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Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by The Count, Feb 2, 2005.

  1. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK, you deserve that good rest pal.
    Gonna keep the Customer, since she does come in or out of the shop just before the Stranger. Where is Lester Z'Dwango from in MT? The only "Lester" I have from there is Lester Tomwater. Thought the Nylons were Muppets, but if they're human guest stars, they'll be dropped.
    Gotta see about adding all of this, especially since now I got probs with the master diskette. Will save it all to computer and probably buy some disks later.
  2. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    I got the name from the "Muppets From Space" DVD commentary.
  3. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK, will ask later. Gonna take a small break and then I gotta keep fixing things for the list.
  4. TotallySpiesFan

    TotallySpiesFan New Member

    Two improvements:

    JO BETH GARF TOOHOO should be changed to JO BETH GARDEHOO (according to Tough Pigs)

    UBU should be changed to UBO
  5. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Hey guys, finished adding all the latest additions.
    Updates/Questions.
    E01. From the War and Peace segment, there were a group of Whatnots dressed as French, Russian, and German soldiers. Should these be added as "The War and Peace Soldiers"?
    E02. The Sheep, should this entry be added to the list or not?
    E03. The Story of the Hat-Sharpening King: The Storyteller: Eliminated since I'm not listing the voiceover narrators of the other stories from JHH.
    E04. The Dog Director: Though he wasn't seen onscreen, not sure about leaving him off the list.
    Do you guys think it'd create a rift given the inclusion of other offscreen characters on the list?
    The Dog Stunt Crew: These were two dogs in casual clothing.
    One of them was Mad Dog and is already on the list.
    The other one was a yellowish dog with saggy jowls, a black nose, and dark eyes.
    Was this the same "Yellow Dog" that appeared on JHAS?
    Should he be added as either "The Yellow Dog" or "The Dog Stunts Crewdog"?
    E05. The War Bugs were attacked by a butterfly with a machine gun.
    Should this butterfly be listed separately or as part of the War Bugs?
    During the Response-a-Matic segment towards the end of the episode, there's a Star Trek parody. Here are the descripts I've gotten of both characters I need help with.
    A humanoid Whatnot with reddish-brown hair who wore a sort of marroon Star Trek outfit.
    The other is an off-white big-nosed Whatnot with sleepy eyes and brown hair.
    Under what names should these characters be added to the list?
    Chip from Gorilla TV was aka Lester Z'Dwango on (MT).
    Should there be a second entry for Lester Z'Dwango added to the list?
    Need help with these and everything else from the JHH episodes that's still on the agenda from Health & Fitness to Food. You can find the questions posted in this thread.
    Hope to hear from you guys soon, and have a good night.
  6. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    Why should it be changed to Ubo? It sounds more like Ubu.
  7. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Agreed. Still need someone from my family to help out with those two names from the tapes, but it does sound more like "Ubu".
    Anyway, hope to hear from you guys on finishing up with JHH before moving on to whatever questions I may have from some SS sketches/songs.
  8. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    I'll have plenty of time today to help you with your questions. I only have one more class today.

    For now, here's a cast list (all are from the end credits):

    The Heartless Giant
    Giant--Frederick Warder
    Leo--Elliot Spiers
    Queen--Gemma Jones
    Prince 1--Richard Lintern
    Prince 2--Simon Adams
    Giant--John Atkinson

    Lighthouse Island
    Zeb Norman--Chris Makenpeace
    Clara--Helen Burns
    Rosalie--Carolyn Dunn
    Fred--Jerry Nelson
    Fortune Teller
    Sam--John Dunsworth
    Jake--Marty Reno
    Carl--Bruce Armstrong

    Soldier and Death
    Unknown; I have half of the credits for the Monsterthon episode.

