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Rare "Cracks" animation from 1970's Sesame Street

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by dycaite, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I had no idea the program guides actually separated 15-minute parts of the show and referred to the minutes. I also didn't realize they listed the minutes of individual segments. I'd expect that on a private CTW document (one not meant to be released to the public) but not a program guide sent to parents.

    I knew that the guides varried from listing many segments ro just listing a few and, I think in some cases, just listing one segment.
  2. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Regarding them not being allowed to release this, I wonder if it's just to fans or commercially altogether. Maybe the animator is one of those who is hard to negotiate with (do we know what other animated inserts he's done for the show?). I don't know what the deal was with that one fan who managed to purchase five clips from the company, it's possible the person who arranged it no longer works there and maybe went against policy. I know many companies have policies of not selling individual copies of their episodes.

    I don't know if Sesame Workshop keeps master tapes of segments separately from the master copies of episodes they were in, but I wonder, if they do, if maybe certain segments are no longer in their archives/vaults/whatever, outside of the episodes they were part of. For example, the Buddy and Jim/Larry and Phyllis/Wally and Ralph segments we have are from episodes that have been available to see in the past decade, none of which were put on compilations, bonus clips, or sesamestreet.org. But then again, 40 Years of Sunny Days and sesamestreet.org do have clips of street scenes, so if there are clips that Sesame Workshop only has as part of master copies of full episodes they could pull them from those episodes.
  3. dycaite

    dycaite Active Member

    Crack Master was the only short he ever did for Sesame Street.
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Something tells me there's a reason for that, and maybe that's a reason why this segment is lost. Wouldn't it be just awful if they released this episode on some platform, and that segment wasn't on it for that reason?
  5. dycaite

    dycaite Active Member

    I just received a reply back from Cosmo Anzilotti, you can read the whole thing at lostmedia.wikia.com

    tl;dr: Cosmo Anzilotti is not the creator of Crack Master, nor did he work on it (at least not to his recollection)... An interesting development indeed.
  6. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member

    I have heard about this short before... Was it really so scary that it had been locked up after it aired?:o
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I can't believe that was so scary it had to be completely recalled when they managed to put this on a few times.

    Or this...

  8. dycaite

    dycaite Active Member

    I am now seeking more info on the short, such as its *real* creator; anyone who can provide me with such info (to lostmediawiki@gmail.com) will go into a draw to win my sealed VHS "The Rescuers" (the rare re-called one with nudity). Thanks to anyone who can help.
  9. muppet maniac

    muppet maniac Well-Known Member

    Remember when Sesame Workshop put up a social media campaign trying to find the actor who played Gordon in the Sesame Street test shows a few years ago? Maybe we can convince them to do the same thing with this.
  10. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    It's interesting what stuff Sesame Workshop took off the show years ago and, in recent years, has released to the public again, whether in Noggin reruns, iTunes episodes, sesamestreet.org, or DVD releases. Though in the case of full episode releases, it seems like Sesame Workshop has only removed segments because of certain legalities (like music writes or animators they'd have to pay, though there are some things removed that are a mystery).

    They've taken off the Baker films, Roosevelt Franklin, and Don Music for specific reasons, but have released those segments in recent years, whether in Noggin reruns (though I hear Don Music wasn't in any Sesame Street Unpaved episodes), video releases, or sesamestreet.org. Actually all of those have been released as part of all those media formats in recent years. But then there's the long-unaired I Want a Monster to Be My Friend, which Sesame Workshop hasn't made available in years (wait a minute, I think it might be downloadable as part of the iTunes releases of Monsters! and Born to Add).

    I wouldn't be surprised if Crack Master was in any of the episodes chosen for Noggin to air and got cut, but we have no way of knowing. Noggin did cut a number of inserts that don't appear in other episodes on the channel, including scenes related to the street plot and at least two segments with the adults riding bikes on location. Those segments are great and seem harmless, and I've wondered why those were cut, but last night it suddenly hit me that maybe Noggin cut them because the adults didn't wear helmets.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    They seem to really hate "You can clean almost anything" as even in the iTunes version of an episode that had it replaces it.

    Something tells me that if the episode with Crack Master were to pop up, they just might have altered it.
  12. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    They most likely have been cut for time, since these were shows that previously aired on a commercial-free network.
  13. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    There's that as well, but since segments were repeated in multiple episodes, it'd make more sense to cut segments that show up in other episodes that the channel was airing. And if there's a need to edit something for content, then that helps in choosing what to cut.
  14. wiley207

    wiley207 Well-Known Member

    I am also wondering if maybe this segment was on the infamous "Wicked Witch of the West" episode from 1976? The segment probably did exist back then, and it could have been added to compliment the fear curriculum.
  15. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I have wondered that recently. Though I looked back at the program guide page that was shown in this thread and the educational lesson mentioned for Crack Master was "Divisive Thinking" (whatever that means) as opposed to fear.
  16. muppet maniac

    muppet maniac Well-Known Member

    I will say that while listening to the episode of the DJ Food podcast from 2004 (where I found the English audio for "Spinning Wheel"), there was one track that I initially suspected to be the Crack Master skit, based on the haunting background music and a woman's voice bellowing out "Giraffe". Turned out it was actually from a film showing footage of a giraffe (this sketch I'm not sure has been uploaded on to Youtube yet). I looked at the description for Crack Master again on the Lost Media Wiki and there was no mention of a giraffe in it. Sigh, and I was about to get all excited.

    That said, the real question is where is Jon Armond these days? He has the clip, he's had it for four years now, and there's no word on how his "documentary" is going. I sent him an email twice, and no reply. Does he even remember who it was that gave him the clip?
    I find it very odd that the person at Sesame Workshop wouldn't elaborate on why they can't release it.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    At this point, it's obvious he's lying. Contractually obligated not to show it? Fishy. He probably never had it. Someone who had the documentary they would have got from him via e-mail would have leaked it on Youtube, no matter how much of a promise they'd make. So therefore, he never actually gave it to anyone.
  18. Mr Snrub

    Mr Snrub Well-Known Member

    Then how do you explain http://tailotherat.blogspot.com/search/label/The Crack Monster ?
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    If he isn't lying, he's got a crapload of walls around him from releasing that video on some format. It's exceedingly suspicious that he can't release it to any format. Somehow it sounds like he hasn't given anyone the documentary soundtrack via e-mail (someone else would mention what it sounds like or would have posted it on youtube against his wishes)... and I don't see why he's also expressly forbidden to so much as give some screen caps.

    If he isn't lying, he's really giving everyone a run around. Maybe we have to find out who he signed that alleged contract with and send him the petition.
  20. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I have to say that blog did come across really hard to believe.

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