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New Muppets Interstitial Series on Disney Junior 2015

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by WalterLinz, Oct 26, 2014.

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  1. WalterLinz

    WalterLinz Well-Known Member

    I saw on both The Muppet Mindset and ToughPigs' Facebook accounts they have said from what they've heard, these segments are aimed at kids, but still hilarious for adults to watch. Sounds great! But (sigh), still...it doesn't look like that several people are pretty comfortable about watching this series on a preschool network...:p

    Hopefully these will pop up sometime online soon.:p
     
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  2. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I was reassured by an inside source that this is going to be really good all ad libed stuff. frear not fans fear not.
     
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    To be honest, I do agree. I wouldn't want to see a preschool themed Muppet Program...well, featuring these characters anyway. But short interstitial bits like Muppet Time (only featuring famous characters) sound like a nice way to utilize the characters.

    Too bad they can't make these for all Disney channels, though.
     
  4. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    To all the people concerned about this: I've heard that although the shorts are on a channel where it doesn't belong, the shorts are awesome. They are just as wacky and awesome as you'd want them to be. Plus, Bill Barretta directed every single one. Muppet fans should enjoy this very much.

    You know what else is heading to Disney Junior next year? A Lion King spin-off named "The Lion Guard", which is described as "kind of The Lion King meets The Avengers. Does this mean Disney sees The Lion King as a kiddy franchise? No chance.

    If I was in charge of Disney, I would have ordered an Frozen interstitial series by now, and it's awesome that they're so eager to put new Muppet stuff out there. Trust me, this short series will lead to much more awesome things, and should not in any way negatively affect the Muppets.
     
  5. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    That is very reassuring, maybe this was the reason why there was that big article a few months ago about how Disney was planning a new muppet show, since Bill Baretta directed these, I doubt they will be bad, and it is even more reassuring that other non kiddy franchies are coming to the channel.
     
  6. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    This is a good thing!!

    There are too many kids who don't know who the frog Kermit and the Muppet gang are. I'm thoroughly convinced that is what this is all about.

    • The Muppets already catered to the Disney Channel crowd with Studio DC (with mixed results) and came away with some new fans.
    • The Muppets catered to Gaga's fans (again, to mixed results) and came away with some little monster fans.
    • The Muppets catered to nostalgic pseudo fans (with great results) with Segel's film and came away with happy viewers.

    Little of this, however, helped get butts in the seats for Muppets Most Wanted. I'd hate to say it, but the most scathing reviews I've heard (of the otherwise fantastic film) were from parents of little ones who didn't connect to the movie - and connection to the characters is key for that to happen.

    I know. I'm not keen on the kiddification of the Muppets either, but with Barretta at the helm, I don't think that's going to happen. I think these are going to be wonderful commercial bumpers that are merely placed to be seen by a market that hasn't yet received a proper introduction. A direct one just for them.

    Today's toddlers are tomorrow's tweens and teens and they're the ones that (for better or for worse) movies are marketed toward. This is not some kind of Muppet purgatory. This is not just where they've ended up after a lackluster box office performance. Disney's laying the groundwork for the long run - the next Muppet movie (or show or project) that'll be somewhere down the line. This is smart marketing. Adult fans with toddlers will be able to share their love for the Muppets. (Cue the Circle of Life music) ;)
     
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  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    They have preschool toys based off some of their movies as well. Lion King included. And remember, that's essentially a political thriller with a lot of death and a dangerously insane villain. I don't see Disney making any of these franchises full blown Winnie the Pooh, specifically for preschoolers. And with the low box office turn out of the last Pooh movie, I think they learned their lesson about that.

    Not to mention that their preschool programming turned a very sharp corner away from "let's do what Dora was doing," especially with Sophia the First. I'd also count 7D as it was supposed to be a preschool series for Disney Junior... and then it wasn't, without changing the concept of the show at all. It still has earmarks of edutainment, especially problem solving and light engineering.

    I do not see Disney making a new Muppet TV show where they sit around asking questions to an unresponsive audience with a good 10 seconds of awkward silence before answering their own questions. Not with the Muppets, not with Muppet babies... we're completely safe.
     
  8. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    As long as this isn't a full-fledged Muppet preschool series using Kermit and the gang, and as long as it's solidly written with plenty of wit to it, and as long as it doesn't have the characters asking questions to kids loudly and slowly, then this won't be such a bad move.

    Hopefully, this will lead to bigger and better things for the Muppets in the future.
     
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  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Last time they tried to make Kermit into a preschool show, they just gave up and made a movie that most of the fanbase deplores.

    Preschool shows are fortunately passing by that Dora pseudo-interactive phase. It still exists, but not nearly as much. They even manage to sneak in some sly humor some of the time. Even Peppa Pig manages to make a joke that's clearly there for the adults to enjoy. I caught one where Daddy Pig says something inappropriate (but family friendly) about his brother, and Peppa manages to let that slip by in a puppet show in front of said brother and the rest of her family. I don't see many other preschool shows letting something like that slip in... you know... the old "parents say something nasty behind someone's back and the kid repeats it" trick. I almost fell out of my chair.
     
