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Little things we've noticed

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by minor muppetz, Aug 18, 2009.

  1. cjd874

    cjd874 Well-Known Member

    Are you talking about the 1970s city backdrop seen in the "City/Country Song" and "Super Grover: Bus Stop" segments? Or the 1980s one from "I Love My Elbows" and "Cooperation Makes It Happen"?
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  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    The latter.
     
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  3. cjd874

    cjd874 Well-Known Member

    Got it! I never noticed how cool all these backdrops are before. I do remember other musical inserts with these detailed backdrops like "Born to Add" and "Hace Calor." Not to mention the great playground backdrop in "I Can't Get No Cooperation." That one has always stood out to me for some reason. Oh, and the farm backdrop that they used in the 1970s.

    Being an aesthetically inclined person, I appreciate the work that the Sesame Street scenery designers put in.
     
  4. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Yes, another reason why I'm put off by the excessive CGI and chromakey they use nowadays.
     
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  5. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    I always loved those backdrops/city settings.

    I especially liked seeing the first one at night (on the subway, Danger's No Stranger, the Dragnet Wanted W skit, etc.)
     
  6. cjd874

    cjd874 Well-Known Member

    There is such a stark contrast between the various backgrounds that they used on SS. Come to think of it, there have been so many backgrounds over the years:
    • The hand-painted city/country landscapes
    • The solid-colored backgrounds that they basically still use today (blue, green, pink, beige, black, orange, etc.)
    • Specially constructed sets (the Count's castle, Ernie and Bert's apartment, Charlie's Restaurant, Monsterpiece Theatre, classrooms, the park from the 1990s, etc.)
    • The "reverse-123" facade from "Cooperation Makes It Happen," "Born to Add," and "I Love My Elbows"
    • Of course, Sesame Street itself is a masterpiece, not to mention the "Around the Corner" expansion
     
  7. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    You know, random note, but speaking of those solid color background drops, whenever I watch a Waiter Grover skit and Grover heads to the "kitchen" to see Charlie, I always like to spot what kind of backdrop they use behind the doors.
     
  8. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    In "Surprise!" (Little Jerry song), I noticed (and found it to be a little odd) that Rockin' Richard had angry eyebrows under his early 70's Tarzan-styled hair.

    I dunno if that was just to give him a menacing "caveman" look, but still..... Weird, man. Weird.

    Also, that proto Green Monotone, of course, has Big Jeffy's hat. :p
     
  9. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Oddly enough, I noticed the captions incorrectly label Grover as Elmo on the Ray Charles alphabet video.

    (On an unrelated subject, I wish there was a piano sheet for the chords played in his performance).
     
  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Closed captions for anything SST never match the actual dialogue that's being spoken . . . I guess whoever does the captioning figure little kids can't real full and complete sentences yet, so they just overly simplify the lines for them.
     
  11. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Well, it's certainly less irritating then what the blind kids have to endure with those audio descriptions. :p

    Y'know, when I was little I always assumed that Alan had a receding hairline. But, his hair has looked like that for the almost 20 years he's been on the show and it doesn't appear to have changed. I guess he just has a large forehead. :smirk:
     
  12. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Sure it's changed: it's gotten grayer in recent years.
     
  13. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    But he still doesn't appear to be going bald.

    Slightly off topic but, I have a friend who's only seventeen and he's already going bald. Poor guy.
     
  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I've heard about certain people going bald at really young ages, but I've also heard about other people who go completely gray at young ages too.

    I'm not sure about the balding factor, but I heartell people with darker hair tend to gray younger and faster than people who have lighter/blonder hair. I guess that explains why a lot of people with dark hair seem to get gray sideburns in such a short time.
     
  15. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Sadly started to grey by 19. :smirk: and college certainly took a toll on it.
     
  16. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Not much of a "little" thing, but uh.... I was watching the In/Out Disco skit with the monsters, and listening to Harry Monster's voice, I used to think it was Jerry Nelson, but now it actually sounds like Michael Earl when I listen more closely (unless my ears are playing tricks on me).
     
  17. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    I wasn't sure where else to put this, but it is something that came into mind...

    If you think about the vocal range for the Frazzletones, you could essentially have a Little Chrissy and the Alphabeats song, putting aside the obvious fact that one of the members looks like Little Chrissy:

    Blue monster - Little Chrissy

    Lavender monster - Lavender Alphabeat

    Maurice - Green Alphabet
     
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  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure I mentioned this before in another thread, but it seems like the Monotones were a lot more gender-neutral in the first few seasons, in that they could be either male or female, depending on who was performing them. Chrissy seemed to go back and forth the most since it wasn't uncommon for him to be performed by Fran or even Caroll using a feminine voice, but I'm fairly sure that even Rockin' Richard, for whatever reason, was female in at least one number. There was an occasion where Fran even performed Little Jerry (because Jerry Nelson was doing Big Jeffy in the bit), but only uttered one line in a really flat, deadpan voice, so it's a lot more ambiguous.
     
  19. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    I def think Jerry and Chrissy could be gender neutral since the former was performed by Fran in the Grover "walk" skit, occasionally had a higher voice and was referred to as a girl on Shalhom Sesame and the latter had a feminine look in earlier appearances (namely Mad, where we can assume based on the appearance the vocals from Fran were intended for him, not to mention how even more girly his voice was in the album version, and listening more carefully, it actually sounds like Carroll alongside Chris Cerf and, of course, Moss). Richard however I don't think can be considered gender neutral unless you mean the (slightly) feminine voice Carroll gave him in "Surprise!"

    On another "Frazzle" note, I looked carefully at Maurice, and it looks like he was still made from a Green Anything Muppet before being fully built by (I'm guessing) the late 70's. I noticed what looks like the shape of the green mouth sticking out.
     
  20. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I'm gonna try and go for a more accurate thing and say, these guys weren't intended to be anything more than a one-time group that was visually interesting and then they're like "Hey, this song is good! Let's put it on an album and make up a name for these guys."
     

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