    Monster Maker
    Matt Banting--Kieran O'Brian
    Father--George Costigan
    Mother--Amanda Dickinson
    Periwinkle--Alison Steadman
    Ben--Grant Bardsley
    Reg--Bill Moody
    Vaughn--Matthew Scurfield
    Teacher--Jonathan Coy
    Chancey Bellow--Harry Dean Stanton

    Health and Fitness
    Farmer's Wife (correction)--Linda Cash
    The crocodile elder's name is Caiman, not Calman.
  9. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks Muppet Dude.
    1 First order of business.
    Why do you have two actors for the Giant in the cast above?
    From the list Muppet_dk posted, is Margaret Moore the Fortuneteller in Lighthouse Island?
    Are Reg and Vaughn the two thieves who break into the warehouse in Monster Maker?
    Wasn't there a female secretary in Monster Maker? A female assistant of Chancy's?
    If so, please provide info on her.
    2 Second order of business.
    Please check out the questions I posted above with the E01 to E05 headings.
    Please post as soon as you can.
    3 Last item on the docket.
    After the other two are done, would hope to get some help with the questions and requests from episodes Health & Fitness to Food. If you need, I could post t hem again here to refresh you on what I'm looking for.
    Thanks again and hope you do well on your classes.
  10. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Oh yeah, before I forget...
    Congratulations on becoming a Senior Member MuppetDude! Just too bad the hottubs have been deleted, could've made you a Senior Members bathrobe.
    Oh well, rully glad you made it to the higher ranks here at MC.
  11. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    Oops. The second "Giant" was actually supposed to be "Guard".

    And I will answer your second big set of questions after my second class (as well as a few corrections).

    I think I'll start doing wrist calisthenics now...
  12. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    Health & Fitness
    The Story of the Talking Cabbage: The Talking Cabbage
    Is "Old Cabbage Head" rully his name or is that just an affecionate nickname?
    Given that the story's title is The Story of the Talking Cabbage, shouldn't the cabbage be refered to as "The Talking Cabbage"?


    It could be both, but the cabbage himself referred to himself as "Ol' Cabbagehead".

    Musicians
    Flash's Groupies, still need a descript to add them to the list
    They're a group of female Whatnots with hair similar to Flash's (very frizzy, with a mullet).They're also wearing clothes similar to Flash's: a white shirt with a black vest.

    Sergeant Killer Death Machine, still need the name of the human actor who played him.

    The Ghost Story's Hotel Owner, still need the name of the human actor who portrayed her.

    This week I've been taping JHH in a trade with Mikealan and have been able to get the list of credits while taping them. However, I haven't taped episodes 8-12 yet, so I couldn't get the credits for those.

    Garbage
    The Little Girl appears towards the beginning when the Garbage Bags are at Muppet Central. Waldo says: "Demographics alert! Ratings crisis! Bad reaction from the pre-teen females." Kermit says: "What, little girls don't like garbage?" The Little Girl then shows up on a monitor and says: "Like garbage? Eew, yuck. Stinko garbage."
    That's actually a transformed Waldo. He's known for changing identities while staying with his notable characteristics (his nose, eyes, head shape, etc.).

    The Fly, appears with the Garbage Bags at the beginning of the episode.
    Probably not. I don't think they appear on the screen (just the noise).

    After the Story of the Colorless Birds, Kermit jumps back into Muppet Central and the Garbage Bags. There's one giving a speech, sounding like Winston Churchill.
    Should this one be added as a new entry, separate from the rest of the Garbage Bags?

    I think he should be counted with the rest of the Garbage Bags.

    The Female Human Mother, still need the name of the person who portrayed her.
    I think she was a blond woman.

    The Young Human Girl, still need the name of the person who portrayed her.
    I think she was a blond girl.

    The Harris Thompson and Sludge Waste Management Expert.
    I had no idea how to describe this character. (Thanks!) He's a pink Whatnot with squarish nose, a patch over one eye, and wears a blue suit and sailor's hat. He had a corncob pipe in his mouth, and a gray scraggly beard.

    Food
    The Average Consumer appears after the opening number, the Food Chain Song.
    Waldo says: Kermit, bad news from the world of ratings. Ever since the song stopped, we've been losing our ratings share!" Kermit says: "Well, you're the demographic expert. Uh, what do you suggest?" This woman then appears on screen and says: "Well, isn't there a show that would have more of an appeal to the average consumer?"