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  10. Mr Sweetums

    Mr Sweetums Active Member

    I really, really like the idea of a Muppet Interstitial series on other channels, not just because it means more Muppets but because it's a genius move. Muppets aimed at kids on Disney Junior, Muppets aimed at tweens on another channel , Muppets for teens, Muppets for adults etc... all on different channels. This is an easy way to target a specific age group, get them hooked on Muppets and then bring them all in together for another movie or even better a tv show. Then they must make sure the TV show is true to the Muppets and this time they have the challenge of keeping all their new fans (from different age groups) entertained with one movie or one show. That's the true way of The Muppets, entertaining everybody with the same production but first they have to find a way to get everybody to watch that production.

    :fanatic::cluck::)
     
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  11. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    If this is a branching point, then they should really air these shorts on the other Disney channels which would be really great.
     
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  12. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I'm late to the discussion, but to add my own .0000019 cent's worth...

    Is Disney having a series of interstitial shorts of the Muppets on Disney Junior a good thing? Who knows at this point? It's hard to tell.

    Is it good that Disney is looking for ways to utilize the Muppets and get more out of them? Absolutely! This is the most Disney has ever done with the Muppets since they purchased the franchise a decade ago! Between 2004 and 2011, Disney has shelved more Muppet projects and broken more promises than they did actually coming out with new things (which during that time only included MWoO and LTS).

    Is this what Jim would have wanted? Why not? Let's take a step back for a moment and look at Jim's career over the years: when he started the Muppets in 1955, he wasn't really serious about making a career for himself in puppetry, he just got into it as a way of getting into the television business, which is where he wanted to be. Did he want the Muppets to be main source of recognition? Not necessarily. Throughout the 60s, he tried various different projects to show he could do more than just puppets, including such experimental films as TIMEPIECE, YOUTH '68, and THE CUBE - all of which may have been personal successes for Jim, but they each pretty much had mixed reaction from the public at best. It really wasn't he finally accepted the fact that the Muppets are pretty much what he's known for that he began to emerse himself more into the art of puppetry and as a result, we got such treasures as TMS, TMM, GMC, MTM, DC, LABYRINTH, among other things. On that same token, did Jim want the Muppets to be regarded as kiddy fare? No, you're right, he didn't; already, puppets had a stigma of being kiddy entertainment, and he tried hard to prove to people that puppets aren't just for kids, and as such, he didn't want to be labeled as a children's entertainer - he even had a mild little fit with Joan Ganz Cooney at one point in the 70s, saying SST's success ruined his life, though he assured him the exposure he's gotten is exactly what he needs, and the profits from the merchandising would also help further fund his other projects that he wanted to get off the ground. Again, the way Jim finally came to terms with the Muppets being what he was mostly known for, he eventually accepted the fact that although he tried hard to prove puppets aren't just for kids, kids were one of his biggest audiences, and as such, he began to work on more and more projects that were aimed specifically at children, such as FR, MB, and as pointed out, those Play-Along videos.

    So, would Jim be upset with how Disney is utilizing the Muppets at this point? I'd say probably not; after all, his initial of selling the Muppets to Disney before he died was so that the Muppets would be with a company that would ensure they would be kept alive for generations to come, like Disney had already been doing with Mickey, Donald, Goofy, et al. after Walt's death.
     
  13. LouisTheOtter

    LouisTheOtter Well-Known Member

    I'm with you on that. And let's face it, The Muppets have the kind of street cred that Mickey, Donald, Goofy and company just don't have in the present day. That in itself should guarantee that Disney will get more use out of them.

    As for the idea of them being on Disney Junior as opposed to a major or more "adult" network - hey, as long as they're out there, that's the main thing. Don't forget that the Internet is the modern-day equivalent of sharing comic books with your grade-school friends; I expect these new bits to hit big on YouTube and wherever else Disney chooses to share them in addition to their TV broadcasts.

    Also: Bill Baretta. I can't explain why I trust him to oversee these things, but I do. Maybe it was his touch with the Toyota Highlander bits, or simply his two decades of work with both new and "classic" Muppet characters. I just think he gets it.
     
  14. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Yes, there is no way Bill Barretta would kidify the muppets, he is the one who performes Pepe, that along is convincing enough.
     
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  15. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    I too agree. I can't wait to see what these little *** bits are. Anything with Muppets love it.
     
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  16. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I'm not gonna read through all the posts but if it replaces that atrocious "Nina needs to go" I am all for it! Although picturing Piggy on Disney Junior is quite laughable.

    As a parent myself though I can't wait for my baby girl to actually see Kermit on TV! It's one thing to show her the movies but she's only 15 months old so for her to actually sit through a full length movie is a no go. But to just see the Muppets in a 10 min spot is wonderful IMO.

    Jim was all about wanting new generations to discover the Muppets and this is a great way to start. Disney is FINALLY taking a small risk and testing the swamp waters. I'm glad their proving me wrong because I was one of the people who thought we wouldn't see anything from them for quite a while let alone be back on tv after a disappointing set back at the box office from MMW. Let's try and reserve judgment! :)
     
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  17. WalterLinz

    WalterLinz Well-Known Member

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  18. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I'm excited to see the Muppets do something at this point. This should be fun, and won't have a bad effect on the franchise, if anyone out there is worried.
     
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  19. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    I'm intrigued by the article mentioning that Rowlf and Sam and the Newsman will be featured in this series. It's good to see that Disney is reaching into the bench for this little series. I'll reserve further judgement until the clips pop up online
     
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  20. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    It's just a shame that Animal is the only member of The Electric Mayhem to be included here.

    I wonder if all of these will be Muppet interactions with kids, or if any will just have the Muppets.
     
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