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New Muppet Pilot in Development by Randall Einhorn (The Office, Modern Family) for ABC

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Apr 2, 2015.

  1. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

  2. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member


    So glad this is news. We've been in the dark on this for so long.
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  3. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    I know it's not right to judge something before you see it, but I'm really optimistic about this project. For one thing, it's written by a great comedy writer. Also, it's being produced for ABC (and NOT Disney Channel)!
  4. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    To be honest, I'd be happier with Netflix, but ABC could work too. Problem is the stakes are higher on network TV. Everybody cross your fingers that this gets picked up and is put on a Sunday evening timeslot, ideal for families. The ratings NEED to be good or it's a death sentence to the characters.
  5. Iscah

    Iscah Well-Known Member

    I'd be wary at this point, just because it's close enough to April Fools' Day for fake information to be mistaken-for-fact and passed on...
  6. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    I agree. Netflix or Prime would be the best place for the Muppets these days. That's where all the good television is these days and there's less pressure to achieve and maintain the (now irrelevant) ratings numbers.

    That said, Netflix usually has truncated seasons of ten to twelve episodes that are shot and released all at once. That would mean it could take a while to see any of them on that particular service. Still, Muppets began as innovators and they're best suited innovating on the small screen. Movies are icing on the cake.

    I'm not sure where they'd fit on ABC. Could it be a summertime show? Would it be on Sundays? Could they fold it into the weekday schedule? However, please for the love of Frog, not on Fridays! Young people are usually out doing something on Fridays. It's the kiss of death slot best served for reruns of Matlock.

    We were all so worried after the tepid box office for last year's MMW film. This does show renewed confidence on the part of Disney. People wondered what the heck they were doing with those goofy Disney Jr interstitials and the ESPN brackets ads. Those are Disney owned stations and advertising Muppets on them don't cost a thing. It's smart marketing and it shows they actually respect the brand.

    And on the subject of MMW, so many films under-performed last year. How to Train Your Dragon 2 and the Penguins of Madagascar movies should have been slam dunks. Critics could claim that they weren't as good as they could have been or that they could have been better marketed, but none of that mattered much before now. The lackluster Shrek and Madagascar sequels fared very well. So what's different now? I don't think it has anything to do with the quality of the films or even ticket prices. People seem to have lost interest in the film experience itself. I think it might snap back after this year's Star Wars and Marvel offerings. However, I think those films are part of what's killing the film industry. Smaller films not connected to bigger extended worlds or based on young adult novels aren't that popular anymore. Let's hope that trend changes.

    Anyway, back to the show. Seeing Lips with the band and the image of part of the Swinetrek set give me hope about the content. I just wonder how soon it will appear on TV? Will it have time for a fall premiere? This is usually when they film such pilots. Fingers crossed. Yaaaaaay! :)
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Streaming sites have come to the rescue for shows that networks refuse to touch. Inspector Gadget's new cartoon finds a home there, rather than no export to us like the last show. I'd say Nick and CN screwed Dreamworks out of their animated movie based programming (MVA was abruptly canned after one season, Riders of Berk just disappeared), but their Netflix deal seems to have them thriving (though I think they're only one season deals. Kinda disappointed that Turbo needs a few more episodes because of what they set up). And let's not forget Yahoo stream giving Community a new lease on life when NBC just hated Dan Harmon so much, they put "The Slap" on and thought people would watch that instead.

    But it's still a massive tangle of sweetheart deals that see shows and movies disappearing all the time, some moving to other paysites because of better offers. It's very much unreliable. And if you want to watch everything, you're going to have to pay for each site. Granted, at least it's a better set up than refuses to go ala carte cable (No, I don't want the 5 religious channels and countless home shopping networks, I just want freaking XD... can't do that), but it's still going to cost you to see everything.

    ABC found itself with it's Wednesday Night sitcoms and Thursday Night dramas. They still have embarrassingly stale reality shows (really?!?! the Bachelor is still on?), and Friday Night awful Tim Allen shows. But I don't see them giving any Muppet vehicle a chance. There's no where to put it. Fridays or Sundays. Not really good time slots that MT once had. I don't think they'd get anything prime or competitive. ABC Family swears people are watching Mellisa and Joey... I don't see Muppets thriving on any of their other cable channels, either.

