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Muppet Show Season 4 coming in 2013

Discussion in 'Muppet Merchandise' started by Traveling Matt, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

  2. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    What would it take to get a kickstarter started? Would that even work?
  3. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Why can't there be a thread where basically everyone on the forum gets and signs a muppet petition like these two. This would cause tons of impact and whatever company that we're petitioning would get a butt-load of e-mails all at once!
    Eyeball and dwayne1115 like this.
  4. panmanthe2nd

    panmanthe2nd Well-Known Member

    No, a Kickstarter wouldn't be the right thing for this situation. It would have to be Disney who started it.

    On Kickstarter, a company or an individual tries to raise money to do something (usually to release an item). But as we don't own the rights to The Muppet Show, we couldn't try to raise the money. :(
  5. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

    This is crazy...six years....I tried e-mailing, but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo they'd never leave their Hannnah Montana or Good Luck Charlie nonsense unrelased for that long......
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  6. CaseytheMuppet

    CaseytheMuppet Well-Known Member

    Neither of those are on dvd either....
  7. Eyeball

    Eyeball Well-Known Member

    I think I said it in another thread, this requires some form of publicity stunt like a muppet flash mob outside the disney head office lol (other ideas are welcome) , I mean its been so long I think I've nearly forgotten that a season 4 even exists.....
    jvcarroll and muppetlover123 like this.
  8. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    I think a Muppet flash mob in front of Disney headquarters is a good idea for like just being a good idea!!!!
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Hanna Montana is. Er... was, anyway.

    But yeah, Disney hates the thought of anything that isn't a movie on DVD. Something I've said like a hundred times on this site by now.
  10. CaseytheMuppet

    CaseytheMuppet Well-Known Member

    All I meant was that Disney isn't releasing anything tv-series related right now.

    It's annoying all the crap people give about Disney. They did a lot for the Muppets. Would I like to see seasons 4 and 5 come out? Yeah, of course! But will whining and complaining that Disney doesn't know what they are doing help? No. I have waited for a good 5 years now and will do so until it is released.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    They barely do at that. Ultimate Spider-Man got like 12 out of order episodes, and that's generous. Phineas and Ferb get their episodes cut into movies until recently when out of order episode segments (read: not full half hour episodes) on 2 disk sets (when they totally could fit into one). Even Gravity Falls gets the 1999 treatment- 6 whole episodes on a single disk. At least they're in order there, so that's something.

    I'd be more angry at Disney for their overall TV on DVD releases, but then again, I', still really annoyed at their not at all complete seasons of The Tick featuring Comedy Central edits, missing episodes, and no plans to finish the series that had one lousy shortened season left. Disney has no business and wants no business releasing TV shows on DVD. We were freaking lucky to even get the first three seasons. WITH Bonus features. They couldn't even do that with their Disney Afternoon sets.
  12. Eyeball

    Eyeball Well-Known Member

    Fair enough, but they must realise that loads of people want it, and how much money they could be getting by releasing the final 2 seasons on DVD? It's not like were asking for world peace now is it lol? And I for one am fighting this cause until the bitter end.
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That is, again, providing that this is Disney's fault for not wanting to release it. I really wish Disney outsourced production on these DVD's to some other company. We got Animated Beetlejuice and a good portion of Nicktoons because of outsourcing to SHOUT. Disney even outsourced some of their mediocre sitcoms to Lionsgate.

    But if it really is the music rights tie up, well... nothing can really be done. Long rant that ends with me calling estates and record companies out of touch misers who would rather license the songs to laxative commercials. You know how it goes.
  14. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    The popularity of streaming has changed the home video market. It offers more options without overhead and I'm not sure that the rights issues would be any different than if the programs were broadcast. That might be the future of all this. I just wish we'd get the final seasons of TMS. It most likely does have to do with securing rights. Disney's patient. They can wait. They own the Muppets in perpetuity. Music rights, however, are known to change hands.
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  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The era of physical home video is coming to an end, it's true... but Disney has yet to stream the Muppet Show episodes they did release. Streaming is a good thing, but there's so much horrendous politics behind who gets what and who gets to keep what for what amount of time. A slight disagreement can cause a series or movie to be pulled. If anything, the home video market has some stability behind it. At worst, pulled DVD rights leave you with some of the series.
  16. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    And the Internet can go down, don't forget that.
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  17. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    At the end of the day, at least we got something from Disney. Think about it, a decade ago all we had were those "Best of" DVDs for $22.95! Now we have 3 seasons on DVD, and if we want S4 or S5 we just search them up on YT. Though, I wonder if this would not be a problem if Jim were alive. I mean when he was, we didn't get full episodes on DVD, just segments like this were SS or something. Even in the early 90's we got segments, not episodes. Still, I think if we ever want these last two DVDs we'll have to really fight for them.
  18. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    I disagree.

    I agree with you on this one.

    Please stop the pessimism and jumping to conclusions, DrTooth. It's not healthy and it will not help our cause.

    Disney DOES care, even if it takes a long time to release stuff. And I do think that the TMS Seasons delays are NOT their fault. As people Jvcarroll and OpenVault Disney have stated, Disney WANTS to release the rest of the show and they know that the whole world wants that to happen, but still need to clear all of the rights issues with certain songs and celebrity estates (though I wish we could know which specific rights-holders and estates are refusing to cough up the licenses that Disney needs in order to release them, so we can go after them and not Disney). We also need to get the estates and rights-holders to realize that they too are losing money by not granting the licenses, so they too would make tons of cash by having such a famous TV show being released on DVD.
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2014
  19. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

    Well not seasons, but like three or four episodes.....and does that really sell that well? I just named two shows I actually heard of really....
  20. fozzieisfunny

    fozzieisfunny Well-Known Member

    How many years has it been since we've heard about season 4 coming out on DVD? Looks like Disney has broke their promise for the hundredth time... Like we didn't know that that was going to happen.

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