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Jason Segel talks The Muppets and his inspiration

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by foxa, Aug 30, 2010.

  1. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    Its not like I went out of my way, I recently ran across some of his comments by chance while searching through a site. And its not just him, there seems to be quite a few people out there who think that the Muppets are old news.
    Its really disheartening, and it makes me nervous about the Muppets' future. Sometimes I'm not sure if there are enough Muppet fans who are willing to go see them on the big screen.

    Still, I understand what you are saying. It just peeves me that he even exists. There are so few places these days where there are NOT trolls on the Internet.

    And frogboy; Please don't lecture me. I know exactly what I said before, and it was NOT "several times"
    My main grip was how he responded it to my comment about Cars not being all about NASCAR. If you want you can go back and see for yourself. It was rude, sarcastic, and smart-alecy. Where was the politeness and respect? That it what got me started.

    I'm done with that now. I'm sorry if I caused trouble.

    I just hope that no one is upset with me now. I am not the kind to go looking for trouble.

    But seriously, is there any update about the filming?
  2. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    It's probably not intentional, but you've referenced the movie incident three times already in posts 51, 68 and 81. It's just that sort of trolling/baiting aimed toward Beaker that will get a perfectly good thread shut down. I'm not upset, but want to avoid his or your hurt feelings saturating this topic. I haven't reported this behavior because the poor moderators have better things to do. Just agree to disagree, move on please and don't belabor the point. He has different tastes than you, but he never insulted you personally. Muppet Central is not a place for that. Thank you. :attitude:

    Back on topic...the latest news is that shooting has not yet started. It will likely begin later this month or early next. Also, Amy Adams is in talks to star along side Jason Segel. She's adorable and would make a perfect fit for the Muppets! :)
  3. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    That's what I just said I would do...

    So...updates on filming?
  4. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Cool! So moving on...could filming be held up due to additional casting? The new reports of Amy Adams as an addition seem to reflect that not all is set-to-go quite yet. I think she's a perfect fit for the Muppets!
  5. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    Yeah, sounds good.

    Though I have to admit that I am getting a bit worried, I'm hoping that this movie will still get delivered on schedule.
  6. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    I don't think there's any worry about getting it out by next Christmas. From my very, very limited inside knowledge, the hold up is due to being able to get everyone there in one cluster of time. Like Jamie referenced and the Entertainment Weekly article said, Amy Adams has two other movies going on, Jason Segel has a huge TV show and presumably other films, and the cameo stars are probably double or triple booked as well. I'm not positive by any means, but I would think that the delayed filming is so that they can find a time that works for all of the actors.
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Or, knowing him, he has multiple accounts so he can agree with himself. :eek: As I've always said, CGI was magical... once. Now, even local furniture commercials have them. I see what you're talking about, but those people wouldn't want to see something good anyway. They go to CGI movies because they are CGI, and there's a lot less magic in animals dancing hip hop than their is in being innovative. Even if I didn't like the Muppets, I'd say there's a lot more magic in Kermit riding a bike than all of the pointless bouncy CGI characters in the Star Wars prequels and special editions. Yes, it was nice to see Yoda in action and do backflips, but the rest of the time, he just felt dead. Even if it's done right, it still feels like it's pasted in.

    My best advice is ignore it. They purposely want to get to you, especially what'shisname who probably has a different alias every week. There's a difference in saying something can't really make a come back (with the misfires they've had since 2005, even die hards felt that way), and someone who spends his time going ON AND ON about it over and over. You make your point once, twice, several times... but not every time you hear there's a t-shirt for sale somewhere. There clearly are more people out there who want to actually see something that isn't a bunch of animals hip hop dancing. This will be different. And unless James Cameron pulls another over-hyped ego-piece out of no where, I'm sure that there will at least be a big family audience.
  8. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    Yes, I get what you are saying. Usually I do ignore it, but sometimes a guy just gets sick of hearing about it, and a guy just needs to vent!

    Generally, CGI is not necessarily a bad thing, but when used to excess, yes, it can be boring. Story should come first.

    A long as you mentioned Star Wars, its incredible to me that almost every frame of the new movies involves green/blue screen in some way. Sometimes it even looks fake when the characters are in a completly digital environment.
  9. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    ...Oh, and one more quick note about Gnomeo and Juliet;

    I just found out from Wikipedia that initially, the film was going to be produced by Disney Animation, but John Lasseter shut it down. So eventually Touchstone got it.

    So, another reason to be thankful for John Lasseter!

    And its interesting to note, that on the audio commentary of Toy Story 2, after Hamm's line involving a lawn gnome, co-director Lee Unkrich says "We should make a whole movie about lawn gnomes" And Lasseter sternly says "Lee!" To which Lee relipes; "I'm fired aren't I?" :D :o
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Sometimes you just gotta say that you like what you like, and no one can ever take that from you. Not even a self righteous twit that clearly has some issues.

    Animation of any kind is just a medium. A way to sell the story and bring it to life. Again, I bring up two extremes on the matter. Rocky and Bullwinkle (the cartoon, That is) had some of the worst animation known to mankind (due to being outsourced to a very dismal little Mexican studio) but with great writing, great directing, and great voice acting, the show was one of the greatest things to happen in the realm of animation. Then take Pocahontas... the animation was beautiful, but it suffered from a terrible plot, bad writing, bad dialogue, dumb songs, historic revisioning, and even the voice acting was flat. Only person who sounded good was David Ogden Steirs. Mel Gibson was much better in Chicken Run. So yes, story, writing, acting and all that should always come first. But unfortunately, only a handful of people actually care about doing it that way.

