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Mini Muppets in Scale with Regular Figures

Discussion in 'Action Figures' started by Phillip, Jul 2, 2003.

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Will you get Palisades first two PVC sets?

Poll closed Oct 5, 2003.
I plan on buying them 9 vote(s) 56.3%
I won't purchase them 2 vote(s) 12.5%
I am undecided until I see them 5 vote(s) 31.3%

  1. Phillip Administrator

    Ken posted these pics at Palisades forum of the Mini Muppets in scale with the regular figures.

    Are they bigger than you expected? Have you changed your mind and plan to get them, or have you been looking forward to these from the beginning? Let us know what you think.

    http://www.palisadestoys.com/Forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=99898

    http://www.palisadestoys.com/Forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=99899

    The two PVC sets are available for pre-order. Set 1 features Piggy with Towel, Gonzo with balloons and Two Snowths. Set 2 features Mahna Mahna, Thog and Sam the Eagle.
  2. Gonzo the Grape New Member

    mini

    Humm... When I looked at the first picture, the size was what I had assumed they'ed be, they're about average pvc size, but then I saw the second one with the Sams and was impressed by the size! It makes sense that the figures would be in scale with themselves but sometimes things don't work out that way. I still won't buy them, don't get me wrong I think they look great but I don't want to collect two different Muppet sizes. I'd rather save the money and spend it on the action figures, the action figures, IMO, display better. Easy to see not too big that just take up room. I understand the reasoning behind making the pvcs but for me it's all about the action figures.
  3. Hat Sharpener New Member

    While the minis are neat, I'll still be passing.

    I'm a little underwhelmed. I have memories of Ken raving that these would be the best likenesses of the Muppets we'd ever seen, but they don't live up to the Action figures in my mind.

    :mad: Piggy's nose is too big.
    :attitude: Sam's chest looks like a golf-ball
    :concern: Gonzo's head sculpt just misses the mark compared to both the action figures.

    On the other hand, Thog is great, and it's nice to see Snowths & Mahna Mahna. Sam's head looks great, and it's nice to see him without his MTI outfit.

    I guess I'm also turned off by the fact that you have to buy them all at once, and that you have to by both sets to get Mahna Mahna & the Snowths... Otherwise I'd buy just that one and let the other one slide by. Instead, I'll be passing on both.

    I've got too many Muppets populating my desk anyways! :)

    - Derek
  4. Thijs Member

    I will buy them if they will be available in the Netehrlands. I'm not interested in the Piggy, Sam and Gonzo, I will buy because of Thog, Mahna and the Snowths, because there is a small chance that they will be available as action figure in the future. I don't like the size either. They could have made them larger I think. I don't like Piggy. Her eyes are far to big, she looks a little like a baby now. The rest of the figs are good. Thog is the best of them all.
  5. fozziebear900 New Member

    Mini Muppets

    Miss piggy looks like a little pig. I didn't think that thog would be that big as he is bigger that the bigger kermit. Sam also looks quite big too. i will buy both sets even though i think miss piggy could have been modeled better.
    :mad: :attitude: :concern:
  6. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    I'm gettin' 'em!! I want Mahna-Mahna and the Snowths!! I think it'll be a cool way to get the obscurest of characters!!
  7. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I think they're all modeled beautifully. The size is close to the Jack in the box figures. It has also been discussed countless times that the scale had to be cheated on these for packaging and cost concerns. It's also quite logical too. In my mind, they aren't quite minis, hey are large PVCs. Something's bugging me about Gonzo's pupil size, but it will likely be corrected in the final prodcuct. This is excellent work and I hope they continue. It appears that have become spoiled by the recent flood of products and have begun taking this new Muppet product for granted.

    I think these are a wise marketing decision in every sense. A couple waves of these a year will blend well. I understand the PVC crowd is an often different one than the action figure crowd. To get in figures like the snowths, they had to be packaged together in a strategic way. I have the feeling some stores might seperate the packs and mark them up. In that case, I'd see a lot of Thogs sticking around. This is a way to give the fans what they want. Great work! They've hooked me in.
  8. Luke Active Member

