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My Puppet Experiment

Discussion in 'Puppet Building and Performing' started by ToasterBoy, Dec 18, 2002.

  1. ToasterBoy Member

    I'm making a puppet of my Girlfriend's Dog to give to her (my girlfriend, not the dog) for Christmas. I just basically completed the head last night (still some work to do in the eyebrow area, but it's close).

    I now humbly submit the pictures here to you for your pleasure!


    Rock On!

    Grant



    Murph Puppet Front Of Head

    Murph Puppet Side Of Head
  2. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    Looks cool. I wanna see it when you get the fur and stuff applied!

    FOZ
  3. ToasterBoy Member

    Thanks and Ooops

    Thanks for the comments Foz.

    I realized I copied the same picture twice up there, so here's the other picture:

    Murph Puppet Side Of Head

    Thanks!

    Grant
  4. punkNpuppets New Member

    for a moment there i was gonna say 'holy sh-- thats the biggest puppet i've ever seen in my life'...but i was lookin at the pic wrongly
  5. ToasterBoy Member

    More Pics

    Work is progressing. It's taking a little longer than I would have like, but if I can get it all wrapped up by Monday night, I'll be golden.

    The fur on the front ogf the head has been added. Nose has been glued on. Tomorrow, Back of head and neck covered with fur and ears and eyes attatched. Then head should be done save for some trimming.

    Then work on the bodybegins, but that shouldn't take TOO long, It's a simple round body and arms.

    Anyway, here's some pics:

    http://members.aol.com/grant2395/MurphFurSide.JPG

    http://members.aol.com/grant2395/MurphFurFront.JPG

    http://members.aol.com/grant2395/MurphFurEyes.JPG

    It's going better than I expected for my very first, involved , puppet and dealing with all this pain in the ***** long fur is a good learning experience.

    Let me know what you think!

    Grant
  6. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    LOOKS GREAT!!

    EYES: What I always do first is get the head totally completed, then I get the eyes ready. I DO NOT "pupil" the eyes until after they are placed on the head. Then, I look straight at the puppet to see what his focal point will be, and I place the pupils on the eyes at that time.

    This is kind of using the "magic triangle" method where the pupils and nose kind of all line up where the puppet has a point of view and doesn't look up in the air, or too far to the side or down.

    Croaker (KSY) had an eye problem to me. Seems like he was always looking too far UP. That bothered me.

    The puppet looks SUPER COOL!!

    FOZ
  7. ToasterBoy Member

    Foz...

    Thanks for the eye tip. I really just put those on as a test. The pupils are REALLY uneven and painted poorly, so work will have to be done on them. I shall try your placement then pain tip. My problem is I'm having trouble getting the circles even. We'll see what happens today!

    This puppet is not turning out 100% like I had envisioned. I think it's going to look okay, but it's not what was in my mind's eye. I just have to keep telling myself, "It's my first."

    Hopefully I can get it all wrapped up before Monday night.

    I'll keep posting pictures as long as people are interested!

    Grant
  8. pdbooch New Member

    Eye Pupils

    Hey Toasterboy,
    awsome job so far!

    Here's a tip for the pupils. Go to a craft store or craft dept. of a store and find those circular felt stickers that go on the bottom of table lamps. They come as precut perfect circles, but they might be green, so you'll have to color them some how. But they're just like stickers and they're a perfect round shape.
    Hope that tip is clear enough for you.

    Also, what are you using for the fur? I've never seen that type of fur before. Really wicked!

    PDBOOCH
  9. ToasterBoy Member

    The Fur

    Thanks for the further eye tips!

    The Fur...now there's a story.

    The dog I'm patternining this after is a Pomeranian (I know, it's gone horribly wrong and no longer looks like a pomeranion, but that was my starting point). I knew I was fgoing to have to use long fur for it. Well I looked EVERYWHERE for it. Michaels, JoAnne Fabrics, Wal-Mart. Small fabric stores that service the movie and TV industry in Burbank. I would have even been happy with white fur the same length and then tried to DYE it. But I could not find it.

    At Thanksgiving I came up here to N. CA to visit the Family and everyone told me to go to a place in union square in San Francisco called BRITEX (I believe that is the name). So I drive down there, fight the crowds, pay for parking and go into this place. This place is HUGE! It's completely ubelievable. Four Floors of fabric. I show one of the guys a picture of the dog and hesays Third Floor, they have all the fur up there. So I go up and show the woman the picture and she says they don't have that color. So I say, "Do you have white fur I could dye?" She says sure and takes out this bolt of perfect fur. I tell her I need a half a yard and she says, "Okay that's $140!!"

    I freaked out! I asked if it was REAL hair. She said no. They had this really bright neon green cheapie fur and I said, no I need white fur like this and she said they were all out, but when they did have it, it was $24 per 1/2 yard. That still seemed way too much. So I thanked her and said I'd go elsewhere.

