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Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Apr 13, 2012.

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  1. charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    Personally, I'd love to see a more-ensemble type approach to the next movie, sort of like The Muppets Take Manhattan, where while Kermit was the main character and drove the action, lots of Muppets got their own scenes and opportunities to shine. That way characters like Rowlf, Scooter, and the Electric Mayhem can all get opportunities for their own little scenes.

    And I completely totally one hundred thousand percent agree with the statement that the Electric Mayhem need a song in the next movie.
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  2. muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    (1) What would you like to see as the plot in the new Muppet "comedy caper" type film?

    Maybe one where the muppets play themselves not as a trying to save the theater movie like VMMCM or TM. And dont try and make them modren

    (2) What characters would you like to see have the leading roles?

    I felt fozzie and piggy and walter had pretty big roles in TM so i think the leads should be Kermit obviously. Maybe fozzie and piggy and gonzo have a little smaller roles making up for gonzos lack of screen in TM and supporting roles can go to rowlf scooter the band and rizzo pepe and walter. And maybe other characters like uncle deadly and bobo.

    (3) Do you want a Muppet villain (like in Muppets From Space, Letters to Santa and The Muppets) and if so who, or would you prefer the villain to be just a human role for one or more characters?

    i know a villan helps a movie but i kind of dont want a villian lol i know it sounds crazy but its my opinion if i had to pick it would be muppet villians they're more interesting

    (4) Whether they were in The Muppets or not, what five minor characters do you hope have a bigger role in the new movie?

    Johnny and Sal, Robin, Clifford, Rizzo and Pepe - i did 6 lol :fanatic:

    (5) What style of music would you like for the new film? Are there any characters that you hope have a song in the new movie?

    Electric mayhem defently needs their own song we have all them recast and sounding almost spot on they need their own song. And i say we give a variety of characters a spot to shine with a new song like maybe give characters like Scooter ;) Walter :fanatic: Rowlf :sympathy: Bunsen and Beaker:confused::eek: their own solo song but have them sing it together. You get what im saying?
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  3. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The more I think about "Cheapest Muppet Movie" the more I realize why Jim and the rest didn't do it. It's too high concept, and it could either play off as fun weird or unsettling weird. It seems more fit for a Monty Python movie, I think it could work for the Muppets, but more casual fans would be completely confused by the film, and that would chase them back into watching the DVD's over and over again. It's a very risky gamble to have such a high concept based movie. It could either be a huge payoff or a huge bust. It's best that, even with the moderate success of the last movie, they air on the side of caution. Cheapest may work as a third movie... it's just not ready yet.

    Hopefully we get a plotline that actually can fit a full Electric Mayhem song. Partial songs in the last movie were the biggest thing they've done since MTM... but we need a full EM number in the next one.
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  4. minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I don't see what's wrong with chasing back to watching the older DVDs over and over again. How many of us here haven't rewatched the older Muppet DVDs after seeing the recent movie?
  5. minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    (1) What would you like to see as the plot in the new Muppet "comedy caper" type film?

    I'd like to see a plotline that involves the Muppet theater. Perhaps the Muppets could get a big celebrity who turns out to be the villian in some way, using his celebrity status to manipulate the world or Muppets (I can think of a number of possibilities involving a bad/evil celebrity).

    (2) What characters would you like to see have the leading roles?

    Kermit, Miss Piggy, Fozzie, Gonzo, Rowlf, Scooter, Bunsen and Beaker, Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem, with heavy supporting use of Rizzo, Pepe, Link Hogthrob, Dr. Strangepork, and Lew Zealand.

    By "hevay supporting use", as an example from previous movies, I consider the "leading roles" from The Muppets Take Manhattan to be Kermit, Fozzie, Piggy, Gonzo, Rowlf, Scooter, Camilla, and the Electric Mayhem, while I consider Rizzo's big role to be "heavy supporting use". Though even then you could say that anyone who wasn't Kermit or Piggy had "heavy supporting use" for act 2 of the film. Another example would be Muppets from Space... Kermit, Gonzo, Rizzo, Pepe, Piggy, Fozzie and Animal were the leads, but Bunsen, Beaker, Bobo, and to a lesser extent Clifford were also heavily used.

    Actually, though I doubt it will happen with this movie, I'd like to see a Muppet movie that stars someone other than Kermit or Gonzo, like all those Winnie the Pooh movies starring supporting characters. Though such a plot would need to be better than Muppets from Space and Kermit's Swamp Years.

    (3) Do you want a Muppet villain (like in Muppets From Space, Letters to Santa and The Muppets) and if so who, or would you prefer the villain to be just a human role for one or more characters?

