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Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by Janice & Mokey's Man, Dec 12, 2006.
I wonder if anyone else isn't looking forward to it, or if it's just me.
Dude, you are definately intitled to your own opinion. I'm pretty happy about it all, seeing all the characters come together after 20-something odd years, but I'm not thinking about it all the time nor am I doing cartwheels so I'm not like, extremely exited or anything.
I am looking forward to the movie i just hope us aussies get it released here in australia.
it may very well be you lol could you please tell us why?
Me I'm very excited but also worried but it's been so many years sure there could be plenty of bad things in it but I really don't see Brian letting that happen.
Wha huh? Byron, as one of the biggest FR fanatics here on MC, I'd've thought you'd be enthusiastic over the possibility of the pending cinematic debut of the Fraggles. It's OK if you're not, I'm just trying to understand your position on the issue.
Well, when I get so kindredly close with something, I get very apprehensive of future projects concerning it and what changes there may be.
Case in point: Narnia. Those are my favorite books, I've loved them since childhood and am so closely connected with them, and I was so deeply disappointed and let down by the theatrical version. I haven't seen it on DVD, and have no desire to watch it again---once was enough (in fact I would have gladly boycotted the DVDs in a protest had one been around). I do greatly enjoy the BBC version, because first of all I was exposed to it in childhood, so it's nostalgaic, and second of all they basically lifted the words right off the pages and brought them to life---which is the only way to do a book-to-movie, IMO. At least a book I'm so closely connected with, that is.
And Fraggle Rock...it's one of the shows dearest to me not only from my childhood (though I rarely got to see it), but in all genres of television shows period. But it's 20 years later! I may have been on board with this in 1988 or 1989, but decades later, I'm very shaky on how it will turn out...the Muppeteers' voices have aged, so the characters will sound different, we're in different times now, I don't know how much any personalities will change, etc. And from a few "hopeful hints" I read in a sticky thread here about the film, something may happen which I do NOT want to see happen in the Fraggle Rock universe, concerning the Gorgs.
I know many folks are excited about it, this is just my anxious viewpoint...it just seems odd to have this occur so many years later, and with all the changes that could bring that some fans like me may not like.
Well I kind of agree with you, Janice&Mokey'sMan. I'm not automatically happy with the idea of a Fraggle movie, just because their track record of late has disapointed. I'm just going to hope it works out.
Plus, even if it is a good movie, you can't go home again. It will never be exactly as it was before. That's why something's a classic, it can't be easily repeated.
As a production, I'm sure it will be fine, and we can all use another good quality family picture out there, especially for the kids. But without Jim, Jerry and Richard I doubt it can caprture the magic or live up to the fan base's expectations. Personally, while I appreciated the production and what Jim was trying to do, I was never into the whole "Fraggle" thing, so It makes no matter to me if it comes out or not, except where my working puppeteer friends are concerned.
I just think it's yet another "Who cares?" from the Henson Company. I mean, was ther any real demand for this? Put it up against the latest Pixar release or even "Shrek" and I doubt it would get much of an audience, except from preschoolers who don't pay to get in anyway.
Seems to be just an excuse to sell more DVDs and plush for the Disney Licensing division.
Well they don't, but their parents do!
Is Disney now licensing the Jim Henson Company properties? They didn't get Fraggle Rock in the deal, only The Muppets and Bear. I don't know if Diz is selling JHC properties, though.
I kind of look forward to it. Zappa seems to be on target with keeping things original to the series, so if he does that I'm game. I just worry when they start saying "cameos" because I know the history of the JHC with their cameos in Muppets from Space, and the actor playing the Crocodile Hunter (ugh) in VMX. Though, if played off like the cameos in the original 3 Muppet films, it could work.
I look more forward to it than I am apprehensive about it.
Am I missing the point somewhere? What is it that people as so afraid of concerning the Gorgs?
I for one am looking forward to the movie with child-like naivety and excitement.
I think I stopped being that way after seeing Muppet Christmas Carol (I know a lot of people like it and that's fine, but it wasn't my favorite Muppet film).
However, I've actually been pretty excited about the Fraggle film. All my friends think I'm crazy for believing it will turn out well. But I'm hoping we'll be surprised.
I think it's mainly the fact that Richard Hunt isn't around. After all Junior just isn't gonna be the same unless the voice is right.
It could be that, I guess...but we have had many voice changes in the past (especially after so much time) and they have been ok...not great...but not daunting.
I wouldn't mind if they used another voice, as long as it's true to the character.
The only thing is, Zappa said he couldn't really talk about the Gorgs, that it was top secret. Now either that means he has big plans that he doesn't want to discuss. Or, he has no idea if they can use the Gorgs and he's being evasive. Just have to wait and see!
Hmm...I guess that's true. My guess is that he's either talking about Gorgs and Fraggles working together/computer animated Gorgs/Gorg's garden leading into outer-space.
For what its worth, i'm a bit mixed on the idea. I like the idea they are trying to stay true to the show, and i like the idea that music will play a big part, and they don't really have much option other than to get a lot of the original crew back on board. What Zappa says is for the most part very cool. However i don't really like the plotline, i don't like the idea of the celebrity cameos (unless they are really amazing choices, and for a small budget retro flick, i dont see how they can be), and i think 2009 is going to be way off target for this kind of film. It kinda needed to be now, while that market is hot. They should have had this idea years ago. People will be into other stuff by then. I'm also not convinced there is a big enough market for a Fraggle Rock film, infact i think it's painfully obvious there isn't - and this film does not have the backing of any major backers or distributors as yet. I can see it being another "Five Children & It" and that was another Henson company production that didn't really do the original justice, or recieve the promotion or exposure a film like that should have had. I'm not even sure i can see this Fraggle film actually making it into theatres.
Well the Fat Albert film had the same problem. They hadn't properly set up their young audience for who Fat Albert even was. Of course, that might not have mattered if the movie was well written! (I did like it, some parts were very sweet, but the plot was paper thin.)
I guess this good be a problem. The first thing they need to do is set up the relatioships..not change them, set them up. And then launch into the story.
As with X-men (I've used this analogy before). They didn't just start by throwing a million X-men on the streen the way they do in the third movie, they set things up slowly and carefully.
I'd say I'm deffenitely looking forward to it, but I have my reservations. I'm torn here. Fraggle Rock is a wonderful show, and I would love to see a movie version... but it would have to be done right. When I say done right, I mean perfect. Fraggle Rock is the finest children's television show ever made. I'm a firm believer in that the world would be a far better place if all the world's leaders were forced to sit down and watch Fraggle Rock from beginning to end. It's a hard thing to achieve, and it'll be interesting to see if they can pull it off as well with the film.
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