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charlietheowl

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I really want to get into a discussion about that. Porn is the MOST depressing thing on the planet. Deep down, it's made for lonely people who just can't find any way to get human contact one way or another (sometimes due to circumstances beyond their control and basically being unlikable for some reason). Take it from me. Stumbling upon anything that..uh... does it on the internet is incredibly easy. It's really invigorating at first, but then you get the empty feeling. The deep dark depressing emptiness of that person doesn't like you or knows that you exist and in real life they'd call the police and shoot you with pepper spray if you so much as had accidental eye contact with them. There are people in healthy relationships that use that stuff for certain purposes, but the main demographic is lonely people who will always be lonely.
I think that pornography can definitely exacerbate loneliness, because there's a certain amount of shame that comes from seeking it out. Even though now it can easily be found in private surroundings via the computer, it's still something that most people won't admit to looking at or thinking about.
 

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I think that pornography can definitely exacerbate loneliness, because there's a certain amount of shame that comes from seeking it out. Even though now it can easily be found in private surroundings via the computer, it's still something that most people won't admit to looking at or thinking about.
Here's the thing about internet porn... and it's frightening. You don't look for porn on the internet, the internet porn looks for YOU! Unless you have the safest of safe searches on (and if you do, you don't get any results on any search engine), it finds you. You have a deviant art account, you find things. Not necessarily through searches, but someone will favorite your work, you'll go to their page and see what else they like, and BLAMMO! Cartoon porn, celebrity photo manipulations (which can actually be pretty lulzy), and of course "tasteful photography." I find that I wound up lingering at things I wouldn't go looking for on purpose because it's... it's there. Someone that liked my stuff likes that stuff. And it either reviles you or strangely interests you in a "GAWD I hate myself" sort of way.

Not to mention the fact that the internet is where crazy ideas and fetishes come to mutate. There's a good sense of "you're not alone." Then you come to the OH CRAP! realization that "You're not alone!" There's at least the shame at bay when you have to wear a trench-coat and sneak into something to buy something with money (because a paper trail puts you on a list). But in the internet where anything gets to someone in a frightening way.... yeah, you're not alone, but it's not people you want to hang out with...ever...like, people you'd run away from in real life.

What I'm saying is, never look at someone else's DA account. Ever. Unless you know that person is clean. Or politically neutral for that matter.
 

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I will say, some of the DP porn I've accidentally found while searching tumblr is very disturbing...what's sad is most of it was surprisingly good artwork...

I learned my lesson very quickly...stick to the safe blog that makes gifs and don't be tryign to find more gifs...
 

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I once looked at Rule 34, purely out of curiosity, to see what all the hub-bub was.

As it turns out, a lot of the same stuff is/was already on dA any way.
 

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I do have to confess...I do have a slight fascination and repulsion (since it's probably not something a sane person should be liking) at the idea of swapping a character's gender...

I'm going to crawl back into my corner of shame now...
 

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There are some strange fetishes in the fan art world that I JUST don't understand... gender bending aside, there's also drawing characters under water, or inside bubbles, then of course there are the bondage buffs, drawing characters BEYOND morbid obesity, female characters with unnaturally huge baby bumps... oy...

The ironic thing is, half of the time, the explicit stuff doesn't bother people nearly as much as tasteful and genuinely artistic stuff does; seriously, three different times on dA, I've been on the receiving end of outcry over certain some things I've done, when there are FAR worse things out there on dA.
 

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The only other thing I'll add to the current conversation is that Jaz DOES have a slight point and there IS a connection as far as fan artists go; it's gotten to a point where a number of fan artists do more and more porno stuff that it's becoming rare for some to NOT do some thing nudie any more; there was an artist on dA whom I used to watch for a few years, his work was fantastic, his recreation of the different styles of different cartoons was so spot-on, you'd think he actually worked on these cartoons. He did do a few more mature pics occasionally, but they were usually pretty tasteful... now, all he does is practically nothing but nudies... and they're hardly tasteful, they're just downright dirty, I can't remember the last time he submitted some thing that WASN'T a cartoon female in the buffski... I even asked him what the deal was, why he made such a transition, and then he got all defensive saying that he was just trying to be "a little daring". So, I GUESS that's the current trend in fan art... trying to be "a little daring"... whatevs...
 
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