    I was at a loss. I had no idea where I was going to find this type of fur. Then it hit me! Where does one go in this fay and age to find ANYTHING your little heart desires? EBAY!

    I typed "Fur Fabric" into eBay and came up with a ton of results including the perfect "fox" colered fur I was looking for! Best part about it? 1/2 yard, BUY IT NOW price....$7!

    And that's how I found the perfect fur for this puppet and saved Christmas.

    God Bless eBay!

    Grant
  10. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    I'm glad pdbooch told you about the felt stickers, I was on my way back here to make mention of that. You can also buy circle stencils at an art store for different sized circles, draw them on the eye and then paint it in. Of course, the stickers work best (and I'm still painting on my pupils, go figure).

    Also glad you made note of EBay for fur fabric. I got some REALLY good fur prices on there in the past.

    Don't worry, if this is your first puppet, it looks superb! My first Muley puppet was kind of okay, but EW! compared to my abilities now as opposed to then...it's junk.

    Keep up the good work!

    FOZ
  11. Joggy Member

    This is funny. Whenever I mention "a puppet experiment" in school, my fellow students think it's XXX related.

    Back to the original subject.
  12. ToasterBoy Member

    Update....not that it matters.

    Got a lot of work done this aftrnoon. I did go pick up the felt circles and Lo And Behold...they make them in black! So SCORE!

    The head is done for the most part, just need to do some touch up work and attatch the neck. I have the hands finished (I may redo them though if i get everything done on time). I plan on working more after dinner tonight so I'll hold off on posting pictures till then!

    Thanks for all the advice!

    ROCK ON!

    Grant
  13. ToasterBoy Member

    Update...

    For any who care....


    Work's almost done. Just need to make some tweaks here and there, add eyes, arms and hands but it's close.

    I've uploaded all my pictures to one page now which you can visit at:

    http://homepage.mac.com/toasterboyg4/PhotoAlbum8.html

    Tell me what you think!

    Grant
  14. pdbooch New Member

    awsome

    That's looking great! Glad the felt eyes are working out for you too.
    I'm currently working on a baby dragon puppet for a friend. I'll get pix up soon.

    pdbooch
  15. ToasterBoy Member

    Progress and URL change

    Hey all. The URL of pictures has changed. Sorry about that. It's at:

    http://homepage.mac.com/toasterboyg4/PhotoAlbum9.html

    Got the body done. All that's left is eyes and eyebrows and then the rods for the hands. I'm not 100% happy with the hands, but they'll be fine for now.

    Grant
  16. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    Grant!!

    That looks GREAT!! I'm so proud of you!! And are you SURE this is your FIRST puppet to build??

    Groovy!!

    FOZ
  17. ToasterBoy Member

    Heh.

    Thanks for the compliments Foz! Yes this is the first REAL, trying to be professional, puppet I've built.

    A few years ago I built a sVERY simple sock puppet using the Muppets Make Puppets book. I also made a large Practical Hand Puppet with a broom for a head (as is also talked about in the Muppet book). Both of these were used for a pilot for a kids show, but neither had the time put into them that I did with this one.

    I should finish it all today (including arm rods and a display stand). I'll post pictures when it's all said and done.

    I've learned a lot while making this one. My main gripe with it is something no one even notices. I built the inner mough (with finger grips) musch like is described in the FOAM BOOK. But then I got a long atletic sock and slit it at the toe and covered the finger grips so it made a long tube that lead directly to the finger grips. During the rest of the construction of the head, the sock was a real pain to get on and off my arm and I feared that when I was finally done it would be impossible to get the sock off my arm without ruining the body, so I cut the sock off and built the rest of the puppet.

    Well it turns out that the sock was doing a great job of holding my hand firmly in the finger grips and without it, the puppet has a nasty habit of sliding foward on my hand. There's now no way, because I'm pretty much completed, that I can re attatch the sock, so I'm skrewed!

    I have remedies this my making an extra piece of foam that sort of wedges my hand more firmly in there, but it is no where near the same as that sock!

    But you learn as you go. Next one will have a sock.

    Thanks for the support through the whole thing! As I said I'll try to get some photos up tonight when it's all done!

    ROCK ON!

    Grant
  18. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    Hiya,

    If it's sliding forward, attach elastic to the base of it that you can wrap under your arm and over your shoulder to hold it down in place on your hand.

    FOZ
  19. ToasterBoy Member

    DONE!

    Well, I'm finished and not a moment too soon seeing as Christmas is only a day away and the girlfriend gets in this afternoon! This last picture has no arm rods, but they are added now. I also have dowels on the end of them (which were stained to look nice and I also made a display stand. Murph also has a green chew bone made of foam and a computer printed Pedigree. Once I get back to S. California, I'll make a nice page detailing the progress, but for now, here's te last photo!

    MurphDone.JPG

    Thanks to everyone who contributed! I can't wait to make my next puppet!

    ROCK ON!

    Grant
  20. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    I am PROUD of you!!!

    Looks great!!

    Now, come do me a puppet show. :)

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