    If the movie is going to have new Muppet characters, then yes, I want some Muppet characters working for the villian. Though it would be cool to see some older monster characters working for the villian (I'm thinking Doglion, Behemoth, and a few Frackles).

    (4) Whether they were in The Muppets or not, what five minor characters do you hope have a bigger role in the new movie?

    Not counting characters I said would be good as villians, I'd like to see Digit, Lips, Pops, Droop, and Louis Kazagger given something to do. I noticed that the few who have responded to this so far mentioned characters like Johnny Fiama and Sal, but those characters aren't really minor characters (even if they've hardly been used for decades), though by that logic I might need to list somebody other than Digit since he was a main character on The Jim Henson Hour.

    (5) What style of music would you like for the new film? Are there any characters that you hope have a song in the new movie?

    I really just want to see all original songs, maybe one or two Muppet-performed covers. The Electric Mayhem needs a song, and Rowlf needs a song (I can't believe Rowlf has only had ONE song of his own in any movie, and that's shared with Kermit). I don't really want any established recordings in the soundtrack, except for maybe the end credits.
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  6. panmanthe2nd Active Member

    This is great! :) :D :) I hope this goes ahead without any problems. I think a early to mid 2014 release would be best.

    I myself love the sound of a comedy caper. I don't think they'll just copy GMC.

    The main thing I want to be different from the last movie is that I want more Muppets and less humans! And a lot more Muppets singing song.
  7. Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Oh Jim what would you do? Lol!
  8. Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    *facepalm*

    ca·per
    verb (used without object)
    1.to leap or skip about in a sprightly manner; prance; frisk; gambol.
    noun
    2.a playful leap or skip.
    3.a prank or trick; harebrained escapade.
    4.a frivolous, carefree episode or activity.
    5.Slang . a criminal or illegal act, as a burglary or robbery.
    Yay for dictionaries! I'm pretty sure the term caper here is being used as the giant bolded definition. Why people keep worrying about it being a "sequel" of sorts to GMC baffles me
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  9. Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    No offense, but the next movie needs to be out of the theater. GMC was so different from TMM and that's what the next one needs to do; not be set in some continuity and just be its own thing. And the evil celebrity has been done already (Glenda Jackson, Heather Locklear) and it worked for a half-hour show; probably not for a full movie.
  10. Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I say we just take everything with a grain of salt and just wait and see. I'm hoping though if the musical score is as good as it was in this movie that they put it on the soundtrack. I was really disappointed they didn't put the score into this soundtrack. James is a muppet fan himself so I'm sure he has some understanding of what the "muppet spirit" is. For all we know they just scrapped another storyline and are working on another one who knows only time will tell. But I'm gonna put my worries aside and just enjoy that a script is in the works.
  11. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I refer to, of course, being scared out of watching newer projects. There's nothing wrong with the older stuff at all. But the difference between nostalgia and a franchise is a recurring presence.

    I'm saying "Cheapest" wouldn't grab them back like The Muppets did. it would alienate them. And we do NOT need that. it's not time to play with house money yet.

    Agreed fully.

    The last movie needed the theater for the plot of the comeback and the nostalgic backing. It is THE only theatrical film that even used the theater, and the second over all after VMX. Why all the Muppet movies worked was that they weren't grounded to the theater, allowing them to run off and become other things. GMC was a great movie because they were able to hit a reset button and have the characters play themselves as themselves in other roles. That's the thread from GMC I hope they continue
  12. Stulz Member

    Jamie's right, without the creation of "New" Muppets in movies we would not have Polly Lobster, Clueless Morgan, Miss Poggy or Walter.

    Although there is something to be said about using the conceit that the Muppets are playing themselves/or other characters in a movie to use existing characters in new roles, like Dr Phil Van Neuter and Bobo in MFS... and imagine if Scooter was one of the ghosts in MCC as originally planned.
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  13. Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    It better not just be a copy of GMC. Arrgh, I'm getting really nervous for this movie. Another comedy caper? What's it gonna be called? The Great Muppet Sequal?
  14. Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    It's not. That's what most of this thread has been dismissing. We know next to nothing about it at the moment. You're making sharp judgements based on practically no info. Look at what Sarge wrote:

    Using the term "caper" to describe the plot doesn't ensure it will be the same as GMC. That movie's my favorite Muppet movie and I'm not afraid of it being a retread. I'm waiting for some concrete info and ya' know, actually SEEING the movie before making a judgement on it. And that's a long ways away.
  15. Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Boy this is gonna be a long discussion till a storyline is finalized. Lol!
  16. KingR76 Active Member

    I'm just glad that the Muppets will be having another movie :)
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  17. Yuna Leonhart Well-Known Member

