I agree with Brian in alot of ways. The Muppets were for adults since Jim became more serious with puppetry. He fought hard for getting The Muppet Show on the air. No one believe that Muppets could be for adults. Sadly, the public is judging puppets should be for kids only. Heck, I'm trying to prove people wrong myself with my show that's going to not only be on public access in my area but on the net too. For more details, my site is http://muppetpro.tripod.com/ericworksinc/ Even though somethings can be going to far, sometimes you got to push your limit in order to get your point acrossed. That I believe is what Jim would have done.