    I think they look pretty good - Sam's body is awful but i don't have a problem with Piggy at all. I'm not really massively convinced about the PVC's - they are a nice extra product to have but i don't see people going crazy over them. It's nice to have some obscure characters but then i don't think putting a few obscures in the mix is going to secure them that many sales because although it will please them, the hardcore fan base is so small. I've always thought thats a big mistake - personally i would have gone the cheap birthday present route and put out single PVC's of the main characters dressed in different themes at card shops and things. They would probably make a lot more money - unless something is really special it's rare for the mainstream market to go for a Muppet product over $10 because it becomes priced out of being an 'impulse buy' and packaging them together puts them in direct competition with their own figures which are cheaper and better. If they can get enough sales from just collectors to make doing sets like these worth it then great, i'm sure they know what they're doing. I think the christmas set will probably do ok and be in the right place at the right time for people who'll spend more for presents at Christmas, and lets not forget the Penguins !
  9. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I wouldn't use the word awful to describe any of it. :attitude: But I see the rest of your point. I'd keep the obscure Muppets down to one per pack (2 per wave). Singular figures would be great and probably sell better two, but these aren't cheapy PVCs. They're monster huge, textured and shaded sculptures. I'd prefer that and let Palisades worry about their own bottom line. :concern: :zany:
  10. Phillip Administrator

    I really like the direction of themed sets like Muppet Christmas Carol, instead of the first two random sets. In 2004, a set of Electric Mayhem PVC's with Lips in their purple suits would be nice. Maybe a fairytale set for the Wizard of Oz or a set for Alice in Wonderland. A Superhero PVC set might be good as well using WonderPig, SuperFrog, and things like that. A Muppet Monster PVC set towards the end of the line might be a good way to get some neat sculpts into the line.
  11. scarecroe Active Member

    All those sets are excellent ideas!

    SuperKermit could be in a similar "flying" pose as was the SuperGrover PVC...

    http://www.whatacharacter.com/g-o/g0500015.jpg
    http://scarecroe.com/files/superkermit.jpg

    WonderPig could be in the classic Lynda Carter pose, or maybe in a "deflecting bullet" pose...

    http://www.thecharlieman.com/Wonder Woman - Color - 001.jpg
    http://scarecroe.com/files/wonderpig-sm.jpg

    Of course the Lew, Scooter, Fozzie, Statler and Gonzo SuperHeroes from the Lynda Carter ep would be natural selections for inclusion as well.

    And I think it goes without saying that a Wizard of Oz set would be an absolute dream. Connections found all over the place including Muppet Babies (fairy tale poser book and series), Go to the Movies special, The Muppet Show, Kermit's Swamp Years and the fact that it was Jim's favorite movie. Additionally, The Muppet Movie was basically a remake of sorts.
  12. Luke Active Member

    It's just that honeycomb thing - sorry, it gets to me ! The rest of the PVC is perfect but it's just that effect - it makes me tingle inside like the super shiny Gonzo did. LOL !

    If they can find a market for these that'll support sets i really like Phillip's ideas. The MCC set always attracted me a lot more and i'd certainly like to see the Mayhem Band and Superheroes. Doing those rather than doing random sets with a few obscures here and there seems like a much stronger idea to me and would make these sets more attractive to the casual buyer as well as Muppet fans.
  13. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Has anybody noticed that Gonzo's nose is now bluer or could that just be a camera effect? Compare it to the pics in the Muppets interface over at Palisades. :concern: Say it isn't so. :( Still looks good, but not in all his purple glory.
  14. Hat Sharpener New Member

    I agree 100% - I will seriosuly consider the Xmas Carol set, and would absolutely buy a Mayhem set, but I'll be passing on the 1st set of random characters...

    I think the PVC's are a great way to produce themed versions of characters. A Great Muppet Caper set would be excellent!

    - Derek
  15. sarah_yzma Active Member

    hasn't Gonzo's nose gotten bluer over the years?
  16. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Actually Gonzo's nose has become even more purple over the years. It was blue the first season of the Muppet Show.

    Funny thing about the minis is that a couple of them are individually themed. Miss Piggy is in a towel, not a standard version, and Gonzo has his TMM balloons. Last year some people were upset that Piggy wasn't in a dress. I'd like to see more themes too.
  17. Thijs Member

    Hmm, I like the thing they are doing now. Some main characters (theme or not theme, don't care) and some obscure, like Thog and Mahna. The mains to make costumers buy the figures, the obscures for the fans. I love the obscures.
  18. radionate New Member

    Personally I cannot wait to find these and play with them.

    I just don't know where I'll find them. Target nor Suncoast won't be carrying these, correct? We need a retailer listing for these guys.

    I love PVCs and cannot wait to hold them in my little hand. Plus there are great little display pieces for bookshelves, DVD cases, etc. The perfect thing to break up a uniform display.
  19. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    I'm getting them! I think they'll look great in their own display.
  20. beaker Well-Known Member

    Aw yes, the JB Muppet Show figure line...one of my favorite Muppet figure lines of some time...though Palisade's line isnt too shabby;) I wish these were individual, as I just want Thog and Mahna Mahna/Snowths...but heck yeah for Palisades making the obscure characters. Here's something...

    Im betting we might see Uncle Deadly or some other obscure fan fave in this style before too long.

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