    Yet again a transformed Waldo.

    There's this character that shows up during the bit when Sheldon lands at the farm. He says: "Mmm, I didn't know grocery boys could fly."
    That's a Muppet cow with lidless eyes and big horns. Probably shouldn't be listed.

    The Cafe Teria's Rat Maitre D', need a descript and whether it should be added.
    Now that he's got a name, he could be listed. It looks like Rizzo in a tuxedo.

    Jacques Roach's Kitchen Assistants, need descripts and whether they should be added.
    A group of rats dressed in hats and aprons.

    The Vegetables, need a descript and whether they should be added.
    *They sing the first four songs during the Let's Eat album infomercial, including Gouda Loving and Would You Like a Sprout Alfie?

    I'm not sure.

    The Singing Flowers, did these appear during the Food Chain Song?
    They're the same flowers from the John Denver TMS episode (but it looks like a few more were built).

    There were some characters who showed up during both the Food Chain Song and the closing number I need help identifying.
    These include an Iguana, a TMS snake (with brown pupils, and whose red mouth was removed so he can swallow the lizard), a hawk (who was seen in dark lighting), Rezal Evad Gib, Luncheon Counter Monster, and Dog Lion.

    The Song of the Cloud Forest
    Were these Uprights present during the musical number "They're Out There Munchin' Forests"?
    Should they be listed as "The Imaginary Uprights"? Or as "The Uprights"?

    I'd call them "The Imaginary Uprights" and yes, they appeared during that song.

    Nick, other than Nick the Anaconda was there any other character from JHH with this name?
    I can't recall any.

    The Garbage Bags
    A group of garbage bags with eyes (either black, or holes), squarish noses, and black mouths with tongues. Some of them were tan lunch bags with scrunched-up faces.

    The Screaming No-Nos
    Tiny humans wearing brown suits.

    Also need descripts of Beard, Flash, and the Female Drummer from Solid Foam.
    Please post here if you guys can help finish off everything to complete the JHH additions to the master list.


    Beard--similar to Zeke from the TMS Jug Band, Beard's head is almost entirely covered of yellow-orange feathers. He has a bushy moustache, hair (partly in a pigtail at the top), and long beard. He had a short, round orange nose, orange skin, green-tinted sunglasses, and dark green shirt.

    Flash--a light-peached humanoid character with a slim Guy Smiley-esque head. He has black slants for eyes (as if they're closed), bushy brown eyebrows that move, a nose like Clifford's, bushy tan hair with a mullet, and an upper row of teeth. He wears a white shirt with black vest.

    Female Drummer--the Zondra puppet with frizzy red hair and sunglasses.

    E01. From the War and Peace segment, there were a group of Whatnots dressed as French, Russian, and German soldiers. Should these be added as "The War and Peace Soldiers"?
    Sounds good to me.

    E02. The Sheep, should this entry be added to the list or not?
    Probably not; it's one of the sheep from TMS.

    The Dog Stunt Crew: These were two dogs in casual clothing.
    One of them was Mad Dog and is already on the list.
    The other one was a yellowish dog with saggy jowls, a black nose, and dark eyes.
    Was this the same "Yellow Dog" that appeared on JHAS?

    The dog from JHAS was covered in lots of yarn, and the one from JHH isn't.

    Should he be added as either "The Yellow Dog" or "The Dog Stunts Crewdog"?
    The second one.

    E05. The War Bugs were attacked by a butterfly with a machine gun.
    Should this butterfly be listed separately or as part of the War Bugs?

    Nah; there are too many butterflies in the Muppet productions (they're like letters and numbers from SS).

    During the Response-a-Matic segment towards the end of the episode, there's a Star Trek parody. Here are the descripts I've gotten of both characters I need help with.
    A humanoid Whatnot with reddish-brown hair who wore a sort of marroon Star Trek outfit.
    The other is an off-white big-nosed Whatnot with sleepy eyes and brown hair.
    Under what names should these characters be added to the list?