    Me, too. Although I do admit I'm a little worried that it will be rushed but I have faith it's going to be terrific. And who knows? Maybe it's going to be one of the best. So, let's just wait and see.
  18. Gonzo Fan New Member

    1. I am not sure
    2. Bunsen Honey and beaker!
    3. I would like to see them do more with The Moopets, I am not sure what I would like to see at this time, but I did enjoy them and think they would make grate villains
    4. I am not sure
    Yes The Electric Mayhem needs a solo song! As for music, Rock, Jazz, Funk, and what ever else they can have fun with. I know I am probably in the minority, but Tex Richman’s rap is a guilty plusher of mine, so I wouldn’t mind hearing a little clean rap in the next movie.
    Some songs that I would like to hear in the movie are
    Play That Funky Music - Wild Cherry
    Miami -Will Smith
  19. Stulz Member

    (1) What would you like to see as the plot in the new Muppet "comedy caper" type film?

    What if someone's kidnapping family entertainers but forgot about the Muppets, since they weren't famous enough. So the muppets are recruited to help solve the mystery. Would be great for cameos, by famous entertainers, other puppets, Sesame Street characters, even other Disney and non-Disney properties... ala Roger Rabbit. Call the lawyers!

    (2) What characters would you like to see have the leading roles?

    Kermit, Fozzie, Gonzo, Piggy, Scooter, Pepe, Rowlf, Rizzo, Bunsen, Beaker, and the Electric Mayhem.

    (3) Do you want a Muppet villain (like in Muppets From Space, Letters to Santa and The Muppets) and if so who, or would you prefer the villain to be just a human role for one or more characters?

    No, while I think it's a fun idea to have a comical Muppet sidekick, the fact that we've seen this in MTI, VMMXM, MFS, and again most recently in The Muppets is enough. In GMC the bad guys were the just the bad guys ("pure an simple") we don't need comic relief. How about a female villain? VMMXM was the only production to have one.

    (4) Whether they were in The Muppets or not, what five minor characters do you hope have a bigger role in the new movie?

    I would have to agree I'll see your Johnny and Sal, Robin, and Clifford and add Bean Bunny.

    (5) What style of music would you like for the new film? Are there any characters that you hope have a song in the new movie?

    The Electric Mayhem absolutely needs a solo song in this film. In fact it would be great to one day see a movie centered around them one day ala a "Spinal Tap" type spoof .. hint hint.. As for music type, there really shouldn't be one style. The Muppets work best when multiple styles are used together.. a hip/hop, soul, funk number would be nice since we haven't seen that in awhile, but I think we can exclude "rap" for this next movie.
  20. KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    (1) What would you like to see as the plot in the new Muppet "caper" type film?
    I've actually been thinking how cool it would be to have a neighborhood watch kind of story, and it's reminding me a bit of "The Burbs", but different. Kermit, Fozzie, and most of the main crew live together in a big house, but every day they get their gear on and patrol. New monsterish neighbors move in (a bunch of Frackles, Boppity leading the way alongside a dastardly human villian(?)) (or maybe a travelling circus/carnival/freak show?), and strange things start to happen around the neighborhood. Things get way out of control, and our band of heroes decide to call in some specialists. Muppets on Patrol or something, lol, I dunno.

    (2) What characters would you like to see have the leading roles?
    The main crew; Kermit, Piggy, Fozzie, Rowlf, Gonzo & Camilla, & Scooter... plus Dr. Teeth & Co., and of course Walter has to be in there somewhere. Plenty of Chef, Rizzo, Bunsen & Beaker, Robin, Sweetums, Pepe, etc. too, naturally.

    (3) Do you want a Muppet villain (like in Muppets From Space, Letters to Santa and The Muppets) and if so who, or would you prefer the villain to be just a human role for one or more characters?
    I mentioned the Frackles above, but they'd really kinda be just poster-Muppets to the human villian or two, or... maybe not even them. I see someone like Catherine Tate or George Clooney playing the "bad guy", or other actors along those lines; completely comedic normally, or totally out of left field, with a couple either comedic or serious acting henchmen to round them out.

    (4) Whether they were in The Muppets or not, what five minor characters do you hope have a bigger role in the new movie?
    I'd LOVE to see Clueless Morgan and Mad Monty hanging around the skate park or something, ha ha. Rizzo would benefit from a larger role, as well as Pops and Bean Bunny! Sam, Link & Strangepork, Harry, and Lew for 5 more, hee-hee!

    (5) What style of music would you like for the new film? Are there any characters that you hope have a song in the new movie?
    Muppet Style!!! :D Do they get classified as carnival music? Maybe just zany, ha ha. Definitely a purely Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem number!! But yeah, all Muppets. :)
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