1. Welcome to the Muppet Central Forum!
    You are viewing our forum as a guest. Join our free community to post topics and start private conversations. Please contact us if you need help with registration or your account login.

  2. Sesame Street Season 45
    Sesame Street's 45th season officially begins Monday September 15. After you see the new episodes, post here and let us know your thoughts.

  3. "Muppets Most Wanted" Fan Reactions
    After you see "Muppets Most Wanted", read fan reactions and let us know your thoughts on the Muppets eighth theatrical film.

Mongrels on BBC 3

Discussion in 'Puppet News' started by SesameKermie, Jun 15, 2010.

  1. SesameKermie

    SesameKermie Member

    I came across some clips of BBC3's "Mongrels" and it looks like an interesting show. Since I'm in the States, can any of you from across the pond or elsewhere give me any more info?

    It's an "adult topics" puppet show (not for the little ones, but the jokes might go over their heads) from what I can tell. It seems to be set in a junkyard/vacant lot in an urban setting. I know Puppeteers Unite has a blinking eye test on one of the puppets as well. Has anyone see this?
  2. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Active Member

  3. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Really? I didn't know you worked on it! Wow! I hope this makes it to US cable. Great stuff! We just got crummy things like the monsterously unfunny Crank Yankers. Mongrels looks like a top shelf production in every way. The pigeon puppet is especially Muppety. :super:
  4. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Active Member

    I love the second one...that is just too funny!
  5. Blink

    Blink Member

    Looks great. I love it.
  6. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Active Member

  7. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Think I saw you under a cat. :o Great clips! I hope this show finds a home on cable here too. So are the voices of the puppets swapped out for comedians or how does that all work? Marian the cat and the pigeon are my favorite designs so far.:super:
  8. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Active Member

    Yes, big UK comedians have dubbed the voices. You did indeed see me on the end of that Cat! hehe!
  9. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    This was absolutely excellent tonight, really funny ... and i know Twitter was buzzing about it. I love the metrosexual fox character and Strictly Dog Dancing lol.

    I don't think international folk can see it via BBC Iplayer .. i'll try get it up somewhere :halo:
  10. MuppetDanny

    MuppetDanny Well-Known Member

    I 2nd that :) Congrats BlueFrackle!
  11. Reevz1977

    Reevz1977 Well-Known Member

    Hey big congrats BlueFrackle,

    I pointed this out to the missus the other day and said I wanted to catch it - Looks ace! ! ! !
  12. Boober_Gorg

    Boober_Gorg Active Member

    I already posted this on TP ...

    Here's my impression of the show so far after seeing the first episode ... don't read this if you don't want spoilers.

    Marion the cat - his suave accent and demeanor echo that of Pepe LePew.
    Nelson the fox - A sly con-fox with a soft side. If he's the ringleader, maybe there's hope.
    Destiny the Afghan hound - I can relate to the pressure of obedience school, but try placing her in a non-scatological situation and see if she's any better. I'd like it if she (or any of the other animals) were able to act out revenge in a way that doesn't involve mauling, urine or feces, because that's what everyone expects of them.
    Kali the (Jamaican) pigeon - seems kinda mean-spirited and one-dimensional. But that's just based on one episode.
    The Rats - I hope they get their own episode. That would be nice.

    The premise - a gang of rebellious animals trying to make it in the world - couldn't be a better idea for a puppet show. The first episode follows the standard sitcom structure, which I hope will include more deviations in the next few installments. I thought the odd chicken was going to be upset after overhearing the "F**k Chickens" song, but instead it seemed like the plot took a different direction - then it became somewhat predictable again.

    The production values - Henson-quality top-notch, especially the "F**k Chickens" song. This might be a selling point if they try marketing it to BBC America or Adult Swim.