    Maybe the characters from the "Respose-O-Matic" could be listed as:

    Response-O-Matic: Link's Soap Opera Wife (JHH)
    Response-O-Matic: The Sci-Fi Commanders (JHH)

    Chip from Gorilla TV was aka Lester Z'Dwango on (MT).
    Should there be a second entry for Lester Z'Dwango added to the list?

    You probably need a second opinion on that; I don't have any of the MT episodes. :(

    1 First order of business.
    From the list Muppet_dk posted, is Margaret Moore the Fortuneteller in Lighthouse Island?
    Are Reg and Vaughn the two thieves who break into the warehouse in Monster Maker?
    Wasn't there a female secretary in Monster Maker? A female assistant of Chancy's?
    If so, please provide info on her.


    1) Yes, that is the actress who plays the Fortune Teller.
    2) I'm not sure.
    3) I believe that's his wife, Periwinkle. I think she was a middle-aged redhead.

    Corrections:
    The Soap Opera Husband has small black eyes under his eyebrows, and a line underneath them for a baggy-eye look.

    Mack the Dog Waiter had only one visible black spot, around his eye.

    Colleen Barker usually wore a straw hat with a pink flower in it, and a white dress with polka dots.

    Blue Guy--has a big chin, wide eyes, and a triangular body. He had a green head and blue body.

    Green Girl--has no eyes, pigtails, teeth on both jaws, and a red/yellow zigzag body.

    Fern Rudd also had a tuft of green feathers at the top of her head.

    Sorry if I haven't been able to get much descriptions on the human characters from Muppet and Storyteller segments. I'm not very good at describing them well. If you can give me another list, I can try.
  13. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK, here's what I need help with to finally finish off JHH.
    A. Descripts of the following Human Characters.
    The Storyteller: The Heartless Giant
    The Queen
    Prince Leo
    Prince Leo's Brother #1
    Prince Leo's Brother #2
    The Heartless Giant
    The Guard

    Lighthouse Island
    Zebb Norman
    Rosalie
    Clara Buford
    Fred
    The Fortune Teller
    Sam
    Jack
    Carl Simms

    Monster Maker
    Matthew Banting
    Alfie, Matthew's Dad
    Jan, Matthew's Mom
    Matthew's Teacher
    Chancey Bellow
    Periwinkle, Chancey Bellow's Wife
    Ben
    Reg
    Vaughn

    B. Cast Names of the following Human Characters.
    Miss Piggy's Hollywood
    Lars
    The Rodeo Drive Attendant, the man who was with George Wendt at the changing booths.
    The Rodeo Drive Saleswoman, who tends to Piggy when she wants to buy the dress.
    The Comedy Store Stand-Up Comedian, who proceeds Fozzie Bear.
    The Comedy Store Auditioner, who calls for the next person to do their act.
    Episode 8, Musicians:
    Sergeant Killer Death Machine
    The Ghost Story's Hotel Owner
    Episode 09, Garbage:
    The Female Human Mother
    The Young Human Girl

    C. Descripts and Cast Names of the following Human Characters.
    The Storyteller: The Soldier and Death
    The Soldier
    The Old Soldier
    The Card-Playing Beggar
    The Drumming Beggar
    The Fiddling Beggar
    The Soldier's Wife
    The Soldier's Son
    The Landlord
    The Devils
    Death
    Should the Czar be added?
    If so, please provide a descript along with the name of the actor who played him.

    The Storyteller: The True Bride
    Anya, the True Bride
    Should Anya be listed as just that? Or should she be listed as "Anya, the True Bride"?
    The Gardener/Prince
    How should Anya's love interest be added to the list?
    As the Gardener? As the Gardener/Prince? As the Gardener Prince? Or as Anya's Beloved?
    The Troll
    The Trollip, the Troll's Daughter
    The Townsman
    The Townswoman
    There were a few "Prisoners" in the Trollip's castle who shouted out as to how Anya's cries could go unheard of. Should these be added to the list?
    If so, please provide descripts if possible, and the human actors' names.
    The White Lion from Jim's segments appears in the story with a talking voice. Therefore, he won't be added to the group from this story since he's already listed properly. However, there was a statue of him towards the end of the story named the Thought Lion. Should there be an entry added for this statue known as the Thought Lion? Or should it be left off the list?