    Both HTTYD2 and Penguins were poorly timed. I'd say HTTYD 2 felt the same movie goer family burnout that Peabody and Sherman and MMW suffered. Penguins got it worse. That Thanksgiving Weekend isn't half as successful as they think it is. At least not any more. Dreamworks films released before that weekend of that Month tend to do much better. Penguins also faced TOUGH competition from Big Hero 6, so there's that too. And frankly, Dreamworks had a feeling POM wasn't going to make the insane amount of money Madagascar 3 did. I don't think they even had much faith in it since they randomly dumped it on that weekend because they didn't want Home to get a all or nothing weekend. And it WORKED! Home opened the strongest since The Croods. But the Penguins? Even the Happy Meal toys were recycled (from the TV show promotion 4 years ago). I've never seen them do that before ever. Something tells me not a single flipper was given.
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  8. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    So excited :)
  9. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    Floored by this news, it's what I've been hoping for all these years! A pilot on ABC indicates that Disney is confident the Muppets can appeal to all ages, and while we don't know details yet, someone from The Office and Modern Family being behind it indicates a sitcom format, which would be a great step for the Muppets. I can't wait for more information to come out and am hoping for the best!
  10. MUPPETFAN1976

    MUPPETFAN1976 Well-Known Member

    I'm shocked by this news. I'm so excited!

    First time I remember Kermit talking about this was at Barnes & Nobles in November of 2003.

    Anything before this?
  11. Muppetboy09

    Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    Alright, The Muppet Mindset CLAIMS that the pictures of the Electric Mayhem as well as the Swinetrek were for something else...still excited for this!
  12. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    Sunday nights could work. It's worked before as an ideal time for families. When the Wonderful World of Disney was on it was a big hit by families so hopefully this show can do the same. Times have changed, but I think the show can work.

    Those clips were something for Youtube. On some of the photos posted you can see it says Youtube on it, and another said "Muppets Youtube".
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  13. RealWonderman

    RealWonderman Well-Known Member

    I can't even...
    I just said on Monday "I'm getting Wonder Woman on the big screen, Princess Leia back in Star Wars. If they'd just do the Muppet Show again I'd have my trifecta."
  14. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    Where did they say this?
  15. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Hmm... If this does become a reality, I'm kind of wondering where in the week it could go as well.

    Sundays? While it could potentially go in at either 7 or 7:30 PM, most people would tune in starting at 8 PM instead for the block of Once Upon a Time followed by Resurrection and Revenge. Though there's a possible family-vibe with the grown-up feel of Once Upon a Time, the other shows are more adult-oriented dramas.

    If this project is a sitcom styled show written by this comedy guru, then it'd fit better with whatever other Tuesday and/or Wednesday sitcoms he's written for ABC.

    ABC Family could work... But only in the same sort of capacity as Jamie pointed out earlier with the streaming networks. Ten to twelve episodes (whatever constitutes a half-season) gets aired at one point of the year, only to get switched out with half a season of another show for another portion of the year, only to then get switched back with the second half of the first show. That's why Melissa and Joey and Baby Daddy have been replaced for the time being with the second? season of Young and Hungry and the new Freak-Out shows. So I'm questioning the possibility.

    I want to be optimistic and hope a new Muppet Show production does indeed air, so please excuse us if we seem negatively-minded when pointing out the realities of the current networks' scheduling situation.

    *Keeps fingers crossed.
    :batty: Please, no crosses.
  16. Beakerfan

    Beakerfan Well-Known Member

    This is so exciting! I'm not too worried about how it will do - I think there's enough of us excited and waiting for it that it has a chance for a decent following.
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  17. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    On Facebook
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  18. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    I could see this show working on Tuesday or Wednesday nights on ABC, the same slots that benefit its single-camera comedies, though it could also fit nicely in its Sunday night slot. And if they refuse to pick it up, there's always Netflix, the same service that has worked well for Dreamworks.

    And, no, I do not want to see this thing on the Disney Channel. Us Muppet fans would rather not have it lumped in with all those cookie-cutter tweencoms.
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2015
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  19. WalterLinz

    WalterLinz Well-Known Member

    I...I...I have no words. I'm just crying tears of happiness from what we've all been hearing from about these characters. Just...all I can say is I can't wait!!!
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2015
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  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member


    This is exactly what they said they were doing ten years ago, then Disney shelved it.

    I have a little more confidence this time around that it'll actually happen since Disney's come through with two movies, but once again, I still have to see this before I believe it.

    That said, why do we keep having to go to people of other shows rather than hold onto actual Muppet people to work on these shows for us like Jim Lewis, Dave Gumbel, Kirk Thatcher, or even Joey Mazzarino?

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