    I also noticed quite a bit of cutaways and celebrity jabs - is the show trying to be like Family Guy? (Which is also shown on BBC3) On that show, it's confirmed that Brian and the humans can communicate, but it's always been ambiguous with Stewie. Since the adults don't respond to the animals' wisecracks, some might say that's a valid distinction. but upon seeing Nelson fight with the chicken, I can't help but be reminded of Family Guy yet again (yeah, it's a one-time thing here, but still!). Joggy said to me three years ago, "Europe is Americanising in rapid speed." I'm beginning to see what he meant.

    Swearing - UK TV typically is less censored than US TV, but this episode still has a bunch of bleeps. Will the DVD be the same or will it be unbleeped? Given the tone of the rest of the episode, somehow I get the sense that they're added for humor in that one scene where Nelson's racking up points.

    Maybe this series needs to grow on me (or maybe I need to de-stress from my my hectic schedule). I've been catching a lot of new animated/puppet shows in their infancy (Neighbors From H*ll, Warren the Ape, Late Night Liars), and I have mixed feelings about them. (I feel the most hopeful for Warren the Ape, being that I know the characters from beforehand.)

    My overall feelings of all four are:
    Neighbors - **/5 (the humor is ten years too old!)
    Warren - ****/5 (gotta love Dan Milano)
    Liars - ***/5 (there's at least SOME laughs in there)
    Mongrels - ***/5 (see above)

    If any of these shows last beyond 8 episodes, I'll be impressed. Keep up the good work, BlueFrackle. You could surely end up doing something for Henson someday.
  13. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Great review. I think its maybe taking this a little too seriously tho - yes a lot of the stuff you talked about is deliberate (like the bleeps ... the fox even uses a horn to "bleep" at one point, thats all part of the joke). The humour and celebrity stuff is typical of other Brit shows like Facekacker or Bo Selecta - thats just our type of comedy nowdays. Actually watching it, and seeing how so much of the humour is extrememly Brit focused i wondered whether Americans would be able to "get" it. I think maybe they arent worried about that tho as BBC3 commisions a lot of similar shows just for themselves, though i'd hope there will be a DVD.

    As for Henson .. this show and the other BBC puppet BlueFrackle puppeteers is way more high profile than anything they are doing. I love Henson and the Henson people but i can't help but feel that since selling the Muppets they have tried so many different shows and pilots to try get a hit, the lack of focus shows a bit in the output. It's great though to see "Mongrels" as well as other American adult puppet shows getting some attention latley - Twitter has been buzzing about it all.
  14. Gaskett

    Gaskett New Member

    Hope all who has seen Mongrels is enjoying it. It's generally aimed at a 16 to 32 year old audience and although some of the jokes may be a little risque, there is a heart running through the show, which we try to bring out in all the characters.

    I'm one of the puppeteers and puppet builders on the show, so please keep with us and pass on the good word. That word, is Mongrels.
  15. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Well-Known Member

    Does anyone have a list of the puppeteers who work on this? Aside from Andy Heath and those of you who have posted, I'm curious to know who else does the show.

    Thanks!
  16. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I had a feeling that you might have been involved, W, as soon as I saw it advertised.

    Although I have yet to watch an episode due to a lack of internet/tv access at this time. I heard Scott Mills raving about the show the other day on Radio 1 too, so that's cool.
  17. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Active Member

    Along with me and Andy, it was Richard Coombs, Iestyn Evans, Susan Beattie and Mak Wilson, Simon Buckley, Mandy Glass and Matt Hutchinson.
  18. Gaskett

    Gaskett New Member

    The other Key performers are ... Richard Coombs, Iestyn Evans, and Sue Beattie. However, a lot of other uk performers have lent a hand on a lot of episodes.

    :)
  19. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Oh Mak Wilson, remember him from Hoobs, Moppatop and Faffner.

    I'm still really loving it, best new show on TV this year for sure.
  20. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Active Member

    He also did Earl Sinclair on Dinosaurs, and was part (not sure which) of Hoggle!


Share This Page

Muppet Whatnots now available plus Free Shipping!