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MUPPETS Screenwriter Nicholas Stoller Says THE MUPPETS Might Be Coming Back to TV

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Duke Remington, May 5, 2014.

  1. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    My question is, what the heck is Frank Oz even doing right now? Besides performing :( and :super: occasionally on SS (FYI I saw one of his recent Grover performances, and not to be mean, but he sounds like a ..... point is he sounds off. Honestly I think he's retired, it's been 7 years since he last directed, so I think he's basically retired, correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  2. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Last I heard he was going to be directing a play. I'm not sure if its a Broadway, or off Broadway play but that is what I heard. I also heard and saw that he recently 8-9 months ago got married to a very beautiful lady, whose name I sadly can't recall.
     
  3. cahuenga

    cahuenga Active Member

    Famous directors often are directing commercials for tv but they are uncredited for that job. Maybe Frank is directing some commercials from time to time. Besides months ago I read about a film he would direct with Billy crystal, maybe they are working on that film ...
    Besides, I think Frank still cares for the Muppets, he even went to the studio where Letters to Santa were being taped only to say hello to his old pals. And we can`t forget he was looking to direct the next Muppet film until Segel came with his script.
    I still hope he would direct his film with the muppets...
     
  4. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Why are people trying to take down the Segel/Stoller/Bobin Muppet movies? Why are some of you trying to hate on them because of Frank not being involved?

    Frank is not the end-all be-all of the Muppets.

    Disney had every right to approve the Segel/Stoller/Bobin Muppet films--they were absolutely necessary for re-launching the franchise, especially the 2011 film.

    Plus, I very highly doubt that all the obscure character re-builds that we have gotten in the newer films would've happened if Frank and Jim Lewis were to have been behind the wheel--I can't see them caring about the obscure characters as much as Bobin and company do.
     
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  5. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Obscure Muppets are nice to see....but I would love to have seen a richer story line for Scooter, the band, and Rowlf. It's easy to throw obscure Muppets in any giving scene. What is truly a challenge is writing for the beloved Muppets, and staying true to who they really are.
    I loved both new movies, but what tuned me off to the writers is hearing how they think most of the Muppets are stupid. To me that is a big slap in the face to Jim, Frank, Dave, Richard, Steve,Bill and so on. I also think it's a slap in the face to us long time fans. We did not fall in love with the Muppets because they where stupid. We fell in love with them because they where smart, funny charming, irreverent. That is why I have "turned"against the new writers....
    We may not get obscure Muppets in a Oz/Lewis script, but we would have two people who have a better understanding of the Muppets.
     
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  6. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    In regards to the whole thing about them saying that the Muppets are stupid, I think some of you are taking it the wrong way and misinterpreting the words of Stoller and Bobin.

    I highly doubt that they even imply that the Muppets are stupid in a "Too Dumb to Live" kind of way, just that they're not necessarily the sharpest pencils in the box while still being smart, funny, charming and irreverent.

    Please back me up here, DrTooth...
     
  7. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I always said I don't think they meant it as an insult. One of them even said he just wasn't great at building up things. Thing is, historically the Muppets have been portrayed and described as mad, crazy, nuts, in a good way. And that's very different from saying the characters are stupid.
     
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  8. cahuenga

    cahuenga Active Member

    I have to say I love both The Muppets and Muppets Most Wanted, the last its my second favourite Muppet film. I only say that a new Frank Oz muppet movie would be the right step for the Muppet franchise now, only that. But I deeply love the last films.
     
  9. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I'll have to agree to disagree. No one really knows what the right direction is we're only giving opinions.
     
  10. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    The bad things about the new muppet films are that they don't give those characters real parts. I mean in TMM, GMC, and MTM Rowlf had roles where we got some of his characteristic charm from a duet with Kermit and telling him about his life, to playing the piano and stopping the dogs from barking at the mallory gallery, and tha whole "letter" scene. I mean one of the strongest points of MTM is that it has one individual scene for so many secondary characters like the Mayhem, Scooter, and Rowlf. The new ones just have them thrown in a random scene with random lines like "What are we going to do without Kermit" could've been said by Rowlf, Gonzo, Floyd, Walter, etc. I don't understand how hard it is for Nick and James to study TMS and learn their characters!
     
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  11. Jerry Bindas

    Jerry Bindas New Member

    i certainly would love to see the Muppets back on television. been a huge fan forever-i'm 46 and still loving them! disappointed MMW didn't do as well. not sure why it didn't-i'd attribute to timing of the release. Muppets being a family friendly bunch seem to do better with holiday releases. also thought the build up was less this time around. with The Muppets, seemed like the online presence was consistent for about a year with various videos...this time-MMW-seemed only a ramp up the last 2 months. but i digress-back to television. the dream would be an all Muppets channel-certainly enough material available for it-biggest obstacle is having all the Muppet properties divided among PBS/CTW, Disney, JHC, and others. however, i'd love to see Kermit & gang keep doing commercials. a few specials and a new Muppet Show. very similar to the original back in the late 70s. the format holds up, there would be no shortage of guest stars to choose from. use social media to promote the show on a regular basis. as for options on where to air-that's tough. maybe syndication again? worked well the first time. make a deal w/BBC America maybe? certainly many possibilities. regardless-a strong social media presence is needed whichever way they go-stronger & more consistent. there is still great potential with the Muppets, if Disney chooses to make the most of it. and handles it properly.
     
  12. Katzi428

    Katzi428 Well-Known Member

    Here's a bright idea! Try bringing TMS Seasons 4 & 5 (well 4 first of course) to DVD before doing anything else new!!:rolleyes: I realize there are copyright issues & all that. But there must have been with Seasons 1-3 & they came out without any problem . What's the holdup?
     
  13. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    $$$$$$$$. ^^^^*
     
  14. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    I truly think a muppet show might not work today, I mean as much as I want it too it might not. The only way to find out is to produce a pilot and test ratings!
     
  15. Katzi428

    Katzi428 Well-Known Member

    But they have enough money to make a NEW Muppet Show??
     
  16. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Copyrights are a b**** aren't they? And I'm taking a new MS with a grain of salt! Unless Disney says otherwise Ill believe it when I see it. As for the $$$ I've heard they want a ridiculous amount of money for the remaining two seasons of course no one really knows why it's all speculation and not saying disney doesn't have the mullah but when they can make their own show under their own copyrights don't you think that would be first? But again there's nothing set in stone that says a new MS is in the works it's just what Nicholas has heard. Hearing and doing are two completely different things.
     
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  17. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    It is pretty funny that Disney is claiming they are prevented from doing something because of money. Yeah, they're so poor, lol.
     
  18. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    They just don't wanna spend the money.
     
  19. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    It is annoying because copyright is supposed to protect the artist, not Mr. Cheapo Executive, lol.
     
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  20. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Stoller said that one of his Muppet movie ideas involves Kermit and Miss Piggy getting married. Not sure if I like that idea as the whole plot for a movie, but it reminds me of how in Jim Henson: The Biography, Jerry Juhl suggested an idea for a movie about Miss Piggy being pregnant, and Henson saying the idea was too specific.
     
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