    I mentioned it in a thread in General Discussion. The fact they went over his head to release it does worry me. That said, if Disney wants to make a movie about inanimate ornamental creatures that have a secret life, they need to make one of these guys
  11. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    In the lasted "D23's DisneyGeek" video on youtube, the new Muppet film is mentioned. The release date is mentioned as well as writers/director.

    According to the video, the plot details and title are being kept "under tight-wraps".
  12. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Man I'm feeling those butterfly goosebumps just *thinking* about the teaser posters we'll be seeing lining local cinema walls, as well as a teaser trailer.

    The fact the film's two main human stars are two big up and comers is insanely cool. All they need to do is add Zach Galafawhathisnamewiththebeard, Michael Cera, Jonah Hill, Russel Brand, Jesse Eisenberg, and maybe some real big cameos.

    I'm glad this movie is being treated like a big ticket flagship title, and not some second or third tier venture meant to fly under the radar(ala MFS in 1999, which admittedly got lost in the huge summer 1999 shuffle) I have a feeling they'll be marketing this to the hip scott pilgrim/get him to the greek college crowd as much as to families and kids.
  13. ZeppoAndFriends

    ZeppoAndFriends Well-Known Member

    As long as they don't over do it (i.e. overshadow the Muppets with the cameos; try to be 'hip' and fail miserably), I think that'd be a great way to market this movie. :cool:

    Tell the world that they are back and (hopefully) better than ever! :excited:
  14. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure we're talking about people who can agree what we love and hate about Muppet movies. I'm sure whatever cameos will at least be indicative of the writers and director involved and no WWF dudes, no pop stars... none of that stuff.
  16. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Sorry, Dr., but I'm going to have to very strongly disagree with you on Pocahontas, which is one of my favorites and very much underappreciated. IMO, your opinions on it are very overly-negative, hateful, biased and just make me want to cry and feel bad about liking what I like.

    In addition to the beautiful animation, the songs and music scores in it are some of the best to ever come out of the Disney Studio ever wrote ("Colors of the Wind" won the Academy Award for Best Song, for one thing) and the writing, acting, voice acting and dialogue ARE wonderful and deserve to be enjoyed for what they are.

    Not every animated film has to have constant in-your-face action and suspense all the time.

    And forget about all that "historic revision" garbage (an undeserved slant towards this masterpiece--a criticism about it that has always irritated me). After all, it's just a movie!

    My advice: Maybe you should re-watch that film more and more and maybe you'll learn to be more appreciative of it.

    (sigh) Okay, rant over. Please don't bite my head off...
  17. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    Its alright Duke, we all have topics that we are sensitive about. I'm sure that dr.tooth didn't mean to upset anyone.

    Sometimes things that others say will hit a nerve, and one just needs to rant. I understand what you were trying to say.
    Its understandable. And I know how you feel, I am a fan of several Disney movies that I feel are constantly under-appreciated.
  18. Kimp the Shrimp

    Kimp the Shrimp Well-Known Member

    Amy Adams is in final negotiations to star in Disney’s The Muppets. The deal is not yet closed, but sources tell EW.com that she is nearing a signed agreement to play Jason Segel’s girlfriend who joins him on a road trip to Los Angeles to the Muppet Studios. The film, which reunites the Muppets on the big screen for the first time since 1999′s Muppets From Space, will be directed by James Bobin (co-director of Flight of the Conchords) from a script by Segal and Nick Stoller (director of Forgetting Sarah Marshall and Get Him to the Greek).
    Production is set to begin in November in Los Angeles and will introduce a new Muppet named Walter. Disney has set Christmas 2011 for its release date.
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    No way. The three times I suffered through it were bad enough. That said, a LOT of people agree with me about it. The problem is that was back when they were still hard pressed to get back into Princess type movies (can't see why... Lion King was no where near Princessy and it was one of the greatest things they ever done... it was so good even the DTV sequel was enjoyable). I think it was the first in many missteps (though I really liked Hercules, and Mulan was pretty good too.... Hunchback was good for the Gargoyles). I dunno, maybe if Pokey had some sort of wacky sidekick that talked to her instead of capered about... Maybe if the film had a Genie/Timon and Pumbaa/Tito type character it would have been more fun to watch. But I was really disappointed by that film. That said, I wasn't too thrilled with Tarzan... but that's because I didn't see it big screen.

    Sorry if you took that personally, but I just don't see it comparing to anything else they did, past or present favorably. And this is as an honest animation student, cartoon critic wanna be (thanks for filling up the field everyone who managed to get a computer in 2004). It's hardly the glory of the Little Mermaid/Beauty and the Beast/Aladdin/Lion King that made you sing the songs out of the theater, rushing over to the Disney store to buy up anything and everything with the characters on it.

    For the record, the only 3 Disney films I ever really disliked were Pocahontas, the Live action 101 Dalmatians movies (offered little else to a classic) and Treasure Planet. I managed to enjoy most of the rest. I never speak about Home on the Range... that confused me.
  20. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I can agree with you on Pocahontas. It was historically inaccurate and the story wasn't as strong as other Disney films. I wasn't impressed with the villain either, but it did have some fun supporting animals as usual. I always love those bits. And yeah, it is pretty to look at.

    However, I loved Treasure Planet. It wasn't perfect, but it was fun and I felt it honored the source material. It's my second favorite telling of the tale!;)

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