    The Storyteller: Sapsorrow
    The King
    The Crier
    The King's Men
    Should the Crier be listed apart from or with the King's Men?
    Sapsorrow
    Sapsorrow's Bad Sister #1
    Sapsorrow's Bad Sister #2
    Straggletag, Sapsorrow's alternate identity when working for the Prince.
    Should a separate entry for Straggletag be added or not?
    The Prince
    The Palace Kitchen Workers
    There were at least three people in this group.
    A woman, who could be the cook; a young adult man, appears when Straggletag's washing the dishes before the third dance; and a young boy, probably a servant.

    Living with Dinosaurs
    Dominick "Dom" Marshall
    Lee, Dom's Father
    Vicki, Dom's Mother
    Adrian, Dom's Uncle
    Victor, Dom's Cousin
    Dom's School Teacher
    Keith
    Dog or Doug the Dinosaur

    The Storyteller: The Three Ravens
    The King
    The Witch
    The Silent Princess
    Is this an appropriate denomination to include her in the list?
    Prince #1
    Prince #2
    Prince #3
    The Three Ravens
    The Young Prince
    Is this an appropriate denomination to include him in the list?
    The Young Prince's Father
    To differentiate from the first main King, should he be added to the list like this?
    The Three Baby Princes

    D. Remaining Questions/Requests.
    1 Wasn't there a "King" in the story of the Heartless Giant?
    If so, please provide a descript along with the rest of the cast from that story.
    Also, if possible, please provide the name of the actor who played this character.
    2 The Heartless Giant: The Magpie, The Salmon, and The Wolf.
    Need descripts of these and whether they should be added to the list.
    My point is that since they talked, thanks to the Storyteller's own narration, theyshould.
    3 Muppet_dk mentions a polar bear puppet present in Lighthouse Island.
    Should this character be counted?
    If so, please provide a descript and how it should be added.
    4 Need descripts of the following characters.
    Bean Bunny
    Clifford
    Digit
    Leon
    Lindburgh
    Vicky
    Waldo C. Graphic
    The White Lion

    The Secrets of the Muppets
    Jojo the Dog
    Bamboo

    Also, what Muppets figures in your opinion would serve best for customs of the Solid Foam?

    5 What differences in terms of description are there between the Story of the Hat-Sharpening King's King and the Hypocritic Oaf from its appearance on the Cosby Show? And are there similarly-differentiating differences between the Sandwich voiced by Jim Henson in the Secrets of the Muppets and the Disagreeable Sausage Sandwich from its appearance on the Cosby Show?
    Will leave you guys with this to work on, hope to hear from you soon.
  14. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    I'll try and get descripts for the characters on Monday, but for now here's more cast listings:

    The Comedy Store Stand-Up Comedian, who proceeds Fozzie Bear--played by Dave Goelz.
    The Comedy Store Auditioner, who calls for the next person to do their act--I think it's Jim Lewis.

    Musicians
    Sergeant Killer Death Machine--Wayne Best
    The Ghost Story's Hotel Owner--Chris Langham

    The Storyteller: The True Bride
    Anja, the True Bride--Jane Horrocks
    The Prince--Sean Bean
    The Troll--body: Frederick Warder; voice: Alan Armstrong
    The Trollop, the Troll's Daughter--body: Frederick Warder; voice: Sandra Voe
    Prisoner 1--Colin Hurley
    Prisoner 2--Robert Hamilton

    The Storyteller: Sapsorrow
    The King--Geoffrey Bayldon
    Town Crier--Robin Summers
    Sapsorrow--Alison Doody
    Sapsorrow's Bad Sister #1--Jennifer Saunders
    Sapsorrow's Bad Sister #2--Dawn French
    The Prince--James Wilby
    Minister--Tim Baker

    Living with Dinosaurs
    Dominick "Dom" Marshall--Gregory Chicholm
    Lee, Dom's Father--Michael Maloney
    Vicki, Dom's Mother--Juliet Stevenson
    Adrian, Dom's Uncle--Patrick Malahide
    Victor, Dom's Cousin--Danen Bastable
    Dom's School Teacher--Gwyneth Strong
    Keith--Myron McKay
    Case--Byron Spiers
    Girl--Pippin Ford-Jones
    Dog or Doug the Dinosaur--It's DOG.

