's nothing wrong with an artist having to work in the beginning. It's just reality.
  14. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    I don't think it's having to work that bothers D'Snowth, I think its the fact that he doesn't want to be one of those people who have these humble beginnings as a lowly waiter, then suddenly rockets up to stardom, that he wants to be someone who always knew what they wanted to do, not one who gave up on his life and by luck was successful.
  15. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Kinda-sorta... I just don't want to be among the masses, so-to-speak... I'm not like everyone else, therefore, I really don't want to be like everyone else, if you see what I'm saying. The REAL greats, the ones who are my heroes, weren't like everyone else, they managed to do their own thing in their own way, which is what I would like to do, I just want to do my own thing my own way.
  16. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    Yep. I see what you're saying. I agree with you. I'd like to also kinda do my own separate thing. And it's true: the people in the entertainment who actually made a positive impact, most of them did that by doing they're own thing, doing it their way. Cause if you do it someone elses, way, you've got to live up to their standards.
  17. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I think the waiter/actors also know what they want to do and they haven't given up. It's just that it can take a long time for an artist to make it and in the meantime you have to eat. That's what Muppets Take Manhattan is all about, having to go to the school of hard knocks before you can be successful.

    And a huge percent of what makes any artist successful is luck. You don't hear about all the other people who didn't make it, but it's not because they didn't try as hard as everyone else.

    The Beatles didn't wait around until the best clubs wanted them, they played in the worst joints imaginable for years. Only for their first record to be just playing background accompaniment to some singer. They could have said no to these less than satisfying opportunities but they didn't because they knew how to take their knocks.
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  18. newsmanfan

    newsmanfan Well-Known Member

    I agree with Heralde. Snowth, just because having to work your way through life in order to be able to afford to pursue your art is "common" that's no reason to turn up your nose at it and give up your art! This is NOT an either/or dilemma. It's a "making your life work" situation and that's ALL it is.

    If your artist's manifesto does not include supporting yourself somehow...then it's an unrealistic manifesto. That said, I hope you continue your puppeteering. You're good.
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  19. Frogpuppeteer

    Frogpuppeteer Well-Known Member

    Remember Joseph, even Jim started small...he was doing Puppets for local channels before he even made it somewhat big in college with sam and friends since NBC saw potential in him...it really is all in a way blind luck...im not saying give up but just its ok to have another job and still pursue your dreams, even if what you do during the day is flip burgers...theres no shame in that...as my own mother used to put it she always wanted me to get another job. not to help her or to give up my dream but to help myself in my own puppetry and video editing and equipment

    i could sit and spew examples of my own life of success and what seems failures...right now im in a rut and nothings come along but ive find other wok on the side to help myself in these down times, so from one hopeful puppeteer to another dont give up and dont feel bad about looking for a second option for funds
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