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Meet the Feebles on DVD?

Discussion in 'Puppet News' started by Zack the Dog, Jan 7, 2003.

  1. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Well-Known Member

    I know this isn't Muppets or anything but maybe someone can shead some light.

    So i was at the dentist today and in the waitting room i was reading a magazine...i know, it's a pretty wierd thing to do in a watting room, but i read a little thing about a review for Meet the Feebles on DVD, it really wasn't a review it just stated what the movie was about and then three stars after it.

    I have never seen the flim and no blockbuster in my area carry's it, it's not really my kinda flim but i would still like to see it. I rememer first hearing about this movie from Luke when i first came to the old MC back in 2000.

    anyone know?

  2. pezbalubah

    pezbalubah Well-Known Member

    My friend is supposed to rent it from like an indie video store, but he said the dvd only plays in certain players.. like a certain format that not all players can play.
  3. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    To say the film is edgy would be an understatement. I enjoyed the film, but it is really extreme. It shows puppets shooting up drugs, gunning down each other, phornicating and other nastiness that I can't really explain here. It's like a rated NC-!7 Muppet Show on acid. I'm sure no one at Henson likes it. I enjoy Peter Jackson's work, but even some of my more alternative friends had a hard time with the film.
  4. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Oh to say the film is edgy would be grossly inaccurate. The only thing shocking or edgy about it is how utterly unwatchable it is. Shock does not equal edge in my book. Innovations and new ideas equals edge to me.(Like Sex and Violence or JHH) And Meet The Feebles to me is a horrific unwatchable exercise in low rent crass celluloid sludge.

    Interesting to see Peter Jackson go from $3000 puppet porn flicks in the late 80's to $300 million fantasy flicks in the 2000's;)
  5. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I found it interesting, but it is a lot to take in. You can't really peg Peter Jackson and I admire him for that. There are parts of that film that crack me up. But after seeing many films, I believe this to be the most offensive film ever made. It beats out Birth of a Nation IMHO. :eek:
  6. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    I think to say that nobody at Henson doesn't like it is a bit misguided - sure it doesn't do Henson (as a corporate company) any favors because people always mention it in assocation with the Muppets, but creative people and puppeteers there would probably be interested in it - you remember how much Jim was into the darker and alternative style of puppetry.

    It didn't offend me, though i found it boring because i thought the storyline was slow. I don't know how anyone (well ... aside from Cory) can say it isn't edgy because to do something like that at the time was nothing but edgy.
  7. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    I remember hearing about this one, as a fan of obscure indie films and puppetry. Luckily the local video store had a copy. But I tell you, man...I know it was done in the late 80's with no budget out in New Zealand...but dang it just looks cringingly bad.

    Also, the 'puppets' look more like decomposed mascot costumes and Chuck E Cheese animatronics than anything approaching even Sam and Friends. Look, I'll admit...I have a huge beef against foul mouthed crass and cheap puppet shows...like Greg the Bunny or Crank Yankers. But still...ack.

    Though it is a bit odd me not liking it at the time, as I recall on MC circa 1998 talking about how JHC should go into the super edgy mode with a new show, heh.

    But man...that final musical number I cant even repeat here.
    Well, youve been warned!
  8. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    I agree that this was in no way Henson quality - be personally i don't think it was that bad. I think if Jim were alive you might have seen Henson do some more of the darker stuff - people kinda think of Jim as squeaky clean but from what i read, he was more passionate about the darker alternative stuff.
  9. GWGumby

    GWGumby Well-Known Member

    I just finished watching this show a couple weeks ago. Definitely the type of movie to leave a bad taste in one's mouth. Unlike deliberately offensive movies like South Park or Monty Python's Meaning of Life, this isn't shock with a point, it's shock for shock. It's offense purely for offense. And ultimately, it really doesn't work. There are a few laughs, the absolutely horrible climactic show number was one of the few "so shocking it's almost funny" parts, but in the end there's very little to redeem watching it.

    However, this is a type of film that based on the novelty premise and Peter Jackson's name, it's probably difficult to dissuade anyone from seeing it. No one's warning kept me away from it. So all we can do is warn people: don't expect much--and definitely don't go out of your way to track down a copy. It won't be worth it.

    Go rent Frighteners or Bad Taste instead.
  10. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Well-Known Member

    I don't know, i'd just really like to see it, I'm interested in it, i mean we all know it has nothing to do with the henson or the muppets at all. When i first heard of it i was offend by the thought of it but that was more then three years ago and ive grown and changed my mind since then. Its just a movie, it won't effect my life. I'd just watch or do something possitve after if it offened me that much. things don't really offend me that much anymore.

    Hmm, so about this dvd only playing in certain players? Why? I saw the dvd on Amizon. I don't know if i would buy it yet, i think i'll check a few more video stores and rent it first, I wonder if the DVD would work on a playstation 2 or a computer DVD player?