    The Storyteller: The Three Ravens
    The King--Jonathan Pryce
    The Witch--Miranda Richardson
    The Princess--Joely Richardson
    Prince #1--Alexander Crockatt
    Prince #2--Charlie Condon
    Prince #3--Jeremy Stuart
    The Prince--Robert Hines
    2nd King--Richard Butler
  15. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Just a few questions to keep adding the cast names supplied lately.
    1 From Monster Maker, should it be "Matt Banting" or "Matthew Banting"?
    2 Should the mother be listed as "Matt's Mother" or "Jan, Matthew's Mother"?
    3 Should the father be listed as "Matt's Father" or "Alfie, Matthew's Father"?
    4 Cast from The Soldier and Death from www.imdb.com, hoping you guys can clarify why there are so many "Devils" amongst the cast.
    Devil: David Alan Barclay
    Devil: Michael Bayliss
    Tzar's Wife: Ishia Bennison
    Soldier's Wife: Jan Chappell
    Devil: Richard Coombs
    Devil: John Eccleston
    Devil: Geoff Felix
    Innkeeper: David Fleeshman
    Tzar: John Franklyn-Robbins
    Death/Devil: Alistair Fullarton
    Devil (voice): Peter Hawkins
    Devil (voice): Peter Marinker
    Soldier: Bob Peck
    Devil: Mike Quinn
    Fiddling Beggar: Stuart Richman
    Card Trick Beggar: Walter Sparrow
    Devil: Francis Wright
    Hope to hear from you guys soon and have a good weekend.
  16. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    The Devils are actually puppets, and that list includes the puppets and the voices.
  17. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK then... How many devils are there in The Soldier and Death?
    Also, what would you recommend for the inclusion of the Banting family from Monster Maker from the questions above?
    As for descripts of characters I still need from the lettered list above... Xerus took care of the main cast of Muppets, only the White Lion's left. That and the human cast from the Storyteller tales and the Remaining Questions portion above.
    And here's something else to ponder about: Xerus got me the names of four actors who appeared in Episode 05 of JHH. So far, I've only been able to confirm the appearance of three of them through www.imdb.com: Charles Dougherty, Karl Rumberg, and Don Draper. Kathleen Wirt is the only one who I haven't confirmed as appearing in Episode 05 of JHH. The problem is that www.imdb.com lists those actors as appearing as "Themselves" respectively and so I can't match anyone up with their onscreen appearance. If this proves to be a dead end for which even you guys are stumped, I'll just go ahead and add the characters from Miss Piggy's Hollywood leaving their actors' names for when I'm able to travel and do real research on the project.

    Well, think that's enough for now to get you guys going.
    Hope to hear from you soon, and have a good day.
  18. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    I'm not sure, but you could label them all under "The Devils" and "The Soldier's Devil".

    I guess I'd include first names since you want your list to be as complete as possible.

    The White Lion is basically a life-sized white lion.

    I'll get some descripts later.

    PS: Those four names are probably from the "Miss Piggy's Hollywood" segment.
  19. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Hmmmm. The Devils for the rest of the group, and The Sodier's Devil for the one that comes to serve him later cause he lost his foot. Yeah, could do it that way.
    As for the star character from Monster Maker, is it "Matt" or "Matthew" Banting?
    As for the names supplied, thought that was the case, but since I can't match anyone up with the onscreen appearances I'll just add them to the list. Would guess Kathleen Wirt's the Rodeo Drive Saleswoman cause that's the only female unknown that showed up in the special. Well, hope to hear from you guys again soon.
  20. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    The credits list it as "Matt", and that's what the other characters call him most of the time, so I'd go with "Matt Banting".


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