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Kermit Parody on Saturday Night Live

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by Don'tLiveonMoon, Oct 11, 2003.

  1. Don'tLiveonMoon

    Don'tLiveonMoon New Member

    ON SNL tonight, Justin Timberlake was the special guest, and about halfway through the show he said when he was little he always made sure he watched SNL and The Muppet Show, so he always dreamed of hosting SNL and singing with Kermit. At that point a counterfeit Kermit popped up and they started singing "Rainbow Connection" together. The first verse was very nice and happy, then he and the puppeteer (Chris Parnell maybe? I'm not sure) started fighting and it got kinda ugly from there... !:eek: Not to mention the voice changed from Kermit to Bullwinkle... :confused: It was kinda funny, though, and nice at least to see a nod to the Muppet Show.
    Erin
  2. Dilbertos2

    Dilbertos2 New Member

    saturday night live and kermit

    saturday night live on oct 11 did a skit with justin timberlake and a fake kermit the frog where they sang "the rainbow connection" half way through the skit justin timberlake kicks the fake kermit the frog and beats up the fake kermit. As a huge muppet fan, i think saturday night live has crossed the line this time with their jokes. I found it to be in poor taste and very wrong. The rainbow connection is a classic song and the best muppet song ever. It was not fun in any way. I can't believe that saturday night live would make fun of an cultural icon like kermit the frog. I know that saturday night live has made fun of different cultural icons in the past but you don't make fun of kermit the frog. At one moment in the skit, Justin says to kermit "you're a great singer kermit" kermit says "so are you justin, maybe you, me and p diddy should cut an album" This is so wrong and every true muppet fun should write to satuday night live and tell them how stupid they are for doing this.

    Anyways, if the real kermit the frog was getting beat up by justin timberlake, miss piggy would have given justin a black eye.
  3. jediX

    jediX Active Member

    Yet to see that part but SNL has used a fake Kermit before. Wasn't insulting, though... he was giving away an award on some fake award show.
  4. Dilbertos2

    Dilbertos2 New Member

    making fun of Kermit the Frog

    Its not right to make fun of kermit the frog. SNL didn't get permission from anyone to make fun of kermit the frog. It would take too long to get permission to allow them to do that. So SNL just went ahead with the skit and did it.

    THIS YEAR SHOULD BE SNL"S LAST YEAR
  5. Don'tLiveonMoon

    Don'tLiveonMoon New Member

    I agree the second half was in pretty poor taste, though certainly nothing surprising coming from SNL. I thought for a minute it might just be a nice Justin and Kermit duet, but then I figured if it had been they would have gotten the real Kermit to come in. I figured something was up. Well, it was nice if you just stop it after the first verse...
    Erin
  6. Amazing Mumford

    Amazing Mumford New Member

    Well, I didn't see SNL tonight, but the show makes fun of EVERYTHING. That's just its style of humor. As you hinted at, they've spoofed dozens of other TV shows, commercials, and movies. They parodied Mr. Roger's Neighborhood in the 80's and it was one of their best recurring skits. I don't know why the Muppets should be an exception. Personally, I don't think this is that big of deal and it actually sounds kind of funny.

    Also, I'm not sure why the "cut an album" joke would be a problem. The Muppets have said far edgier things in their own productions. If anythng, the joke seems lame but it's not offensive in the least (at least to me).
  7. Don'tLiveonMoon

    Don'tLiveonMoon New Member

    They never *do* get permission to make fun of people, though, do they? Other than with the guest host maybe. SNL slams pretty much anything and everything. And very often, there's really no basis in reality. I think their funniest impersonations et. al. are when they're based on actual personality quirks that person has. If they just make stuff up that the person would never do, it's kinda pointless. I'd put the Kermit thing in the "kinda pointless" category. I guess they were trying to be funny by making him act the opposite of what was expected. Pretty dumb, but nothing out of the ordinary for them. I don't think it's worth getting too worked up about. SNL is just a really irreverent show. :rolleyes:
    Erin
  8. Don'tLiveonMoon

    Don'tLiveonMoon New Member

    Yeah, I didn't see anything wrong with the album comment either...
    Erin
  9. Dilbertos2

    Dilbertos2 New Member

    "Cut an album" line in skit

    The line was wrong because if you remember what happened with p diddy a few years ago with the whole gun thing at the club. The muppets are better then all of that and don't need to be assocaited with stuff like that. The muppets are wholesome charracters. Also jutsin timberlake is a dork and as a kid, he was on the mickey mouse club.
  10. Don'tLiveonMoon

    Don'tLiveonMoon New Member

    What's wrong with the Mickey Mouse Club? :halo:
    Erin
  11. Ryan

    Ryan New Member

    Wholesome? Wow..we must teach you differently ;)
    Don't forget, the Muppets did work on SNL for a year back in 1975, on a series of sketches called Land Of Gorch..SNL wirters hated "writing for felt", as they put it. But the skethes were very adult and funny. They ranged from Drug use to "Sex Devices"...all with a touch of Muppet Magic.
  12. goldenarrow05

    goldenarrow05 New Member

    i just finished watching the skit and personally i think it was hilarious..... The Muppet Show was based on satire just as saturday night live is.... not to mention the fact that the henson company built muppets for reoccuring skits in the 70's so i dont see as where they would have a problem of being poked at on the show. i think too many people associate the muppets with children. if it were barney we would all sit back and laugh but instead we complain some of us take things way to personal and seriously....
  13. jediX

    jediX Active Member

    Dude, calm down. I wasn't saying it was right. I'm watching it right now. The episode I referenced in NO WAY insulted Kermit. He was merely a badly-performed camero. The sketch was in the early 90s, I believe.