    This would be something funny to play at the next Muppet party I host with my friends from work.

    About Jim and a darker side, you will never see Kermit or the muppets do something like this being this edgy. it would ruin them,your not going to see mickey mouse, yogi bear or bugs bunny do something like this either.

    i think the darker side of Jim that Luke is talking about is like the story teller or the dark crystal, more spooky creatures and devils N'stuff, we would have seen more stuff like this, not fozzie bear with a gun or anything.

  11. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Hey, it even offended me and I enjoyed it. LOL! I don't think it's something you will enjoy so it wouldn't be best to buy it. If you really are curious, rent it. Be warned - that film can get nasty. And Jim's darker sided didn't include any of what this film does IMHO.
  12. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Well-Known Member

    yes this is IMHO too, as thats what i said before,

    I know the flim will be nasty, but they are puppets, it would be stupit/funny in my option. well i mean as your saying it is really gross, so i do understand your point

    No, i'm not buying anything untill i see it first, think it would be worth buying, and know that the DVD would work with what dvd players i have ( Computer DVD, and playstation 2)

    I just gotta find a video store that has it, i called the ones around my house and they have no idea what i am talking about, i think i'll do some in store checking though because we all know what these people on the phones don't know.
  13. Movies205

    Movies205 Well-Known Member

    Hey, I LOVED GREG THE BUNNY! LOL "The greens ones make me *****" Tardy the retarded turtle lol, As for meet the feebles haven't seen it yet but I will soon.
  14. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Tardy was the only character I liked. Very much like me sometimes.
  15. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Zack & Jamie

    Yeah, i didn't mean the Muppets getting involved in this kind of thing - Jim had started to move into different kinds of puppetry, as you say like Storyteller and Labyrinth before. However, i'm pretty sure with interests like the occult and paranormal you might have seen him go further (ok, not to the extent of 'Meet The Feebles) and he might well have done things like puppet horror movies or a loud 'Greg The Bunny' style sitcom. There were so many projects that didn't make it and so much about Jim that people didn't 'get' or know - it would have all been explained in that biography that the family was able to bury (because they'd commisioned it in the first place i think) and then cultivate the myth that we know today. I do agree though that if Jim would ever have done a really dark film, there would have been a reason to it and good script/puppetry unlike this which where the brief was more to do an edgy film that would totally shock people at a time when people didn't expect that from puppets.
  16. GWGumby

    GWGumby Well-Known Member

    Zack the Dog -

    I just sent you an e-mail through the forum about possibly getting a copy of the Feebles. Let me know if you get it.
  17. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Re: Zack & Jamie

    Grrreat...first hes a womanizer druggy Christian science fanatic, now hes a goat sacrificer? Im getting really tired of these
    slanders against the good name of JH. Not accusing you of perpetuating that, but still. When people say stuff about the Dalai Lama, Martin Luther King, JH, etc I dont like it.
  18. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    That reminds me of a joke I heard. A priest. Dalai Lama and Martin Luther King were in a boat...

    Just had to say it. :D
  19. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Zack & Jamie

    All of a sudden being into the occult makes you a goat sacrificer ? You must explain that to me sometime. :rolleyes:

    I don't think if the truth was told about him it'd be all that bad - it's not like he did anything really scandalous. I think you just have to put things in context - quite obviously he was not the squeaky clean person we are led to believe he was but you have to put it into context. He was a sixties and seventies person - things like alternative religion and looking at whats beyond 'this world' were the norm, and i've never heard anything about drugs but it would suprise me eitherway. It was the 60's and he socialised in media circles - this was normal ! (heck - it's not THAT different now) Maybe he gambled occasionally, liked living the high life, and liked to entertain pretty young women - who doesn't ? :eek:

    All that the 'myth' does is provide a lunch ticket for his family that they've held onto over the years, and lets them help parents feel all warm and squishy about their kids watching the shows and buy the merchandise - it doesn't do Jim much good because the person who he was has been deliberately distorted and kiddified. I would have liked to have seen a book come out so people could read first hand accounts of what life with him was really like. Hardcore Henson fans should at some time in their lives try to talk to people (away from the Henson Company) who knew Jim personally or at least read the books from people like Brillstein, you get a whole different story (though still a nice one) and the whole image of Jim Henson and what made him tick becomes a lot clearer.
  20. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Zack & Jamie

    Well...I remember at Muppetfest a few of us had a debate about a tell all book about JH...but what would it tell? What would it divulge? I think there is a reason there is no real tell all biography, and maybe it should stay that way. Who knows what kind of ill begotten ideas people have in their head.

    I don't understand this notion that things have been kiddified or distorted. Obviously we'd have endless threads from everyone posting feverishly if that was the case.

    So what's the real story then eh? Wild druid orgies at casinos?
    I do not understand this idea at all that something great has to be 'unveiled' or torn down or 'revealed'.

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