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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by mr3urious, Jun 27, 2015.
Apparently the original series didn't get closure, so I can kinda justify this revival.
That makes sense. Though, clearly about 10 years are going to pass, so whatever closure would have to be done in flashback form. And they're going to have to work some convolution to write off Mellisa McCarthy's character since she's a major star now. I'm happy for the fans of this, I guess, but I just could never get behind this show. They talk like no one in the real world does, and fast to get every piece of dialogue in there in the hour run time. If they spoke at a normal pace I'm sure the show would have 2 hour episodes. Plus, I was forced to watch a couple of them lately, and the show is depressing. And not the good deep heart feeling depressing of a Pixar film or half the episodes of Adventure Time about Ice King. The "why does this have to be so depressing" depressing that I find offputting.
Hilariously, this show airs on "wholesome" channels now, and the show basically has the message of those small community towns are just awful. The main characters seem to hate everything about it, the mother is an overbearing monster...which is funny for Archer and Arrested development and to an extent 2 and a half men, but unlikable in a dramatic setting.
I agree that PIEGUYRULZ is more tolerable and level-headed than Mr. Enter, but he too needs to lighten up about some things like Teen Titans Go, which he does miss the point of, just like Enter and other irrational crybaby fanboys who are mostly or completely incapable of saying anything nice, constructive, balanced or positive.
Actually, I just realized something via a Cartoon Hangover video that really has me interested in a new Magic School Bus. I'll give you the video and you can try and guess.
If you said "we have a deeper understanding of sciences years after the show was produced," that's exactly what I'm talking about. When it comes to science in media, things get disproven an it dates the material, unfortunately. I was very impressed by the little aside in Jurassic World about how those were probably not what dinosaurs looked exactly like, but it's what the tourists expect. Thus getting them out of any scientific inaccuracies that would have no doubt haunted the franchise in the future. I can't wait to see the Friz on more accurate science lessons, and I'm sure that's what the kids deserve.
I wouldn't exactly say 'wrong,' (some, perhaps, but not all of them) I would say most of those are oversimplified so that kids can understand the idea. I mean, these are advanced concepts that are being taught to young children who can barely read and write. You're going to lose some detail somewhere to make the ideas easier to digest.
Yeah. Some of the stuff isn't so much wrong as glib, but when it comes to the original series, discoveries and breakthroughs have been made since. So hopefully they keep current with a new series. I'd love them to do an episode about the Pluto debate, actually.
And the writers take some liberties in science for the sake of storytelling. For example, any episode involving shrinking would cause Friz and the kids to be crushed to death under their own weight as their mass wouldn't change along with their size. Either that or they'll just sink into the ground.
I'm glad the list/video didn't get nitpicky to point out that sort of thing and realizes it's a cartoon series. Though I have a slight problem with the last one about Friz's catchphrase. While it is true that serious, career scientists prefer controlled environments, you're not going to exactly excite kids with it. The line is clearly geared towards younger kids with a sense of adventure to go an explore around places and play around with scientific concepts to get them on the road to such technical science based careers. Or at least get a general interest.
I also started to recall an episode where the class learns about how cars work as they travel inside the bus' engine to find out what's wrong with it, and along the way, they show that it has a carburetor. I have a feeling that if they do an episode like that with the new series, the bus will use fuel injection instead, as that's been the automotive standard since the '80s.
I'd love it if they'd do an episode about different car engines, actually. Have them talk about gas burning and hybrid cars, as well as alternate fuel sources.
There's so many advances in science since the show, the books even, began. Whatever can be said about the necessity of certain cartoons getting reboots, I feel that Magic School Bus is a show that totally needs to find a new generation of those who want to learn more about science.
Are they gonna go inside people's bodies again? That was my favourite part of the show haha
I ALWAYS HAAAAAATED THIS SHOW
They finally released a trailer:
Interesting... so, the reason Kate McKinnnon is Ms. Frizzle now is because she's playing a different Ms. Frizzle, she's playing the original's sister. But, don't worry, the original Frizzle makes a guest appearance (still played by Lilly Tomlin). Also, interestingly, Hamilton's Lin Manuel Miranda sings the theme song now. Seriously, that guy is everywhere these days!
Can't say i'm keen on the animation style, but that doesn't mean the show can't still be good. I'll give it a chance.
Will the original (Lily) still be on the show?
Like I said (and you can see in the trailer) Lily will make an appearance as the original, but she won't be a major character.
So a minor character then?
Can't say I'm too keen about this, either. While they got Lily Tomlin back to voice Ms. Frizzle, she's taking a backseat to her younger sister created just for this reboot? Real jarring to me. And surely they could have gotten a better studio if they're going for cheap Canadian tax write-off Flash animation, like maybe Bardel or Mercury Filmworks rather than 9 Story, a.k.a. the ones who worked on Arthur. Feels far too flat and creaky like a lot of them, and have done better work with Wild Kratts and Peg + Cat on PBS.
I do like the new bus design, though. Has more of a modernized look to it, and could possibly be a hybrid. Maybe we'll see a remake of that episode where they try to save the bus from getting sent to the junkyard by going inside it and learning about how it works?
I'd like to see Tim get more of a personality, too. He was clearly the least interesting personality-wise.
This looks interesting and will be watching.
OMG, you're right, I literally always forget Tim was even on the show. Considering he hardly had any lines a lot of the time, maybe he could have more of a shy, introverted, book worm-ish type personality. Or maybe he could be more of a quiet thinker who seems like their's not much going on in his head, but he's really just sizing the situation up and coming up with smart plans. I dunno.
Anyway, re-watching the show more recently, I realized, sure Tim was boring, but Phoebe was just flat out useless. All the other characters made smart observations and helped when things got dangerous, but from the episodes i've seen Phoebe just sits there and talks about her old school. Not exactly the brightest kid in class.
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