    Then this came on. Yes, it was a really crappy sketch but that's the thing about these shows. A year or two ago Conan O'Brien had a fake Kermit jump off a building. That's just the junk you get in late-nite tv.

    And since when have you needed permission to make fun of someone? I've been making fun of Justin for years. ; And what does him being on the Mickey Mouse Club have to do with anything?

    This wasn't an official Kermit! Had this been ACTUAL Kermit and Steve Whitmire then it would have been offending to me. Yes it was tacky but as Erin said its nothing to lose your mind about.

    Ok, enough ranting...I'm out.
  14. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Active Member

    I bet there are Justin Timberlake fans (he has what, like twelve? :p) who would take as much offense to your comment as you took to the SNL sketch Dilbertos. I'm with Erin, SNL makes fun of everybody. The Muppets shouldn't be a sacred cow.
  15. Saginaw

    Saginaw New Member

    Can they get sued for this? I'm thinking probably not, unless the Muppets' caretakers can find an incredible loophole in the First Amendment to use against SNL.

    I didn't find the sketch funny, but I didn't find it over-the-top either, as SNL has already done that so many times over that just about nothing is shocking anymore on that program.

    Really, I just thought it was nothing more than 'filler' to pad out the show. Sure, to see Kermit (at least a pale imitation of Kermit) tossing out choice words through his puppetmaster (notice I didn't say 'Muppeteer') wasn't anything to be shocked at, but then again it shows that the writers went after what is assumed to be a 'sacred cow' and used the perversion of a wholesome image just for a few cheap and forced laughs.

    Now for me, what WAS funny on SNL was the sketch where the male actors parodied a recording session of the old '70s band Blue Oyster Cult and their classic hit 'Don't Fear The Reaper' and former SNL-er Will Ferrell is dancing around and banging away on a cowbell. No hurt feelings anywhere from anyone, since something like that COULD have happened.

    To sum things up, Dilbertos, it's okay to be upset with what you saw tonight. Some people might also feel like you do, but then some people might find that funny, and others won't care either way. If you really want to send a statement, just turn off the tv and don't watch SNL again.

    Like a wise man once said, "Just because you can do it, doesn't always mean you should do it".


    --Saginaw
  16. chicagogonzo

    chicagogonzo New Member

    First time poster here, and I'm getting sleepy so I hope that it makes sense. I just watched the SNL ep a couple of hours ago and I have to say that I am a little upset. Not so much that they made fun of Kermit (SNL does that to everybody). I'm upset because before the ghetto Kermit popped up I thought that it might actually be the real Kermit that was about to come out. I thought that maybe SNL and Henson might be capitalizing on Kermit's recent appearances on Kimmel and VH1, two more adult venues than the Muppets are more recently used to, and decided to bring him to the big daddy of late night. Also, the skit happened at around the same time as the second musical number usually does, so when I saw JT on the band set, I thought that this would be a straight music spot instead of a sketch. Needless to say, I felt a little deflated when the fake Kermit popped up and got ready for fun at Kermit's expense.

    Also, I have a legal question concerning this sketch. We all know that SNL makes fun of all pop culture icons, but when they make fun of say George Bush or Sharon Osborne, they're making fun of real people who are part of public domain. Even though Kermit is a cultural icon, wouldn't SNL have to get permission to use his image (even though it was a faux Kermit) because he is a licensed character owned by the Henson company? This might not apply had it been some random green frog-like puppet, but since they directly stated that it was Kermit don't copyrights and licensing come into play? Also, since they sang over half the song, wouldn't they have to pay to use Rainbow Connection? I'm just wondering because no acknowledgements were made in the credits.

    Anywho, sorry if this rambled, I was just wondering about those things.

    Chicagogonzo
  17. Don'tLiveonMoon

    Don'tLiveonMoon New Member

    I agree about the straight music thing, I thought the same when it first came on. I thought, "Oh, awesome, Justin and KErmit are gonna sing 'Rainbow Connection' together! :)" And once the fake Kermit popped up I was kinda disappointed too. It could've been really sweet, and was for a while... Ah well. Leave it to SNL. You bring up an interesting point in your second paragraph, and I really don't know how that works so I'm not sure what the deal is there. I would think it's still covered by the parody thing, but maybe not. :confused:
    Erin
  18. jediX

    jediX Active Member

    Maybe they did get permission to use the song, who knows.
  19. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    It actually sounds like it was funy. I have heard something much more insulting here on the radio about two or three years ago.

    They had Gonzo looking up at the sky with a telescope, and then he turned and looked through the window opposite his house (this was after MFS)

    Gonzo sounded nothing like Gonzo, and it was not very "wholesome" but in it's own way it was funny.

    Remeber, the Muppet's have paradied pleanty of things. Just think how George Lucas must have felt after the Star Wars show!?
  20. AndyWan Kenobi

    AndyWan Kenobi Active Member

    I bet they had to pay for the song. It's not a parody, since it was actually the original music and lyrics. Even Weird Al has to pay for parody songs, since he uses the original music.

    As for the skit, I thought it was okay. Not terribly offensive, not particularly funny either. Just kind of dumb and trashy :grouchy: actually. If you're not a muppet fan, (or maybe just a casual fan), I can see how it might have been amusing. Still, my wife and I watched Rocky Mountain Holiday last night, and so I was a little too much into the sweetness of the Muppets to appreciate the skit.


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